This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
I got boosted. Pretty happy about it. One time I had the flu it killed my work productivity for a month. Even if I get sick it will never be like that again.
The immune system fatigue is a legitimate concern:
Another study has predicted an increase in CD8+ Large Granular Lymphocitic Leukemia due to fatigue from a never ending stream of boosters.
This was especially troubling:
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Frequent boosting and immune exhaustion
In addition to the inability of the current COVID-19 vaccines to provide long-term immunity, some researchers believe that frequent or constant exposure to foreign molecules found in an infectious agent may cause immune “exhaustion.”
Such a phenomenon has been widely reported with HIV infection and cancer. In those cases, because the T cells “see” the foreign molecules all the time, they can get worn down and fail to rid the body of the cancer or HIV.
Evidence also suggests that in severe cases of COVID-19, the killer T cells may be exhibiting immune exhaustion and therefore be unable to mount a strong immune response. Whether repeated COVID-19 vaccine boosters can cause similar T cell exhaustion is a possibility that needs further study.
A federal court ordered on Oct. 21 that Dr. Anthony Fauci and other top officials testify under oath at depositions in a case that has uncovered evidence of alleged federal government collusion with Big Tech companies to cens...
In January, Rand Paul may be Chairman of the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee. Perhaps we will finally get some truth.
The Deep State has many tools. I can't imagine the depositions of Fauci and others will be allowed. Fauci can be thrown under the bus but the light that would be shone on how corrupt the agencies who are supposed to be regulating Big Pharmaa are cannot be permitted.
The intellectual arguments mounted by this guy are monumental
Unintelligent/dishonest arguments don’t deserve the respect of having intelligent rebuttals. Antivaxxers have really done some good work in making this apparent over the past 2 years
In January, Rand Paul may be Chairman of the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee. Perhaps we will finally get some truth.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Rand Paul was and is an MD, long before he was a Senator, and he has maintained his medical license continously since 1993. No politician is more qualified than him, certainly not someone you'd approve, laughing boy.
Rand Paul was and is an MD, long before he was a Senator, and he has maintained his medical license continously since 1993. No politician is more qualified than him, certainly not someone you'd approve, laughing boy.
Practicing ophthalmology is firmly in the hobby jogger realm of medicine. That would like letting a community organizer or TV show host run a country!
Rand Paul was and is an MD, long before he was a Senator, and he has maintained his medical license continously since 1993. No politician is more qualified than him, certainly not someone you'd approve, laughing boy.
Practicing ophthalmology is firmly in the hobby jogger realm of medicine. That would like letting a community organizer or TV show host run a country!
What senator with a stronger medical degree would suggest to be Chairman in his place then?
In the first two and a half years of COVID, 150 thousand more American under 45s have died than expected. However, almost half of those deaths have occurred in the last twelve months.
Though the CDC itself cannot mandate such shots, states and local authorities can, and some will clearly use the approval of the CDC as cover to inflict such medical tyranny. One such vulnerable Governor is JB Pritzker of Illinois. Pritzker was so strident in his lockdown and mandate measures that Joe Biden chose to travel to Illinois last year to announce his vax mandate policy for every medium- and large-size employer in America. Thankfully, that draconian and illegal mandate was struck down by the Supreme Court, but Pritzker supported it and there is little doubt that a second term for him would mean a vaccine mandate for all school children in Illinois.
Reassuringly, his opponent, State Sen. Darren Bailey, issued a strong statement that as governor of Illinois, he would stop any COVID vaccine mandates to attend school, explaining that “we all know the mandate candidate, J.B. Pritzker, will force it on your kids because he thinks the government knows better than parents.” That race is already tight, with the latest Osage Research poll finding Pritzker up by only 2%, with higher unfavorable ratings than Darren Bailey as well.
With compulsory childhood vaccinations now clearly on the ballot, Pritzker and other pro-lockdown, pro-mandate Democrats face political peril, especially among the supermajority of mothers who have clearly opted out of vaccinating their children. Similar scenarios play out in New York, where Rep. Lee Zeldin remains locked in a tight race with Gov. Kathy Hochul. There, Zeldin smartly promised to protect New York parents from such intrusion: “As governor, I will oppose mandating the COVID vaccine.”
Joe Biden just got his fifth covid shot. How long until he gets covid again? I’m going over/under three months. The sixth shot in March will fix it though. That’s the one that will work.
Another study has predicted an increase in CD8+ Large Granular Lymphocitic Leukemia due to fatigue from a never ending stream of boosters.
This was especially troubling:
******
Frequent boosting and immune exhaustion
In addition to the inability of the current COVID-19 vaccines to provide long-term immunity, some researchers believe that frequent or constant exposure to foreign molecules found in an infectious agent may cause immune “exhaustion.”
Such a phenomenon has been widely reported with HIV infection and cancer. In those cases, because the T cells “see” the foreign molecules all the time, they can get worn down and fail to rid the body of the cancer or HIV.
Evidence also suggests that in severe cases of COVID-19, the killer T cells may be exhibiting immune exhaustion and therefore be unable to mount a strong immune response. Whether repeated COVID-19 vaccine boosters can cause similar T cell exhaustion is a possibility that needs further study.
T cell exhaustion comes from chronic antigen exposure, not from boosting every 6 or 9 or 12 months.
In solid tumors and chronic viral infections T cells are constantly exposed to antigen and are pushed toward a dysfunctional state... likely to limit autoimmunity.
Boosting weeks or months apart wont cause this. We give flu shots yearly, 5 dose vaccine courses to kids, these things boost immunity... not dampen it.
The intellectual arguments mounted by this guy are monumental
Unintelligent/dishonest arguments don’t deserve the respect of having intelligent rebuttals. Antivaxxers have really done some good work in making this apparent over the past 2 years
Joe Biden just got his fifth covid shot. How long until he gets covid again? I’m going over/under three months. The sixth shot in March will fix it though. That’s the one that will work.
Sooner or later one of these boosters will end Covid
Another study has predicted an increase in CD8+ Large Granular Lymphocitic Leukemia due to fatigue from a never ending stream of boosters.
This was especially troubling:
******
Frequent boosting and immune exhaustion
In addition to the inability of the current COVID-19 vaccines to provide long-term immunity, some researchers believe that frequent or constant exposure to foreign molecules found in an infectious agent may cause immune “exhaustion.”
Such a phenomenon has been widely reported with HIV infection and cancer. In those cases, because the T cells “see” the foreign molecules all the time, they can get worn down and fail to rid the body of the cancer or HIV.
Evidence also suggests that in severe cases of COVID-19, the killer T cells may be exhibiting immune exhaustion and therefore be unable to mount a strong immune response. Whether repeated COVID-19 vaccine boosters can cause similar T cell exhaustion is a possibility that needs further study.
Rand Paul was and is an MD, long before he was a Senator, and he has maintained his medical license continously since 1993. No politician is more qualified than him, certainly not someone you'd approve, laughing boy.
Practicing ophthalmology is firmly in the hobby jogger realm of medicine. That would like letting a community organizer or TV show host run a country!
Im going to disagree on ophtho…That is a very hard residency to swing. On the other hand, Paul is clearly an ideologue in all matters, and public health is the antithesis of libertarianism. I cannot see him supporting any public health measure, as he values libertarianism above all.
Rand Paul was and is an MD, long before he was a Senator, and he has maintained his medical license continously since 1993. No politician is more qualified than him, certainly not someone you'd approve, laughing boy.
Practicing ophthalmology is firmly in the hobby jogger realm of medicine. That would like letting a community organizer or TV show host run a country!
As a person who recently had someone stick metal objects into my eye and clean up the mess they found, I would have to rate my ophthalmologist as considerably above the hobby jogger level. But Rand Paul is still a disgrace.
