lmao. I was a progamer. There were stretches of my career when my practice was completely private - scrimmages among teammates that had no public-facing record. But the majority of it I was streaming on Twitch, or most of my opponents were streaming on Twitch, or I didn't have people to practice with privately, so I'd resort to "ranked matchmaking" that was all publicly viewable. Of course, it was common practice to make new accounts to hide our identities, but it was generally easy to figure out who is who.
Anyway, early on in my career, when there were no expectations, I had periods of really productive practice (even if it was on a public matchmaking). At some point practice became really stressful and unproductive and I wasn't ever able to solve it. I still made a career out of it, but like I said I underachieved and it was unfulfilling. I'm pretty sure if practice had always been 100% private I would've benefited a lot. I loved competing with people watching but I couldn't ever get my mind right for practicing with people watching. Other people are utterly unfazed by thousands of people watching them practice.
Even though I could logically identify the issues and the mindset adjustments I needed to make, I was never able to truly implement them. And I see the same thing with these runners. They say the right things and they're trying but real change isn't happening.
I found it hilarious when I learned the phenomenon of caring about the workouts you upload to Strava. I couldn't believe it was real because I don't care at all and it's ridiculous to judge training like that. But I guess it's the same thing I suffered from - feeling like every session was a performance that people were judging, even though it's just training/practice.
Regardless of all of the trolling on the Floberg videos on here I stumbled upon his Strava account the other day and found something I believed to be more alarming.
He posted a double that had apparently started very late because of father duties, someone posed the question on his doubles does he shower twice a day or what? He said sometimes he does, sometimes he doesn't but he just goes to bed because the sweat is all dried up and his wife doesn't mind if he smells bad. This has got to be one of the grossest things I can think of, unless is wife is just washing the sheets every time?!?
Such a great new video by Floberg but gutted it’s only 12 minutes long. Spend all week so excited for a new Flo drop so for it to be over so quick is a shame.
In spite of that, it was absolutely brilliant though. He has such an amazing life and his friends and family all seem so cool too. As the saying goes the ladies all want to be with him, the guys all want to be him.
He is doing so much for the sport. Running finally coming to a main stream audience and it’s down to five men and three woman in my opinion. The wonderful Eric Floberg, Nicholas Bester, Benjamin Felton, Jacob Ingerbritson, Kipchoge, Sifan Hassan, Keeley Hodgkinson and Phillipa Bowden. Shout out to Welsh Runner and Kelloggs on the run too who arguably deserve to be in that list too
Such a great new video by Floberg but gutted it’s only 12 minutes long. Spend all week so excited for a new Flo drop so for it to be over so quick is a shame.
In spite of that, it was absolutely brilliant though. He has such an amazing life and his friends and family all seem so cool too. As the saying goes the ladies all want to be with him, the guys all want to be him.
He is doing so much for the sport. Running finally coming to a main stream audience and it’s down to five men and three woman in my opinion. The wonderful Eric Floberg, Nicholas Bester, Benjamin Felton, Jacob Ingerbritson, Kipchoge, Sifan Hassan, Keeley Hodgkinson and Phillipa Bowden. Shout out to Welsh Runner and Kelloggs on the run too who arguably deserve to be in that list too
I am appalled you missed the great Mr Chris Ford from your list.
Where would this sport be without his patented "goal pace" and "walking it in" with the lads
Such a great new video by Floberg but gutted it’s only 12 minutes long. Spend all week so excited for a new Flo drop so for it to be over so quick is a shame.
In spite of that, it was absolutely brilliant though. He has such an amazing life and his friends and family all seem so cool too. As the saying goes the ladies all want to be with him, the guys all want to be him.
He is doing so much for the sport. Running finally coming to a main stream audience and it’s down to five men and three woman in my opinion. The wonderful Eric Floberg, Nicholas Bester, Benjamin Felton, Jacob Ingerbritson, Kipchoge, Sifan Hassan, Keeley Hodgkinson and Phillipa Bowden. Shout out to Welsh Runner and Kelloggs on the run too who arguably deserve to be in that list too
Such a great new video by Floberg but gutted it’s only 12 minutes long. Spend all week so excited for a new Flo drop so for it to be over so quick is a shame.
In spite of that, it was absolutely brilliant though. He has such an amazing life and his friends and family all seem so cool too. As the saying goes the ladies all want to be with him, the guys all want to be him.
He is doing so much for the sport. Running finally coming to a main stream audience and it’s down to five men and three woman in my opinion. The wonderful Eric Floberg, Nicholas Bester, Benjamin Felton, Jacob Ingerbritson, Kipchoge, Sifan Hassan, Keeley Hodgkinson and Phillipa Bowden. Shout out to Welsh Runner and Kelloggs on the run too who arguably deserve to be in that list too
It's funny he's now sponsored by Bandit. They've been getting trashed here in NYC for their egregious run club behavior. Very runfluencer.
I can’t tell what’s more cringe, the video or the top comment:
Holy smokes, Eric, you look like you're ABSOLUTELY FLOATING! This seems like one of those runs where you can't figure out whether you want to smile, laugh, cry, or shout because it is so good and you are engulfed in the moment and present the whole time.
Like… what? No one talks this way. What are these people smoking, and where do I get some?
Such a great new video by Floberg but gutted it’s only 12 minutes long. Spend all week so excited for a new Flo drop so for it to be over so quick is a shame.
In spite of that, it was absolutely brilliant though. He has such an amazing life and his friends and family all seem so cool too. As the saying goes the ladies all want to be with him, the guys all want to be him.
He is doing so much for the sport. Running finally coming to a main stream audience and it’s down to five men and three woman in my opinion. The wonderful Eric Floberg, Nicholas Bester, Benjamin Felton, Jacob Ingerbritson, Kipchoge, Sifan Hassan, Keeley Hodgkinson and Phillipa Bowden. Shout out to Welsh Runner and Kelloggs on the run too who arguably deserve to be in that list too
I can’t tell what’s more cringe, the video or the top comment:
Holy smokes, Eric, you look like you're ABSOLUTELY FLOATING! This seems like one of those runs where you can't figure out whether you want to smile, laugh, cry, or shout because it is so good and you are engulfed in the moment and present the whole time.
Like… what? No one talks this way. What are these people smoking, and where do I get some?
Look at the profiles of the people who comment on his Strava. All young kids running 30k a week and lifting, hoping this is enough for a sub 3
Nick Bester is currently complaining he came second to someone racing in the Prime X Strung 3 due to it being illegal in WA races while not running a race using those rules.
it also weighs 100g more and the race was a 10K. Maybe it wasn’t the shoes.
Wouldn’t it be better to have a mini taper for the Hidden Gem Half instead of trying to maintain 90 miles per week? Of course he will be going full send for it.
Such a great new video by Floberg but gutted it’s only 12 minutes long. Spend all week so excited for a new Flo drop so for it to be over so quick is a shame.
In spite of that, it was absolutely brilliant though. He has such an amazing life and his friends and family all seem so cool too. As the saying goes the ladies all want to be with him, the guys all want to be him.
He is doing so much for the sport. Running finally coming to a main stream audience and it’s down to five men and three woman in my opinion. The wonderful Eric Floberg, Nicholas Bester, Benjamin Felton, Jacob Ingerbritson, Kipchoge, Sifan Hassan, Keeley Hodgkinson and Phillipa Bowden. Shout out to Welsh Runner and Kelloggs on the run too who arguably deserve to be in that list too
I didnt know "Kelloggs"
So checked out their YT. There's a video of her proudly breaking 24mins for the 5k. I get everyone is at different speeds. But come on that's not at all interesting or worth a video!
In other news Kofuzi been deleting comments he doesn't like again.
In this case, didn't like being told "selfie sticks have NO place in a marathon and should be banned"
If he just literally carried the camera in his hand it would be fine! But "hes special" much like that other fool Choi who decided marathons are HIS domain and everyone else needs to just work around him!
Regardless of all of the trolling on the Floberg videos on here I stumbled upon his Strava account the other day and found something I believed to be more alarming.
He posted a double that had apparently started very late because of father duties, someone posed the question on his doubles does he shower twice a day or what? He said sometimes he does, sometimes he doesn't but he just goes to bed because the sweat is all dried up and his wife doesn't mind if he smells bad. This has got to be one of the grossest things I can think of, unless is wife is just washing the sheets every time?!?
Just when you thought the guy could not get any more insufferable.
As much as it pains me I think broberg will run well at Chicago. Overcooking workouts isn’t new for him, and doesn’t seem to impact him too much. He’s running way more mileage than before and seems to be keeping it to a sensible pace.
Got a Tim Grose video on my recommended feed yesterday. As I know he frequents these boards, I have a piece of unsolicited advice that may nevertheless be useful:
The video was called 'my fastest 5k for years' and the graphic showed the Brooms were running. I was expecting some race footage and to follow along- would you beat the Brooms? What time would you run? What was the course like? However, much to my dismay the video started with one of those 'spoiler montages' that show the whole content of the video in a series of short clips before it's actually happened (this editing style reminds me of 2012-era Channel 4; Kitchen Nightmares etc. used to do it all the time, made watching the show pointless because you'd already been shown all the highlights).
Within 33 seconds you had already confirmed that you had beaten the Brooms and run 18:38, before the race footage even started. So I stopped watching. Why would I need to continue? You can check your youtube analytics to see if a lot of other viewers also stopped watching after 33 seconds and that might inform your editing process in future; it might just be me that has an issue. Not having a go- I'm sure the video was good but I'm just explaining what led one 'recommended viewer' to stop on this occasion.
Thanks for the feedback. As it turned out there wasn't much of a race with John this time as fortunately for me I got ahead straight away and was almost a minute ahead by the end. It would be nice to think that a lot of viewers won't already have a clue what time I did and care enough to sit through a long video to find out but the reality I tend to find is that it isn't really the case. You soon learn with YouTube that whatever you do most won't get past half way and a lot will click off very quickly. So I figured in this style of video I would more relate what I was thinking as the race went along as otherwise POV footage is next to useless as you see everybody bar yourself and anyway in this I was very much a mid packer. In fact in my long "career" as a runner I can't remember any time I finished in the bottom half of a large road race yet still was doing what I thought for me was a decent time. You seem to imply that the only reason to watch my video was to find out my time and whether I beat John? In that sense my summary intro kind of worked as I told you this without 5 mins of coffee drinking at home, 5 mins footage of the drive there and 5 mins warming up as often seems to happen in some race vlogs. My average view time for this video was just under 10 mins with 3K views. For me that is actually quite good. If I made a 10 min vid of the race, I would probably would get about the same views but more like 5 mins watch time. But yeah I am a bit of a midpacker at YouTube so maybe another time I try and keep you all waiting and see if it does "better"...
I agree. His easy runs are mostly very slow, especially factoring in the near 0 elevation gain (the advantage of having lots of time to run). My two concerns are he only seems to do 1 session (most coaches would have him doing 2) and a hard long run each week, instead he does big long workouts (which make him vomit and poo himself), and his constant captions citing fatigue when 'only' running 90 miles, with most of it easy. Still, he has made progress previously training like this so I suspect he can shave off those 2 minutes or so he needs to. For me, anything less than 2:30 would be a fail mark and should lead him to try a new training approach.
As much as it pains me I think broberg will run well at Chicago. Overcooking workouts isn’t new for him, and doesn’t seem to impact him too much. He’s running way more mileage than before and seems to be keeping it to a sensible pace.
Whatever happens, it’ll be (moderately) interesting. If 90mpw gets him sub 2:30, it’s definitely going to send him on a journey of ever higher weekly volume in search of sub elite status. If he fails again, there’s going to be some serious self reflection.
i think he could get 2:30, especially if the weather stays nice and mild. I will say, people (including Floberg, I think) underestimate how hard it is just to maintain a PR when you’re on the very thin edge of your training and capability. Just because you’ve run a 2:34 before doesn’t mean you’re guaranteed to do it again - each marathon is a mental and physical battle, and the closer you are to your limits (and I suspect Floberg is pretty close) the tougher it is to mentally get yourself to the point where you want to suffer for 2 and a half hours.
that’s where I’ll actually give Floberg some credit vs some other YouTubers (cough, Kofuzi) who hit a goal one time and then just give up mentally. Floberg’s out there giving it his all, sweaty sheets be damned.
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