This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
these appear to explain almost all the symptoms we've been seeing, from the clots to heart attacks, strokes, cancers, and 'sudden adult death syndrome.'
the scary part is, the rate of these things is only accelerating, so people who otherwise "feel fine" may be ticking time bombs for sudden and unexpected death.
something is going on and it's unfathomable to the vast majority of the population
Pro-vaxxers, explain this to me. These claims of long, abnormally constructed blood clots have been around for a long time. What's the story on this? If it's false, it would be easy to refute... just survey 100 embalmers and ask them what they have seen. Has that been done?
If it has been done, could you provide a source? I haven't seen an official rebuttal, yet these reports of abnormal blood clots have been around for at least a year. Why hasn't the CDC canvassed embalmers formally to refute this claim?
This is scary because arteries can be partially blocked and be asymptomatic. Because I run lonely trails by myself and my age, I see a cardiologist regularly. I remember him saying that unless an artery is greater than 50% blocked, it's hard to tell. We've all heard stories of people who seemed fine, but they had a heart attack and surgery discovered that their arteries were 80-90% blocked.
Harambe, antivaxxers killing democracy, 2600 bro, you guys could be walking around right now with partially blocked arteries/veins from smaller versions of these clots and not know it.
The CDC should get to the bottom of these reports of abnormal clots ASAP.
If the claims are false, the CDC is doing a HUGE disservice to the public by not presenting data to refute these claims.
If the claims are true and the CDC is ignoring them, the CDC is complicit in crimes against humanity.
Guys, this is BIG DEAL and it's just being ignored!
This is BS and you're being taken for a ride by antivaxx grifters.
There, explained it. There have been no reputable reports of 'abnormal blood clots' -- except for evidence showing that severe COVID infection can cause them.
If you're worried about clotting issues, I suggest getting the COVID vax.
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If it's false, it would be easy to refute... just survey 100 embalmers and ask them what they have seen. Has that been done?
If it has been done, could you provide a source?
This is BS and you're being taken for a ride by antivaxx grifters.
There, explained it. There have been no reputable reports of 'abnormal blood clots' -- except for evidence showing that severe COVID infection can cause them.
If you're worried about clotting issues, I suggest getting the COVID vax.
See my post. Please provide a CDC source that says something to the effect "We called several embalmers who oversee thousands of embalmings each year. They have seen no abnormal clotting."
If these clots don't exist, you should be 100% with me to get the CDC to look into this and publish their findings.
Because they know someone whose locked bike was stolen
Everyone they know who locked their bike had it stolen.
The locks are government issued, mandatory, but with a legal disclaimers that the locks aren't effective at anything (like boxes of face maks), legal immunity for lock producers ("vaccines") from the sudden adult deaths of the owners during the locking/unlocking process.
This is BS and you're being taken for a ride by antivaxx grifters.
There, explained it. There have been no reputable reports of 'abnormal blood clots' -- except for evidence showing that severe COVID infection can cause them.
If you're worried about clotting issues, I suggest getting the COVID vax.
See my post. Please provide a CDC source that says something to the effect "We called several embalmers who oversee thousands of embalmings each year. They have seen no abnormal clotting."
If these clots don't exist, you should be 100% with me to get the CDC to look into this and publish their findings.
This is not how medicine or science or anything in the public sphere works.
You don't get to just post made-up crank theories from fringe antivaxx websites and then demand that authorities generate data to disprove the crank theory of the week.
There are tons of data showing the COVID can cause clotting problems after infections. Do you have data to show these mysterious clots aren't caused by COVID? That is a far more plausible explanation, no?
The CDC does not exist to scan antivaxx blogs and put out lengthy refutations thereof. That is a waste of public funds -- evidenced by the fact that you and others have only become more antivaxx despite zero quality evidence showing serious risks of the vaccine.
This is BS and you're being taken for a ride by antivaxx grifters.
There, explained it. There have been no reputable reports of 'abnormal blood clots' -- except for evidence showing that severe COVID infection can cause them.
If you're worried about clotting issues, I suggest getting the COVID vax.
See my post. Please provide a CDC source that says something to the effect "We called several embalmers who oversee thousands of embalmings each year. They have seen no abnormal clotting."
If these clots don't exist, you should be 100% with me to get the CDC to look into this and publish their findings.
High relative incidence of vascular events soon after COVID-19 diagnosis declines more rapidly for arterial thromboses than VTEs. However, incidence remains elevated up to 49 weeks after COVID-19 diagnosis. These results support policies to prevent severe COVID-19 by means of COVID-19 vaccines, early review after discharge, risk factor control, and use of secondary preventive agents in high-risk patients.
Background: Infection with severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) induces a prothrombotic state, but long-term effects of COVID-19 on incidence of vascular diseases are unclear.
In 2020, your freedoms and liberties were taken away because of an alleged pandemic. You were then told that the answer to regaining those freedoms and liberties was to take an experimental injecti…
In 2020, your freedoms and liberties were taken away because of an alleged pandemic. You were then told that the answer to regaining those freedoms and liberties was to take an experimental injection that had not yet finished clinical trials.
Your Government lied to you about the severity of the alleged Covid-19 virus and put policies in place that ensured tens of thousands of the elderly and vulnerable suffered an untimely and unnecessary death. They then used propaganda and lies to convince you they had died of Covid-19 so that they could justify the Draconian measures they had enforced to turn your country into a totalitarian state.
The lies and propaganda then continued so that they could coerce millions to take an experimental gene therapy that they insisted was safe and effective with absolutely no evidence whatsoever to back it up. They even went as far as to insist it was completely safe for pregnant women to get vaccinated when not a single study had been carried out to confirm this was the case.
Now, almost two years later, we have a wealth of evidence that not only proves your Government was lying to you with the help of the mainstream media, but also proves they have caused untold devastation with the decisions they made.
Because confidential Pfizer documents and official Government reports prove that Covid-19 vaccination is destroying immune systems, greatly increasing the risk of death, killing hundreds of thousands on a weekly basis, and causing infertility, stillbirths, cancer and a whole host of further devastation and disease.
Out of 10 people, read what 7 of them had to say and REMEMBER THEIR NAMES.
"The consequences for the unvaccinated need to be firm and unyielding. First responders, firefighters, teachers and anyone working in a health care capacity, including nursing facilities, must be vaccinated or terminated."
"To allow the vaccinated to experience some measure of that freedom from fear until the majority is vaccinated, the vaccine refuseniks should be excluded from all public events, restaurants, workplaces, schools, etc."
"Unvaccinated people should expect to be banned from many public social events, gatherings and employment."
"I believe that the individuals who refuse the vaccine in the name of liberty should face the consequence of not being allowed to travel, face the possibility of being denied medical care"
"People who refuse the vaccination should be required to stay at home as well as wear masks and should expect to be fined."
"If you need it and are lucky enough to get an ICU bed you should be kicked out if a vaccinated patient needs it instead."
"You should be treated as the pariah that you are"
Confidence in vaccines has declined "significantly" since the start of the COVID pandemic, according to a new study.
Researchers from the University of Portsmouth carried out two anonymous surveys in the winters of 2019 and 2022 to gauge people's attitudes to vaccinations and to look at what factors cause hesitancy and refusal.
After questioning more than 1,000 adults, they found that the post-pandemic group was considerably less confident in vaccines than the pre-pandemic group.
The paper, published in the medical journal Vaccine, showed a fall in confidence in nearly one in four participants since 2020, regardless of their age, gender, religious belief, education or ethnicity.
Researchers found a fall in confidence in nearly one in four participants since 2020, regardless of their age, gender, religious belief, education or ethnicity.
“To think that every human on the planet can take one vaccine is ludicrous,” she said. “And to make that one vaccine the criteria for who is allowed to work, travel, dine, go to theater, et cetera, is an infringement on the Disabilities Act, the freedom of religion act and body sovereignty.”
See my post. Please provide a CDC source that says something to the effect "We called several embalmers who oversee thousands of embalmings each year. They have seen no abnormal clotting."
If these clots don't exist, you should be 100% with me to get the CDC to look into this and publish their findings.
High relative incidence of vascular events soon after COVID-19 diagnosis declines more rapidly for arterial thromboses than VTEs. However, incidence remains elevated up to 49 weeks after COVID-19 diagnosis. These results support policies to prevent severe COVID-19 by means of COVID-19 vaccines, early review after discharge, risk factor control, and use of secondary preventive agents in high-risk patients.
This does not address my point about stringy clots of abnormal composition being found in the majority of cadavers, as claimed by some whistleblowers.
Can we agree on the following point? The CDC and the administration wants everyone to get vaccinated. Tons of money has been and is being spend to achieve that goal.
Everyone in the establishment would agree with that, right?
And yet, according to the CDC Covid Data Tracker, approx. 64M people have refused to get vaccinated at all, 39M got one dose and stopped, and 115M haven't gotten boosted yet. That's 218M people who are not fully vaccinated! This is a woeful failure on the part of the CDC.
IF getting vaccinated is really a concern, as they constantly say it is, why aren't they actively presenting data to refute these claims? IT WOULD BE EASY TO DO. With a database of phone numbers and emails of embalmers and a staff of 2-3 interns, a hundred embalmers could be contacted in a couple of days. Initial findings could be compiled from a short verbal questionnaire in a couple of days. It would take a week... maybe a little more because of the bureacracy involved.
Right now, tens of MILLIONS of those hesitant Americans are refusing to get vaccinated and/or boosted because they've seen reports like the one I posted on abnormal blood clots. If the CDC cared about their mission, they would take aggressive steps to gather data to refute these claims and they would publish it.
It would take a couple of interns a couple of days to call 100 embalmers and ask, "Have you seen anything abnormal? If so, what?"
Why hasn't this been done? The most obvious answer is that it HAS been done and the results didn't support the party line.
This does not address my point about stringy clots of abnormal composition being found in the majority of cadavers, as claimed by some whistleblowers.
Again, it is the responsibility of those making the claim to support that claim. If it is as easy to do as you believe, why has substantial evidence for the claim not been compiled?
My point in linking the study up thread is that, even if there were substantial instances of "abnormal composition", tracing causality to the vaccine would be confounded by the virus being known to cause related and persistent effects.
Why hasn't this been done? The most obvious answer is that it HAS been done and the results didn't support the party line.
This is literal conspiracy ideation and ignores that there are reports of clotting issues with the vaccines and covid infections in the literature. In particular, the J&J vaccine rollout was held up for a bit to delve into adverse reations.
It's not that vaccine adverse effects is not an active research question, it's that the methods of those persons who have plausible subject matter expertise aren't researching it via the method you suggest.
1) I am the opposite of a despicable human. I am what humans should be...righteous yet kind.
2) Health care workers deserved to be fired (or quit) for refusing to get vaccinated. They have to have a slew of other vaccines to work in health care. Why was this one so different? Because your Orange Fool President made it political, and fools like you fell for it even though he himself has been vaccinated and boosted. Sorry, but the very rare instances of problems with the vaccine does not warrant not getting it. COVID is WAY more deadly than the vaccine.
1) "I am the opposite of a decent human. I am what humans shouldn't be...self-righteous and ignorant, bigoted, and cruel." Fixed it.
2. The CDC, NIH, and the vaccine corporations themselves could only get about 50% "vaccine" uptake on the first shot. Sadly, for dangerous people like you, the refusal rate from the scientists, doctors, nurses, and assorted health care workers is far too high for most hospitals to effectively persecute, the places that tried had to pay huge costs to hire temporary replacements (often themselves un-injected) usually from places that didn't require "vaccines."
The latest federal numbers show, as of Oct. 9, 6.5 per cent of kids under five received one dose of the COVID-19 vaccine, while one per cent received two doses. That's significantly lower than the rest of the population, in w...
