It's a FACT that it's easier to get people who already know those runners from high school to watch their college meets than it is to get random people to watch random international athletes in the NCAA, no matter how good those international athletes are.
Everyone in New Jersey had a story about how they raced Sydney McLaughlin or they got a picture with her at a meet. Do you think those fans are more likely to watch NCAA's to see Sydney run, or do you think they are more likely to watch NCAA's to see Julien Alfred run (who is from St. Lucia and is a Olympic Gold Medalist) when they have no idea of Julian Alfred is????
It doesn't have to be distance. There's a reason why Quincy Wilson is 100x more popular than Christopher Morales-Williams who literally broke a world record in the NCAA (but is from Canada).
Seems like they need to have two different ncaa meets. One for the local kids that the fans can relate to and one for the fans that only care about elite performances and don’t care who produces them or from where.
Yeah just when Americans have finally figured out how to compete at the world level against the likes of kenya, Ethiopia, etc. you want us to set ourselves back 20 years? You really want us to go back to the 90s were we thought 50 miles a week was mileage and running 13:20 for 5k meant something. Where only 1 US man broke 13 for 5k and we thought he was a God.
No, get the tampon out your ass and stop crying because competing in the NCAA is a privilege it’s not gonna be handed to anyone. Sure, should we try to stop a 27 year old from competing in the NCAA absolutely. But you can’t sit here and act like having internationals in the system hasn’t been great for US running. Besides, tell me which top international runners competed in the NCAA….. exactly. Jacob? Girma? Aregawi? No.
who has the top 5k time in the world this year? Grant Mf fisher. End of discussion
Seems like they need to have two different ncaa meets. One for the local kids that the fans can relate to and one for the fans that only care about elite performances and don’t care who produces them or from where.
Yeah just when Americans have finally figured out how to compete at the world level against the likes of kenya, Ethiopia, etc. you want us to set ourselves back 20 years? You really want us to go back to the 90s were we thought 50 miles a week was mileage and running 13:20 for 5k meant something. Where only 1 US man broke 13 for 5k and we thought he was a God.
No, get the tampon out your ass and stop crying because competing in the NCAA is a privilege it’s not gonna be handed to anyone. Sure, should we try to stop a 27 year old from competing in the NCAA absolutely. But you can’t sit here and act like having internationals in the system hasn’t been great for US running. Besides, tell me which top international runners competed in the NCAA….. exactly. Jacob? Girma? Aregawi? No.
who has the top 5k time in the world this year? Grant Mf fisher. End of discussion
Lmao buddy, my post was sarcastic and making fun of how people are saying they’d prefer slower performances as long as the athletes are Americans that the fans can relate to. We are in the same page. The best athletes deserve to compete at the highest levels
Tough to live in that area with that salary. Financial best practices say not to spend more than 30% of income on rent/mortage. Lets say you made the most listed ~58000, that would be about $1500 a month...good luck finding something reasonable there for that. Hope whoever takes it is either single and can live like it or has a spouse that makes a lot.
Yeah just when Americans have finally figured out how to compete at the world level against the likes of kenya, Ethiopia, etc. you want us to set ourselves back 20 years? You really want us to go back to the 90s were we thought 50 miles a week was mileage and running 13:20 for 5k meant something. Where only 1 US man broke 13 for 5k and we thought he was a God.
No, get the tampon out your ass and stop crying because competing in the NCAA is a privilege it’s not gonna be handed to anyone. Sure, should we try to stop a 27 year old from competing in the NCAA absolutely. But you can’t sit here and act like having internationals in the system hasn’t been great for US running. Besides, tell me which top international runners competed in the NCAA….. exactly. Jacob? Girma? Aregawi? No.
who has the top 5k time in the world this year? Grant Mf fisher. End of discussion
Your arguments don't even make sense. You claim the only reason America is so competitive now is because internationals compete in the NCAA, but then how did Jakob, Girma, and Aregawi get so fast?
Which top international athletes competed in the NCAA? Kerr, Arop, Mo Ahmed, Jess Hull, Georgia Bell.
Do you want to include other events? Julien Alfred, De Grasse, Camryn Rogers, Roje Stona, Leo Neugebauer, Ricketts, Pinnock, Alekna, Lindon Victor, Rajindra Campbell, Alysha Newman, Anderson Peters, Camacho-Quinn. Do you even know who half of those athletes are?
It's a FACT that it's easier to get people who already know those runners from high school to watch their college meets than it is to get random people to watch random international athletes in the NCAA, no matter how good those international athletes are.
Everyone in New Jersey had a story about how they raced Sydney McLaughlin or they got a picture with her at a meet. Do you think those fans are more likely to watch NCAA's to see Sydney run, or do you think they are more likely to watch NCAA's to see Julien Alfred run (who is from St. Lucia and is a Olympic Gold Medalist) when they have no idea of Julian Alfred is????
It doesn't have to be distance. There's a reason why Quincy Wilson is 100x more popular than Christopher Morales-Williams who literally broke a world record in the NCAA (but is from Canada).
Seems like they need to have two different ncaa meets. One for the local kids that the fans can relate to and one for the fans that only care about elite performances and don’t care who produces them or from where.
Tough to live in that area with that salary. Financial best practices say not to spend more than 30% of income on rent/mortage. Lets say you made the most listed ~58000, that would be about $1500 a month...good luck finding something reasonable there for that. Hope whoever takes it is either single and can live like it or has a spouse that makes a lot.
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Yeah just when Americans have finally figured out how to compete at the world level against the likes of kenya, Ethiopia, etc. you want us to set ourselves back 20 years? You really want us to go back to the 90s were we thought 50 miles a week was mileage and running 13:20 for 5k meant something. Where only 1 US man broke 13 for 5k and we thought he was a God.
No, get the tampon out your ass and stop crying because competing in the NCAA is a privilege it’s not gonna be handed to anyone. Sure, should we try to stop a 27 year old from competing in the NCAA absolutely. But you can’t sit here and act like having internationals in the system hasn’t been great for US running. Besides, tell me which top international runners competed in the NCAA….. exactly. Jacob? Girma? Aregawi? No.
who has the top 5k time in the world this year? Grant Mf fisher. End of discussion
That's the dumbest argument I've ever seen. Cole Hocker's biggest competition in the NCAA was Americans Cooper Teare and Yared Nuguse. To imply Hocker wouldn't have been Olympic Champion in 2024 without internationals in the NCAA is idiotic!
How would it be bad for U.S. running if Grant Fisher started his pro career making $100,000 dollars per year MORE as a 5x national champion instead of a 1x champion (losing to Australian Morgan McDonald several times).
You can't argue that racing McDonald prepared him for pro racing because it still took Grant 5 years before he got a medal in the Olympics. Those 5 years racing pros helped him get to that level.
Rono Drill — 100m quick, 100m easy Intensity — 100m @ 3K-800m effort, 100m easy Recovery — varies Exertion — 7/10
Context & Details This is one of my go-to workouts in the early season, or preparation period, for 800m runners. It’s essentially an on-track fartlek. Old-timers call this session “Jog-the-Turns-Stride-the-Straights.” I named it the Rono Drill after famed late-1970s/early-1980s world record holder Henry Rono. Call it whatever you want, what matters is it works. I’ve found this workout to be very effective at advancing general fitness, aerobic capacity and power, resistance to fatigue, general lactate-threshold, and running economy for the half-miler. I classify it as a general speed-endurance session, with more of an endurance focus. Doing this early in the training year sets the stage for much faster and difficult speed- endurance workouts in the heart of the season, or specific period of preparation. It could be done off track, but most 800m runners I’ve coached like working out on the track, plus the stable surface allows them to get a better kinetic return with each step. The definition of “quick” is purposely open-ended. The only guidance I offer is “quick” is somewhere between 3K and date 800m pace effort. The same goes for the “easy” 100m. “Easy” can be anywhere from a walk/jog to a brisk tempo. With fartleks, empowering the runner to atuo-regulate effort is important. It allows them to listen to their body more accurately and get the most out of the session, without worry about spilts. Many runners I’ve coached come to enjoy this session precisely because it is unburdened by the stopwatch. Depending on the maturity of the 800m runner, I typically start off with 2 - 4 sets of 3 laps of 100m quick/100m easy. Half-milers I coach do this workout weekly for about 10 weeks. Progressed is advanced in a few ways: The pace of both the “quick” and “easy” 100m speeds up. The overall volume grows to 6-8 laps and 2-3 sets. The rest interval between sets shortens. You don’t need to take splits ever 100m. Instead, just record the time for however long an entire set is. Then seek to track fitness improvement by advancing the global time for each set upon future reruns of the workout. This will focus the runner on improving both the “quick” and “easy” 100m segments concurrently, rather than only one. After 10 straight weeks of this session (I usually do it at the start of a training week on Mondays) two outcomes should result: The 800m running will be very happy to retire this workout for the season. And, more importantly, the runner will have a solid foundation of general speed-endurance fitness and be ready to tackle any ensuring specific endurance work.