I heard him on a podcast and he said he originally was going to call the series Two Four Seven (as in 24/7 or 2:47) because he erroneously thought that 2:47 was the difference between his PR and a 2:29:59. However, he later realized although his gun time was 2:32:46, the Chip Time was 2:32:44 and the difference was only 2:45. So he shifted to “No Time”.
Nah, 2:47 is his grandma's time......... still thinking 2:36-37 for Chicago
He seems to be building up a huge base with this high mileage, long slow running so who knows if he has actually a chance of a PR
Mica Wood (better half of Adam Wood) says she is starting a marathon build for a debut in December.
Interestingly, I think she finished 2 minutes ahead of Phily at Falmouth, but of course has been focusing on the shorter distances and said was peaking at this time.
So what shoes are you considering and for what purpose? If you have only been running in Pegs for the last few versions and not liking them that's about 3 years of not enjoying your running.
I have a question about this repeating theme "runtubers overdoing workouts/burning out"
How is this physically possible? Maybe I'm not that talented to even being able to overdo a workout, but I've never been so ruined that my fitness actually go back significantly or to get injured. In my experience you have to ignore all of the signs your body tells your mind and push and push to get to this point. It's not that difficult to back off from mileage/intensity. For me it's the other way around, I have to push myself to do the right intensity because I have tendency to undercook the workouts.
I have a question about this repeating theme "runtubers overdoing workouts/burning out"
How is this physically possible? Maybe I'm not that talented to even being able to overdo a workout, but I've never been so ruined that my fitness actually go back significantly or to get injured. In my experience you have to ignore all of the signs your body tells your mind and push and push to get to this point. It's not that difficult to back off from mileage/intensity. For me it's the other way around, I have to push myself to do the right intensity because I have tendency to undercook the workouts.
People confuse general fatigue with overtraining. You will probably be tired, especially during a marathon block, but other factors such as getting ill more than usual, struggling to sleep, increased HR, unbalanced HRV etc are warning signs of a deeper problem. If your "career" on YouTube demands you make content then can you stop running? If your narcissist ways mean you think "no pain, no gain" then you also keep running. Lack of knowledge, stubbornness, narcissism and a desire to keeping yourself relevant all play a part for these people. Running a "big workout" at paces that create comments such as "wow, man, I dream of running 1 mile in 5 mins and you're knocking our 4 of them" by a young, very influential lad who is obsessed with tri or hybrid athletes is also better content than "I was tired and overreaching so I took a day off" Read or watch anything from Canova's training and if the workout is too tough he pulls people out. It may be 5 x 1200 at 3:00 per KM, but if you're struggling he'll happily drop you to 800s - He also allows 3 or 4 days between workouts and if the day of your long run you're not 100% then it is moved. Youtubers just arent that bright. That's why they do this and dont have proper jobs. They just dont have the time or inclination to actually understand the sport
What kind of a video would it be if somebody decided to back off their training as they were scared of getting injured :) If you want to find out how to PB of 2 easy runs a week, probably the average RW article will do you.
I have a question about this repeating theme "runtubers overdoing workouts/burning out"
How is this physically possible? Maybe I'm not that talented to even being able to overdo a workout, but I've never been so ruined that my fitness actually go back significantly or to get injured. In my experience you have to ignore all of the signs your body tells your mind and push and push to get to this point. It's not that difficult to back off from mileage/intensity. For me it's the other way around, I have to push myself to do the right intensity because I have tendency to undercook the workouts.
they have nothing better to do with there time and feel they have to do everything longer and harder than people who have a job/life to justify there "pro athlete" existence and to get the "fans" throthing in there strava comments
welsh runner being a prime example but cole is also slipping down the slippery slope and to call him a part-time worker at present is a very generous statement. sitting around allday thinking about your next session/run is a sad existence, especially for the mentally unstable
If you’re constantly going all in and getting injured and haven’t finished your last few marathon races then it might be a good idea to back off to some extent? Especially if you’re ignoring your coach’s advice
I have a question about this repeating theme "runtubers overdoing workouts/burning out"
How is this physically possible? Maybe I'm not that talented to even being able to overdo a workout, but I've never been so ruined that my fitness actually go back significantly or to get injured. In my experience you have to ignore all of the signs your body tells your mind and push and push to get to this point. It's not that difficult to back off from mileage/intensity. For me it's the other way around, I have to push myself to do the right intensity because I have tendency to undercook the workouts.
they have nothing better to do with there time and feel they have to do everything longer and harder than people who have a job/life to justify there "pro athlete" existence and to get the "fans" throthing in there strava comments
welsh runner being a prime example but cole is also slipping down the slippery slope and to call him a part-time worker at present is a very generous statement. sitting around allday thinking about your next session/run is a sad existence, especially for the mentally unstable
A lot of them seem to end up in this grey area where they are running everything too fast. Cole, as he's mentioned above, does crazy milage and all of it seems to be 4 min k stuff or faster. Contrast this with RTJ, they run way slower on easy runs.
Cole is moving towards this boom and bust cycle. Case in point, he was burnt out after his last marathon block and had to take significant time off running. RTJ, on the other hand, trains consistently year round.
Just checked and Cole's last 4 weeks averaged 6:40s off 135 mpw. Jake is 7:08 off 162 but Jake is living in a hillier area and doing more miles anyway. If you are basically aiming to run a marathon at 5:00 pace I would not say either is overly fast. I can however think of one YouTuber somewhat slower (certainly now) who seems to run many "easy" runs at the same pace Jake averages more or less. That does seem too fast to me. Looking back I averaged 7:10s when I ran 2:33 so, by comparison, I was running too fast it seems albeit off "only" 80 mpw not these crazy amounts.
Just checked and Cole's last 4 weeks averaged 6:40s off 135 mpw. Jake is 7:08 off 162 but Jake is living in a hillier area and doing more miles anyway. If you are basically aiming to run a marathon at 5:00 pace I would not say either is overly fast. I can however think of one YouTuber somewhat slower (certainly now) who seems to run many "easy" runs at the same pace Jake averages more or less. That does seem too fast to me. Looking back I averaged 7:10s when I ran 2:33 so, by comparison, I was running too fast it seems albeit off "only" 80 mpw not these crazy amounts.
Would this one YouTuber also happen to have persistent injury problems?
Just checked and Cole's last 4 weeks averaged 6:40s off 135 mpw. Jake is 7:08 off 162 but Jake is living in a hillier area and doing more miles anyway. If you are basically aiming to run a marathon at 5:00 pace I would not say either is overly fast. I can however think of one YouTuber somewhat slower (certainly now) who seems to run many "easy" runs at the same pace Jake averages more or less. That does seem too fast to me. Looking back I averaged 7:10s when I ran 2:33 so, by comparison, I was running too fast it seems albeit off "only" 80 mpw not these crazy amounts.
**Ben Parkes
**also applies to Nick Bester who has never seen a mile slower than 6:40 other than his last 5 at the London marathon (although he does do every run in supershoes to the delight of his Battersea Park h0rny housewives)
Just checked and Cole's last 4 weeks averaged 6:40s off 135 mpw. Jake is 7:08 off 162 but Jake is living in a hillier area and doing more miles anyway. If you are basically aiming to run a marathon at 5:00 pace I would not say either is overly fast. I can however think of one YouTuber somewhat slower (certainly now) who seems to run many "easy" runs at the same pace Jake averages more or less. That does seem too fast to me. Looking back I averaged 7:10s when I ran 2:33 so, by comparison, I was running too fast it seems albeit off "only" 80 mpw not these crazy amounts.
Looking back at wc 23/03, 5 weeks before London Cole ran 223km / 137miles at about 4:46 per km / 7:46 per mile
This time around, 5 weeks out, which was wc 18/08 he ran 220km / 138miles at 4:16 per km / 6:47 per mile
Got to be a bit careful looking at the week stats in Strava as it is total time and total mileage across everything. So that week included 2 indoor bike rides of about 1.5 hours in total but with no mileage. So take that out and I make it 7:00 min/mile average pace that week. Still bit quicker than last 4 weeks but not as significant a difference.
Just checked and Cole's last 4 weeks averaged 6:40s off 135 mpw. Jake is 7:08 off 162 but Jake is living in a hillier area and doing more miles anyway. If you are basically aiming to run a marathon at 5:00 pace I would not say either is overly fast. I can however think of one YouTuber somewhat slower (certainly now) who seems to run many "easy" runs at the same pace Jake averages more or less. That does seem too fast to me. Looking back I averaged 7:10s when I ran 2:33 so, by comparison, I was running too fast it seems albeit off "only" 80 mpw not these crazy amounts.
**Ben Parkes
**also applies to Nick Bester who has never seen a mile slower than 6:40 other than his last 5 at the London marathon (although he does do every run in supershoes to the delight of his Battersea Park h0rny housewives)
Ha ha, for a minute there I thought Tim was talking about his own coach :)
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