agip wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
trump lovers (or should I say Rs now) are a cancer
https://twitter.com/jahimes/status/1399506574792609793?s=20trump has been saying the same thing.
can you court martial a former commander in chief?
https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1399707794375426051?s=20
First of all - reeks of desperation to stay relevant, that's really all there is to it.
Second, you don't court martial private citizens.
Racket, PhD wrote:
agip wrote:
trump has been saying the same thing.
can you court martial a former commander in chief?
https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1399707794375426051?s=20First of all - reeks of desperation to stay relevant, that's really all there is to it.
Second, you don't court martial private citizens.
You can if they served previously. They would be recalled to active duty followed by court martial. Former social media influencer bone spurs may not be eligible for that treatment.
Trollminator wrote:
Racket, PhD wrote:
First of all - reeks of desperation to stay relevant, that's really all there is to it.
Second, you don't court martial private citizens.
You can if they served previously. They would be recalled to active duty followed by court martial. Former social media influencer bone spurs may not be eligible for that treatment.
I’ll add that this is rare and questionable, would definitely be challenged in court, but retired officers are subject to the UCMJ.
And yes it is desperate of Trump but it’s yet another seditious act that will have serious consequences. Fat fk red necks everywhere are getting excited and cleaning their riffles in anticipation of the next order.
Trollminator wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
You can if they served previously. They would be recalled to active duty followed by court martial. Former social media influencer bone spurs may not be eligible for that treatment.
I’ll add that this is rare and questionable, would definitely be challenged in court, but retired officers are subject to the UCMJ.
And yes it is desperate of Trump but it’s yet another seditious act that will have serious consequences. Fat fk red necks everywhere are getting excited and cleaning their riffles in anticipation of the next order.
and then there is this gem... pure coincidence obviously
https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1399793004949344258?s=20Trollminator wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
You can if they served previously. They would be recalled to active duty followed by court martial. Former social media influencer bone spurs may not be eligible for that treatment.
I’ll add that this is rare and questionable, would definitely be challenged in court, but retired officers are subject to the UCMJ.
And yes it is desperate of Trump but it’s yet another seditious act that will have serious consequences. Fat fk red necks everywhere are getting excited and cleaning their riffles in anticipation of the next order.
Private citizen implies someone who never in the military. But someone who was in the military can be court martialed even if they are retired. In Trump's case he was commander in chief, and not a private citizen, and would be subject to the same thing; in this Trump can be tried for sedition.
10 U.S. Code § 894 - Art. 94. Mutiny or sedition
(a) Any person subject to this chapter who—
(1) with intent to usurp or override lawful military authority, refuses, in concert with any other person, to obey orders or otherwise do his duty or creates any violence or disturbance is guilty of mutiny;
(2) with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of lawful civil authority, creates, in concert with any other person, revolt, violence, or other disturbance against that authority is guilty of sedition;
(3) fails to do his utmost to prevent and suppress a mutiny or sedition being committed in his presence, or fails to take all reasonable means to inform his superior commissioned officer or commanding officer of a mutiny or sedition which he knows or has reason to believe is taking place, is guilty of a failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition.
(b) A person who is found guilty of attempted mutiny, mutiny, sedition, or failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition shall be punished by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/01/29/military-retirees-can-be-court-martialed-after-all-appeals-court-decides.htmlhttps://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/894Trollminator wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
I’ll add that this is rare and questionable, would definitely be challenged in court, but retired officers are subject to the UCMJ.
And yes it is desperate of Trump but it’s yet another seditious act that will have serious consequences. Fat fk red necks everywhere are getting excited and cleaning their riffles in anticipation of the next order.
and then there is this gem... pure coincidence obviously
https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1399793004949344258?s=20
I don't think it's fair to say that Charles Flynn personally and purposefully delayed the response. It's possible, but from my understanding, it's not at all clear who made what decisions when.
This is why we need a commission to find out exactly what happened.
recon wrote:
(b) A person who is found guilty of attempted mutiny, mutiny, sedition, or failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition shall be punished by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct.
Using a highlighter.
recon wrote:
recon wrote:
(b) A person who is found guilty of attempted mutiny, mutiny, sedition, or failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition shall be punished by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct.
Using a highlighter.
Some interesting US treason cases to read about. Just glanced and saw one case from Civil War where one guy tore down the US flag after the south lost and of course was labeled a hero by the south. For another case from the 40s there was conviction for spreading propaganda.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_convicted_of_treasonFat hurts wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
and then there is this gem... pure coincidence obviously
https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1399793004949344258?s=20I don't think it's fair to say that Charles Flynn personally and purposefully delayed the response. It's possible, but from my understanding, it's not at all clear who made what decisions when.
This is why we need a commission to find out exactly what happened.
pretty clear to me that the trumpists are testing the fences, seeing what they can get away with.
they got away with everything when their man could pardon them. and did pardon them.
now that their guy is not in the WH they need to be prosecuted, to show that the fences are firm and solid.
Any failed coup is just a practice.
they've been practicing and are learning that they can do or say just about anything, with no consequence.
Biden might be too much of a nice guy here. Although the people in the Democratic Party tend to be naive - they just can't believe the trumpers mean it when they say they want a coup. Ouch.
I think Racket predicted this one. Good news.
agip wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
I don't think it's fair to say that Charles Flynn personally and purposefully delayed the response. It's possible, but from my understanding, it's not at all clear who made what decisions when.
This is why we need a commission to find out exactly what happened.
pretty clear to me that the trumpists are testing the fences, seeing what they can get away with.
they got away with everything when their man could pardon them. and did pardon them.
now that their guy is not in the WH they need to be prosecuted, to show that the fences are firm and solid.
Any failed coup is just a practice.
they've been practicing and are learning that they can do or say just about anything, with no consequence.
Biden might be too much of a nice guy here. Although the people in the Democratic Party tend to be naive - they just can't believe the trumpers mean it when they say they want a coup. Ouch.
It’s a sensitive balance for the Ds. The GQP knows that Ds can also benefit politically from the right’s lawlessness so it kind of serves as a cushion for them to continue criming. Ds have to both use these incidents to incentivize voters and ensure an objective legal process is in place to stop some of these fkrs in their tracks. Ds are holding the door right now but not sure they understand or care just how dangerous this situation is.
agip wrote:
I think Racket predicted this one. Good news.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-administration-to-suspend-oil-leases-in-arctic-refuge-11622575912?mod=hp_lead_pos4
Good news. Keep it in the ground.
Light years better
https://twitter.com/projectlincoln/status/1399823636308103170?s=21
Trollminator wrote:
Racket, PhD wrote:
First of all - reeks of desperation to stay relevant, that's really all there is to it.
Second, you don't court martial private citizens.
You can if they served previously. They would be recalled to active duty followed by court martial. Former social media influencer bone spurs may not be eligible for that treatment.
As usual you have no idea what you are talking about. You can not court martial a sitting commander-in-chief or a former one. Commanders-in-chief are never in "active duty." The commander-in-chiefship is a civilian office. Like a CEO. The President does not enlist in, and he is not inducted or drafted into, the armed forces. Nor, is he subject to court-martial or other military discipline.
Please do some research before you post such nonsense. Ginamator - get it together! Sheesh.
Sally Vix wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
You can if they served previously. They would be recalled to active duty followed by court martial. Former social media influencer bone spurs may not be eligible for that treatment.
As usual you have no idea what you are talking about. You can not court martial a sitting commander-in-chief or a former one. Commanders-in-chief are never in "active duty." The commander-in-chiefship is a civilian office. Like a CEO. The President does not enlist in, and he is not inducted or drafted into, the armed forces. Nor, is he subject to court-martial or other military discipline.
Please do some research before you post such nonsense. Ginamator - get it together! Sheesh.
I didn’t think your reading comprehension could be even worse. Sucks to be a loser AND a dumba$$. 😂🎻👋🏻
recon wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
I’ll add that this is rare and questionable, would definitely be challenged in court, but retired officers are subject to the UCMJ.
And yes it is desperate of Trump but it’s yet another seditious act that will have serious consequences. Fat fk red necks everywhere are getting excited and cleaning their riffles in anticipation of the next order.
Private citizen implies someone who never in the military. But someone who was in the military can be court martialed even if they are retired. In Trump's case he was commander in chief, and not a private citizen, and would be subject to the same thing; in this Trump can be tried for sedition.
10 U.S. Code § 894 - Art. 94. Mutiny or sedition
(a) Any person subject to this chapter who—
(1) with intent to usurp or override lawful military authority, refuses, in concert with any other person, to obey orders or otherwise do his duty or creates any violence or disturbance is guilty of mutiny;
(2) with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of lawful civil authority, creates, in concert with any other person, revolt, violence, or other disturbance against that authority is guilty of sedition;
(3) fails to do his utmost to prevent and suppress a mutiny or sedition being committed in his presence, or fails to take all reasonable means to inform his superior commissioned officer or commanding officer of a mutiny or sedition which he knows or has reason to believe is taking place, is guilty of a failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition.
(b) A person who is found guilty of attempted mutiny, mutiny, sedition, or failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition shall be punished by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/01/29/military-retirees-can-be-court-martialed-after-all-appeals-court-decides.htmlhttps://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/894
You too have no idea what you are talking about. The commander-in-chief is never in the military. It is a civilian office. He can never be subjected to a court martial or other military disciple. Libs - come on - you can do better than this.
recon wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
I’ll add that this is rare and questionable, would definitely be challenged in court, but retired officers are subject to the UCMJ.
And yes it is desperate of Trump but it’s yet another seditious act that will have serious consequences. Fat fk red necks everywhere are getting excited and cleaning their riffles in anticipation of the next order.
Private citizen implies someone who never in the military. But someone who was in the military can be court martialed even if they are retired. In Trump's case he was commander in chief, and not a private citizen, and would be subject to the same thing; in this Trump can be tried for sedition.
10 U.S. Code § 894 - Art. 94. Mutiny or sedition
(a) Any person subject to this chapter who—
(1) with intent to usurp or override lawful military authority, refuses, in concert with any other person, to obey orders or otherwise do his duty or creates any violence or disturbance is guilty of mutiny;
(2) with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of lawful civil authority, creates, in concert with any other person, revolt, violence, or other disturbance against that authority is guilty of sedition;
(3) fails to do his utmost to prevent and suppress a mutiny or sedition being committed in his presence, or fails to take all reasonable means to inform his superior commissioned officer or commanding officer of a mutiny or sedition which he knows or has reason to believe is taking place, is guilty of a failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition.
(b) A person who is found guilty of attempted mutiny, mutiny, sedition, or failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition shall be punished by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/01/29/military-retirees-can-be-court-martialed-after-all-appeals-court-decides.htmlhttps://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/894
I imagine it would have to be for crimes committed while serving at least. I suppose that makes sense enough
Trollminator wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
As usual you have no idea what you are talking about. You can not court martial a sitting commander-in-chief or a former one. Commanders-in-chief are never in "active duty." The commander-in-chiefship is a civilian office. Like a CEO. The President does not enlist in, and he is not inducted or drafted into, the armed forces. Nor, is he subject to court-martial or other military discipline.
Please do some research before you post such nonsense. Ginamator - get it together! Sheesh.
I didn’t think your reading comprehension could be even worse. Sucks to be a loser AND a dumba$$. 😂🎻👋🏻
You said he could be recalled to active duty. He is never in active duty idiot. I never use that word but made an exception for you.
Racket, PhD wrote:
recon wrote:
Private citizen implies someone who never in the military. But someone who was in the military can be court martialed even if they are retired. In Trump's case he was commander in chief, and not a private citizen, and would be subject to the same thing; in this Trump can be tried for sedition.
10 U.S. Code § 894 - Art. 94. Mutiny or sedition
(a) Any person subject to this chapter who—
(1) with intent to usurp or override lawful military authority, refuses, in concert with any other person, to obey orders or otherwise do his duty or creates any violence or disturbance is guilty of mutiny;
(2) with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of lawful civil authority, creates, in concert with any other person, revolt, violence, or other disturbance against that authority is guilty of sedition;
(3) fails to do his utmost to prevent and suppress a mutiny or sedition being committed in his presence, or fails to take all reasonable means to inform his superior commissioned officer or commanding officer of a mutiny or sedition which he knows or has reason to believe is taking place, is guilty of a failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition.
(b) A person who is found guilty of attempted mutiny, mutiny, sedition, or failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition shall be punished by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/01/29/military-retirees-can-be-court-martialed-after-all-appeals-court-decides.htmlhttps://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/894I imagine it would have to be for crimes committed while serving at least. I suppose that makes sense enough
The commander in chief DOES NOT serve in the military. Can you Libs not understand this?
Hilarious
Mueller investigation will bring Trump down - nothing there Dems 0-1
Impeachment 1 will bring Trump down - Trump acquitted - Dems 0-2
Impeachment 2 will bring Trump down - Trump acquitted - Dems 0-3
SDNY will bring Trump down - He been out of office for 5 months - nothing - Dems 0-4
Trump court martial will bring Trump down - Trump CAN'T BE COURT-MARTIAL ED! LOL. - Dems 0-5
Aren't you tired of losing and looking foolish?
Maybe you can bring Trump down with a VOODOO DOLL!! LOL.