Miracle 2:30 Marathon Training Plan

The 7aji wrote:

peekay wrote:

You want a miracle training plan that is low mileage?

There is only 1 coach for you

No, no, and no. I'm not gonna fall the coach js bullshit

Well......you think it`s BS I have coached a 2:07, 2:08, 2:09 and 2:10 (2) marathons? That I just

in 2 months( ! ) coaching got an age 43 guy to better his master PB from 16:30 to 15:37 at 5000m? I can keep on with the list of great coaching for quite long .......

Well......without me you will not even come close to 2:30-2:34 on 60-65 mpw if you now only can run a half in 1:21 . As I told even me will have problems to get you to run 2:30 -2:34 in CIM in December, but you would have get the best low mileage coaching and fix the goal next year instead. Anyway good luck! :)

How about split the difference and update biweekly? Any reason you don’t want to post weekly? It wouldn’t take too much time, maybe 5 minutes tops.

Up to you of course.

The 7aji wrote:

I enjoyed that read. I did read a lot about kellogg's training philosophy. I still find it useful. But ultimately when it comes to training philosophy I enjoy Hadd and Canova. Even though both are complete opposites in training I believe there is a happy medium and in terms of my long term running career I would like to build training philosophies based mainly on those 2.

Obviously that isn't the case with my current 6 month crusade-like mission.

For canova style training i'd need to finish building my "aerobic house".

For Hadd i'd need to be confident enough and risk-taking enough to commit to his philosophy because out of all the famous coaches his path is the longest and riskiest but i have no doubt it will be worthwhile. RIP Hadd

I really believe you have made a troll post! )) You seem to know more about training than you first hinted ))You don`t have to ask for training advice. This is just a fake set up post. You revealed yourself! LoL ))

Rhodium Nights wrote:

How about split the difference and update biweekly? Any reason you don’t want to post weekly? It wouldn’t take too much time, maybe 5 minutes tops.

Up to you of course.

I'm worried i'd forget is all. I'll have work on one end, strength training, cross-training, and other stuff. Plus i don't know what i'd say every 2 weeks lol. 4 weeks is long enough to have adaptations kick in or a decent training phase would have finished etc.

If i have something worthwhile to say i'll make sure to mention it

Rhodium Nights wrote:

How about split the difference and update biweekly? Any reason you don’t want to post weekly? It wouldn’t take too much time, maybe 5 minutes tops.

Up to you of course.

Rhodium Nights......I think you as me by now know the OP is a troll? )) He won`t reveal his name

to check the training "done", hehe!

The 7aji wrote:

Rhodium Nights wrote:

How about split the difference and update biweekly? Any reason you don’t want to post weekly? It wouldn’t take too much time, maybe 5 minutes tops.

Up to you of course.

I'm worried i'd forget is all. I'll have work on one end, strength training, cross-training, and other stuff. Plus i don't know what i'd say every 2 weeks lol. 4 weeks is long enough to have adaptations kick in or a decent training phase would have finished etc.

If i have something worthwhile to say i'll make sure to mention it

Good luck in your fantasy world, LoL ))

Well it is a pretty challenging goal. That doesn’t mean it’s impossible. It doesn’t hurt to give it your best. I would say you’d need to amp your mileage up a bit though. You can do it with hard work. One runner once said No human is limited. If your a human than you’ve got nothing to worry about. If anyone disagrees with that they can also disagree with Apollo Kipchoge the first human to break the two hour marathon. A goal that thought does take some tougher training.

That tough*

highhoppingworm wrote:

I too am new to running. 11 months into it. Similar to you I started off at a 1:30 in a HM 4 months in, then ran 1:23 6 months in, blew up and ran 3:14 in a marathon in February and then ran a 1:16:40 HM a few weeks ago. I too would like to run a quick marathon in December. Heck, maybe even at CIM. We actually have a pretty similar background.

The idea that I would aim to run 2:30-2:35 in December is patently ludicrous. What Is my goal? To improve over the next two training cycles by running consistently higher mileage with higher variability between my quality days and easy days. Maybe I’ll set a target 4-8 weeks out based on how training is going. Why wouldn’t you take a similar approach?

Your realistic goal will be sub 2:40 with a half at 1:16:40 ( probably a chance to run 2: 38:30 )

I think you mean "Neil Kipchoge" haha!

Apollo was the spacecraft, not the man.

I look forward to seeing what OP will do but I am disappointed that he won't post his weekly training. Updating once a month is extremely infrequent.

If we get weekly updates we'll have a much better idea of how OP is doing in his training.

+1 I said that earlier but I think nobody noticed lol

The 7aji wrote:

Rhodium Nights wrote:

How about split the difference and update biweekly? Any reason you don’t want to post weekly? It wouldn’t take too much time, maybe 5 minutes tops.

Up to you of course.

I'm worried i'd forget is all. I'll have work on one end, strength training, cross-training, and other stuff. Plus i don't know what i'd say every 2 weeks lol. 4 weeks is long enough to have adaptations kick in or a decent training phase would have finished etc.

If i have something worthwhile to say i'll make sure to mention it

Aren't you more likely to forget if you post less often?

It would literally take 3 minutes to write what you did for 7 days in one week. You just write M: 8 miles easy, Tues: 12 miles easy, ... and so on for the rest of the week.

Then people can comment and see how you're doing, and you can respond throughout the week or just wait until the following week where you do the same thing.

There have been countless threads on LRC like this and it creates a great community with constant feedback and good positive energy.

Just something to think about. And this manner of posting can be a great form of accountability for you.

Chasonmesinar wrote:

Well it is a pretty challenging goal. That doesn’t mean it’s impossible. It doesn’t hurt to give it your best. I would say you’d need to amp your mileage up a bit though. You can do it with hard work. One runner once said No human is limited. If your a human than you’ve got nothing to worry about. If anyone disagrees with that they can also disagree with Apollo Kipchoge the first human to break the two hour marathon. A goal that thought does take some tougher training.

Aha!So now the OP changed pseudo, hehe!

I can just tell you that breaking the 2 hours without pacemakers jumping in and out will not

take some tougher training , only a super talented runner.

So, you haven`t figure out yet that this is a troll post? He will never write anything of his training in future ( and prove it`s done)because it doesn`t exist, hahaha!

Oh no, that wasn't what i was considering. If i were to update i wouldn't be posting my log because that'll more or less stay the same throughout the months, i'm not building mileage.

What i'm considering doing is talking about how i feel with the training, if i set any accidental PRs in training, changed training location, easy pace decreasing (or increasing during the summer). More like blog updates.

Would it be possible for me to get your strava if you have one? It would be nice to see what you're doing since I'm also training for my first marathon at CIM in December.

Only difference is I just restarted running in February (started at like 10 miles per week) and finally about to hit 50 this upcoming week with legs feeling great. I took a 2.45 year break from running so decided I'm going to shoot for a 2:45 in December and seeing your post is very exciting because it makes my time seem challenging but achievable. I'm 23 turning 24 this year so similar age too I guess.

My PRs were the following before my long break. I was a miler in general so I've only ran most of the other distances only once.

Mile 4:23

3k 8:57

5k 15:51

8k (xc) 26:25

To all the other people responding, do you guys think a 2:45 is achievable? I'm thinking of hitting 80 peak this summer and I seem to be settling at 7:30s for very easy pace.

Rhodium Nights wrote:

I think you mean "Neil Kipchoge" haha!

Apollo was the spacecraft, not the man.

I look forward to seeing what OP will do but I am disappointed that he won't post his weekly training. Updating once a month is extremely infrequent.

If we get weekly updates we'll have a much better idea of how OP is doing in his training.

Hahaha! A good one ! A laugh is a good one , thanks!

The 7aji wrote:

Oh no, that wasn't what i was considering. If i were to update i wouldn't be posting my log because that'll more or less stay the same throughout the months, i'm not building mileage.

What i'm considering doing is talking about how i feel with the training, if i set any accidental PRs in training, changed training location, easy pace decreasing (or increasing during the summer). More like blog updates.

No one will believe you. Except dumbheads.haha!

Good luck with your goal and i hope you do achieve your goal. I do have a strava but i would like to stay anonymous. If you're still active on this thread regularly by late november i might find a way of exchanging info and meeting you before CIM if you would like but until then i'd like to keep everything here. The times you posted are for distances i have never raced before so i can't give any advice. All i'll say is you have heck of a lot of raw speed and i'm sure you have a bright running career ahead of you over the next few decades :)