New Gen Camp = Misogyny Training for High Schoolers

It actually is a sexist trope that the sexually active girl in the movie gets killed first. The virginal girl gets to live along with the white hero guy. Once you have 10 horror movies in a row where the white straight guy gets killed off immediately, then you can invoke Jesus.

The tagline for The Blackening is "We can't all die first" cause it's a horror satire with an all Black cast. If you're not part of the demographic that's killed off first, you're just not going to notice it as much.

I think the worst looking parts for new gen in order is

1a. Wisner DMs/encouraging the blog

1b. Carter and the rice purity test

2. the playboy style ad for the merch on ig

3. the bathroom posts from camp

I’m not sure if the merch ad was before NXN but it is pretty wild that Nike would have let them have so much access at those meets after that ad. Their primary/only demographic are high school runners and that ad is not only sexualizing their brand, it is literally selling high school kids sex. It is wild.

I have no idea how Nike/On could pass over such an obvious red flag and give them access/partnerships/ sponsorship to meets and branding. I can understand how they may have not dug deep enough to see those blog posts, but this was literally right there.

It is to bad, I have $80 invested in On so I’m pretty disappointed with how they look in this.

outsideonline.com

These Gen Z Runners Want to Reinvent Running Media

mmirhashem

For New Generation Track and Field, established media companies are too stuck in their ways

Link:www.outsideonline.com/health/running/n...

"The next issue of New Generation’s magazine, Wisner was pleased to tell me, will include running-themed erotic fan fiction."

Why?

👆🏼Genius

Ben’s YouTube interview doesn’t make the cut?

haha too many bad things to choose from is incredible really

Didn’t the Jason character have some sort of women issues? Also fiction and not real kids doing real things but ok.

Say what?

“The company, which became a registered LLC in early 2021, was founded by University of Oregon senior Ben Crawford, who made a name for himself in the summer of 2020 by filming workouts of Oregon distance runners and posting the results on his personal YouTube channel. At the time, Crawford was interning as a social media manager for the university’s athletic department, though his overly freewheeling use of team footage eventually caused him to be “relieved of his duties,” as he phrased it to me. (The University of Oregon did not respond to a request for comment.)”

“For now, Crawford seems to abide by the mantra that it’s better to ask for forgiveness than permission. (He is adamant, however, that the runners who appear in his videos are his peers and close friends—not university assets that he is pilfering for personal gain.) “I think right now is like the Wild West and things are going to change in two or three years when they make adjustments to these NIL rules,” Crawford says. “But right now the floodgates are open and it’s a free-for-all. We’ll cross the bridge of ‘Can we do this or not?’ when we get there.””

Haha kind of forgot about that one but everyone has know Ben is a cu*k for a while and have know about that video for a long time.

The ad just looks awful in hindsight after all this new stuff came out. I haven’t really followed New Gen the last year or so and I never found Wisner or Carter that weird while Ev and Ben always rubbed me the wrong way.

Honestly I feel like Carter and Wisner come out looking way worse then Ben in this one as there is actually pretty hard evidence of sus/grooming behavior and conversations.

Also LOL at Wisner wanting erotic fanfic in the magazine. Imagine if it be if it’s a camper writing one about Carter. Who does this dude think he is putting erotica in a running magazine 😂

There's too much in this thread to try to catch up on all of it. Looking at this from the angle of the camp's seeming objectives though, here is my take:

This wasn't an art camp. It was a business/marketing camp. If art was created, fine, but the art was for the purpose of campers learning to create a business around themselves/marketing of themselves. The concept of the camp is actually pretty cool and for top end student-athletes and those who aspire to careers in this space, what a person could learn at a camp like this could be immediately applicable. I understand the draw for kids in the era of NIL and social media exposure, but the camp's most public work missed the mark. Whether they realize it or not, the attendees of the camp went home less marketable than they were when they arrived at camp. They might be proud of their work in the moment and feel misunderstood, but their attempt at defending it suggests that their PR skills were not well refined at this camp. Because of the photos themselves and their reactions, at best, they are going to have to explain themselves to potential partners to earn the same opportunities as they would have had if no photos had been posted and it is entirely possible, if not likely, that these photos being posted are the reason that they lose out on opportunities that would have come their way.

Giving the campers free reign to create the project is one thing. They think it's funny, have at it. But part of being a content creator is knowing what content to shelve. Just because it was created, doesn't mean that it is going to land and this was an opportunity for professionals to sit down and have that conversation. Instead, it's out there and this is the response. Maybe I'm wrong here? Are there other forums where this content has been received well? Is this project receiving praise anywhere?

Bottom line, I don't think that I'd be interested in attending a business/marketing camp to expand my own business and marketing opportunities, when the people who run the camp, are making decisions at the camp, that damage their own business/marketability.

To be fair people didn't have a problem with it until Emma commented on it -- the comments were well received until she called it out.

Not that I remember. If you want to poke holes in that example - is every movie where a woman is attacked or killed "offensive to women?"

Also, the camp photoshoot pictures are just as fictional.

No, because most people don't take pictures on instagram that seriously. Nobody gives a sh!t either way.

I think many people did have a problem with it but didn’t voice that opinion until Emma pointed it out.

Broke the classic Bystander effect if we want to relate it back to bullying

A lot of that due to emma forwarding her audience over, I meant NG's audience didn't seem too offended

If no one cared why did they make one person’s criticism such a massive issue through homophobic attacks on the critics personal life? Were they hurt because they felt like Emma was a friend? There wouldn’t be a 30 page thread on LetsRun if they responded better or not at all.

Emma is bi. Disregard opinion.

1. Whoever ran (in charge of) this camp is a Loser(s)

2. Also - Dumb white guys trying too hard to be cool. So so so lame.