This is looking really bad for Russia, which is scarey. Once Putin finally figures out he has lost this will he do the unthinkable? The rat in a corner thing.
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Just the beginning of a massive decline
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RussianTerroristState wrote:
carmine9 wrote:
Did you believe that Saddam had WMDs?
That it was legit that Bldng 7 fell on 911 despited not having been hit by a plane.
That the US did not help overthrow the elected govt of Ukraine in 2014?
That the Urkainians are winning the war with Russia?
That Biden is not in dementia?
That Covid is/was a deadly pandemic of the unvaccinated?
You are a sucker for deep state lies/propaganda
Yes. Iraq used chemical weapons, including mustard gas, Darin, and tabun against Iran during the Iran-Iraq war, during which Saddam was both the President and Prime Minister of Iraq. Ergo, yes, Saddam had weapons of mass destruction.
Yes. Because I’m not a Jimmy Dore worshiping conspiracy theory nutjob.
Yes. The US did not help overthrow the government of Ukraine in 2014. Ukrainians are smart enough to know that Western / European ties are far more valuable than getting anchored to the sh*thole that is Russia.
Winning? Maybe. Doing significant damage to Russia’s military, economy, and world image? Absolutely. Depriving Russia of their primary objective of encircling Kyiv and overthrowing the Ukrainian government? Yes.
No.
Maybe. You need to be more specific in what you mean, but this is not the thread for that.
You just proved you are a sucker for Agency propaganda. Agency uses their friendly stooges in U.S. media. Poster, who was U.S. President during Iran-Iraq Conflict? Who was U.S. President when S. Hussein did what you said he did? Those event occurred during Reagan Administration in 1980's. W. Bush started a war against Iraq in 2003. No W.M.D.s where found. Do not lie on this site!
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It's been like this for a few weeks now...
Will be no Russians in my fox hole, they simply can' fight.
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Artist impression. LOL
Like they posted how they destroy Russian planes in computer games for months
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Abc1234567 wrote:
Artist impression. LOL
Like they posted how they destroy Russian planes in computer games for months
Russia has lost over 60.000 troops and a TON equipment, what have they gained....
How much of Ukraine is occupied by Russia?
As of today Russia continues to illegally occupy Ukraine's Autonomous Republic of Crimea (26 081 km²), the city of Sevastopol (864 km²), certain areas of Donetsk and Luhansk regions (16799 km²) — in total 43744 km² or 7,2% of the territory of Ukraine.7.2 hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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was life in 2018 something terrible in Russia?
btw in 2020 covid restrictions sent US economy probably back 30 years.
this winter Europe economy will go to 1890 without russian resources
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Deno wrote:
Abc1234567 wrote:
Artist impression. LOL
Like they posted how they destroy Russian planes in computer games for months
Russia has lost over 60.000 troops and a TON equipment, what have they gained....
How much of Ukraine is occupied by Russia?
As of today Russia continues to illegally occupy Ukraine's Autonomous Republic of Crimea (26 081 km²), the city of Sevastopol (864 km²), certain areas of Donetsk and Luhansk regions (16799 km²) — in total 43744 km² or 7,2% of the territory of Ukraine.7.2 hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sure, 60 000. the same artist impression
btw Russia got back more than 20% of illegally separateted Ukranian soviet socialist republic
7% was before war started
anddon't worry in due time all Ukraine will be back where it belongs and Zelensky will get what he deserves
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Deno wrote:
What have they gained....
How much of Ukraine is occupied by Russia?
As of today Russia continues to illegally occupy Ukraine's Autonomous Republic of Crimea (26 081 km²), the city of Sevastopol (864 km²), certain areas of Donetsk and Luhansk regions (16799 km²) — in total 43744 km² or 7,2% of the territory of Ukraine.7.2 hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
More than the US gained in Afghanistan. As per Zelensky, Russia controls 20% of Ukraine, so your post is factually incorrect.
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Gaining control over a foreign country territory is not a win until there is peace and other countries recognize the annexation.
The age of territorial conquest is long time gone.
Powerful countries don't need conquests anymore. They just need to subdue other countries.
If Russia has occupied 20% it doesn't mean that it can use it in anyway.
Donbas has been in a state of war for 8 years. A province which is in state of war cannot thrive.
So besides spending their resources on those 20% of land, Russia can only steal resources like grains, steel and minerals.
The best thing for Russia to do is to find a convenient exit from the war.
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George Ilie wrote:
Gaining control over a foreign country territory is not a win until there is peace and other countries recognize the annexation.
The age of territorial conquest is long time gone.
Powerful countries don't need conquests anymore. They just need to subdue other countries.
If Russia has occupied 20% it doesn't mean that it can use it in anyway.
Donbas has been in a state of war for 8 years. A province which is in state of war cannot thrive.
So besides spending their resources on those 20% of land, Russia can only steal resources like grains, steel and minerals.
The best thing for Russia to do is to find a convenient exit from the war.
Russia will never lose a war, even if it will take 100.000.000 lives. Pride over everything else there, especially when they fight the "rotten West". War will only end when Ukraine will legally give up Donbas and Crimea. Otherwise the entire shore of the Black Sea will be occupied and blocked off for as long as it takes. Considering Zelensky is unwilling to give in, we're facing a long term war, maybe even a decade.
A decade without Russian resources would mean the end of EU as a super power.
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Ukrainians fleeing Ukraine to Russian held territories.
You know, because things are going so well for Ukraine.
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carmine9 wrote:
Ukrainians fleeing Ukraine to Russian held territories.
You know, because things are going so well for Ukraine.
I don't even have to watch this video to know that it's wrong. How do I know? Because it's carmine posting a link to Jimmy Dore. Therefore, there is a 100% chance that it's wrong.
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Lollys Master wrote:
George Ilie wrote:
Gaining control over a foreign country territory is not a win until there is peace and other countries recognize the annexation.
The age of territorial conquest is long time gone.
Powerful countries don't need conquests anymore. They just need to subdue other countries.
If Russia has occupied 20% it doesn't mean that it can use it in anyway.
Donbas has been in a state of war for 8 years. A province which is in state of war cannot thrive.
So besides spending their resources on those 20% of land, Russia can only steal resources like grains, steel and minerals.
The best thing for Russia to do is to find a convenient exit from the war.
Russia will never lose a war, even if it will take 100.000.000 lives. Pride over everything else there, especially when they fight the "rotten West". War will only end when Ukraine will legally give up Donbas and Crimea. Otherwise the entire shore of the Black Sea will be occupied and blocked off for as long as it takes. Considering Zelensky is unwilling to give in, we're facing a long term war, maybe even a decade.
A decade without Russian resources would mean the end of EU as a super power.
Aren't Russians and Ukrainians "one people" according to Tsar Putin? Therefore, by your "logic" Ukraine will never lose a war. But, even that twisted logic doesn't work, because the Russians / Soviets have already lost several wars, including the Cold War and in Afghanistan.
If this war is still going on in a decade, the four remaining Russian troops are going to be throwing rocks at the Ukrainian army, because they'll have long since run out of tanks and aircraft.
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Ben Wallace said Russia’s invasion had “faltered” and was “starting to fail” as 26 countries agreed to give more financial and military aid to Ukraine at a conference in Copenhagen on Thursday, co-hosted by Wallace and the Danish defence minister Morten Bodskov.
Ukraine is receiving military equipment and money from dozens of countries. Russia is receiving nothing from no one. clearly Putin did not factor this into his plans.
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carmine9 wrote:
Ukrainians fleeing Ukraine to Russian held territories.
You know, because things are going so well for Ukraine.
More lies from the king of proven liars.
Oh and a proven racist.
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Euro Man 1 wrote:
Ben Wallace said Russia’s invasion had “faltered” and was “starting to fail” as 26 countries agreed to give more financial and military aid to Ukraine at a conference in Copenhagen on Thursday, co-hosted by Wallace and the Danish defence minister Morten Bodskov.
Ukraine is receiving military equipment and money from dozens of countries. Russia is receiving nothing from no one. clearly Putin did not factor this into his plans.
Haven't we been told that Ukraine is winning from day one?
And now we are told Russia is "starting to fail" and you still can't see we have been lied to?
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carmine9 wrote:
Euro Man 1 wrote:
Ben Wallace said Russia’s invasion had “faltered” and was “starting to fail” as 26 countries agreed to give more financial and military aid to Ukraine at a conference in Copenhagen on Thursday, co-hosted by Wallace and the Danish defence minister Morten Bodskov.
Ukraine is receiving military equipment and money from dozens of countries. Russia is receiving nothing from no one. clearly Putin did not factor this into his plans.
Haven't we been told that Ukraine is winning from day one?
And now we are told Russia is "starting to fail" and you still can't see we have been lied to?
No. We haven't. We've been told that the Russian military has been systematically failing to achieve their objectives on their intended timescale and has been suffering an unsustainable number of losses in both manpower and equipment. For the last 6+ months, Ukraine has been preventing Russia from winning. In many ways, that's a huge victory for Ukraine, but it's not winning. Ukraine will not have "won" until every Russian invader is driven back across the pre-2014 borders.
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carmine9 Going back to your faulty claims regarding the validity of the referendum in Crimea, you never responded to the post asking about your understanding that according to article 73 of the 1996 Constitution of Ukraine and article 3 of the 2012 Ukrainian law “On all-Ukrainian referendum”, territorial changes can only be approved via a referendum where all the citizens of Ukraine are allowed to vote, including those that do not reside in Crimea? When this point was brought up you responded "propaganda" which doesn't make any sense. So, please explain why this clearly unconstitutional referendum was valid? Or, do you not believe in constitutional rights?
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I'm sure the Ukrainians have thought about it, but if they were able to blow up
the bridge to Crimea that Putin invested years and billions into, that would be a huge victory. It's a massive bridge so maybe they'd have trouble destroying the entire thing,
but even just to cause it to fracture would essentially cut off Crimea.
That would piss off Putin big time because he's warned them about touching that bridge.
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