Why is my easy pace so slow relative to my mile race pace?

Trying to take daily training advice by committee is a horrible idea. I personally think you need to get at least 25k steps in every day running or walking. Preferably closer to 30k just to build your leg strength/bone density/base because you are likely way more sedentary than we imagine.

david45 wrote:

ezvo2training wrote:

This is pretty close.

According to David Martin, a 1600m race is about 111% of VO2. Martin also suggests easy runs from 70-75% of VO2. That means, an easy run of 70% VO2 is 1.59 times your mile pace. You can check out my training paces at ezvo2training.com. If you have an Android device, you can download the app. My app puts you with an easy pace of 10:14-10:58.

Lastly, I would not consider 50 minutes to be an easy run for your current race performance. An easy run for you should be around 30 minutes. You should be able to run the 10:14-10:58 pace more comfortably for 30 minutes then 50 minutes.

Does anyone agree with this suggestion?

Is it easy for you to run for 50 minutes?

Ahead of the Curve wrote:

Trying to take daily training advice by committee is a horrible idea. I personally think you need to get at least 25k steps in every day running or walking. Preferably closer to 30k just to build your leg strength/bone density/base because you are likely way more sedentary than we imagine.

So how long should I be running each day?

elvid32 wrote:

david45 wrote:

Does anyone agree with this suggestion?

Is it easy for you to run for 50 minutes?

At a slow pace, yes.

David45 you should be aiming to run 90 minutes per day, in my opinion. Don't do a slow build up, that tends to get people injured quicker than just jumping into it. Report back on how it goes.

david45 wrote:

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Does anyone agree with this suggestion?

Get a book and read. Do some research and figure it out. Trying to wing your training off a form is going to get you hurt.

David 45 Is Delusional wrote:

david45 wrote:

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Does anyone agree with this suggestion?

Get a book and read. Do some research and figure it out. Trying to wing your training off a form is going to get you hurt.

Why can't people just give me advice that I follow?

david45 wrote:

David 45 Is Delusional wrote:

Get a book and read. Do some research and figure it out. Trying to wing your training off a form is going to get you hurt.

Why can't people just give me advice that I follow?

I just offered a piece of advice that got me to running 25:27 for 8k in just a few months. You'll be sore for a bit, but will be fit as heck in a short few months.

Swerving wrote:

David45 you should be aiming to run 90 minutes per day, in my opinion. Don't do a slow build up, that tends to get people injured quicker than just jumping into it. Report back on how it goes.

People in r/running think you are stupid

david45 wrote:

Swerving wrote:

David45 you should be aiming to run 90 minutes per day, in my opinion. Don't do a slow build up, that tends to get people injured quicker than just jumping into it. Report back on how it goes.

People in r/running think you are stupid

People on Letsrun think you are stupid. Did you just consult r/running with my advice? That must have been a quick response.

Have you ever tried something like what I'm suggesting? It works.

david45 wrote:

David 45 Is Delusional wrote:

Get a book and read. Do some research and figure it out. Trying to wing your training off a form is going to get you hurt.

Why can't people just give me advice that I follow?

Because you argue with or ignore said advice.

Also:

Coaches get paid for a reason.

Mixing strategies will get you hurt.

There's more than one way to get fit.

You are pedantic and whiney.

You're not coachable.

David 45 Is Delusional wrote:

david45 wrote:

Why can't people just give me advice that I follow?

Because you argue with or ignore said advice.

Also:

Coaches get paid for a reason.

Mixing strategies will get you hurt.

There's more than one way to get fit.

You are pedantic and whiney.

You're not coachable.

I am not coachable, yet I am hear asking for advice?

david45 wrote:

David 45 Is Delusional wrote:

Because you argue with or ignore said advice.

Also:

Coaches get paid for a reason.

Mixing strategies will get you hurt.

There's more than one way to get fit.

You are pedantic and whiney.

You're not coachable.

I am not coachable, yet I am hear asking for advice?

You are asking for advice that you then ignore or don't follow. That is uncoachable.

I am offering you good, free advice that will lead to a fast rate of improvement.

Also, here*

Why has this nobhead not been banned yet?

I am tired of his silly topics clogging up this (once decent) forum. He is either a troll or a genuine special case.

Swerving wrote:

david45 wrote:

I am not coachable, yet I am hear asking for advice?

You are asking for advice that you then ignore or don't follow. That is uncoachable.

I am offering you good, free advice that will lead to a fast rate of improvement.

Also, here*

Is doing too much, too soon a foreign concept for you?

david45 wrote:

Is doing too much, too soon a foreign concept for you?

Is being an insufferable imbecile a foreign concept for you?

No wonder no one wants to put up with you and you probably got cut for being annoying rather than slow

David 45 Is Delusional wrote:

david45 wrote:

Is doing too much, too soon a foreign concept for you?

Is being an insufferable imbecile a foreign concept for you?

No wonder no one wants to put up with you and you probably got cut for being annoying rather than slow

Then what is the point of the statement of "too much, too soon"?

The point went right over your head.

Great reading comprehension David, Great reading comprehension.

Your reading comp and general understanding of athletics is why we're done dealing with your antics. Go find a real coach and a real run club. Go visit your local run store.

david45 wrote:

Swerving wrote:

David45 you should be aiming to run 90 minutes per day, in my opinion. Don't do a slow build up, that tends to get people injured quicker than just jumping into it. Report back on how it goes.

People in r/running think you are stupid

What this guy suggests isn't bad advice. At some point, you're going to have to jump in or admit you're just running for general fitness to yourself. Maybe you don't need to do 90 minutes yet, but you should get out and explore, see how far you can go and what you can find.

r/running is filled with terrible advice for actually getting fast. Finishing a marathon, sure, they'll get someone there. Actually competing, not so much. r/running is so bad redditors had to make r/advancedrunning, where you'll find advice about on par with letsrun

I actually think you need to chill on the messageboard use. At this point, its time to train for a while and gain some experience, so you'll have questions and topics that will help you to improve. How do I know this? On no site, would anyone have suggested you train solely in your yard for months on end.

Run, have fun - explore, see how far you can go. Develop some routes and see how fast you can run them. Run on roads, trail, and hard packed sand on the beach if you want, not in your yard. Do time trials of 800, 1 mile, 3000, or 5000 every few weeks, varying the distance from time to time, thats all the advice you need. You're not ready for a more intricate training plan just yet.