Official LRC President Joseph R Biden Thread

Ghost of Disco Gary wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Biden would have destroyed Nikki Haley...absolutely destroyed her. It it super hard to beat an incumbent. It is even harder when there's not a recession and the stock market is up and the unemployment rate is still historically low. Now, Trumpers, don't spew that Biden had nothing to do with any of that good stuff. It doesn't matter for voters in general. Too much of the GOP (and other Americans too to a lesser degree) will never vote for a woman. And, when she's a brown woman, even fewer will. Just fact.

Now, Trump lost as an incumbent, but he had two major things going against him...MAJOR scandal (impeached TWICE!) and then the very poor economy at the time due to the pandemic (just came out of a recession very close to the election). Again Trumpers, don't say he had nothing to do with that. It doesn't matter. People, ESPECIALLY the all important independent voters, vote based on how things are currently, no matter the cause.

So, are you saying that Trump has a ZERO percent chance of winning? Put it out there for the record please.

Flagpole wrote:

Ghost of Disco Gary wrote:

So, are you saying that Trump has a ZERO percent chance of winning? Put it out there for the record please.

Nope. Trump has a chance, but it will require a very perfect storm. If we just look at the personal qualities of the two, the preference of Americans, and there is no monumental event between now and election day, then yes, Trump has no shot to win.

Where Trump has a shot is if...Biden dies or Biden has a debilitating stroke or some other such thing that actually renders him incapacitated (not this fever dream of yours that he has dementia). Beyond Biden dying or being incapaciated, there would have to be a TON of bad things happen before election day for Trump to win...we'd have to be in a deep recession, and/or involved in a very unpopular war (not just providing aid), or some sort of HUGE military failure, like a dirty bomb going off in the US or some other such HUGE thing. Or, aliens from another planet could come down here and force us to vote for Trump.

So, other than the exceptional things I mentioned, yes, Trump has no shot to win. He has less support than he did the last time he ran for President, and YES, Trump actually lost in 2020. While Trump won his primary elections, he didn't do so hot for a former President who still has loads of morons worshipping him. A good portion of conservatives have said they will never vote for Trump (even many who did so before), and even more have said they will not if he's a convicted felon, which he very will might be before election day.

So, to summarize...Trump has no shot to win unless there is an exceptional circumstance along the lines of what I mentioned above.

hunter wheres the blow wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Nope. Trump has a chance, but it will require a very perfect storm. If we just look at the personal qualities of the two, the preference of Americans, and there is no monumental event between now and election day, then yes, Trump has no shot to win.

Where Trump has a shot is if...Biden dies or Biden has a debilitating stroke or some other such thing that actually renders him incapacitated (not this fever dream of yours that he has dementia). Beyond Biden dying or being incapaciated, there would have to be a TON of bad things happen before election day for Trump to win...we'd have to be in a deep recession, and/or involved in a very unpopular war (not just providing aid), or some sort of HUGE military failure, like a dirty bomb going off in the US or some other such HUGE thing. Or, aliens from another planet could come down here and force us to vote for Trump.

So, other than the exceptional things I mentioned, yes, Trump has no shot to win. He has less support than he did the last time he ran for President, and YES, Trump actually lost in 2020. While Trump won his primary elections, he didn't do so hot for a former President who still has loads of morons worshipping him. A good portion of conservatives have said they will never vote for Trump (even many who did so before), and even more have said they will not if he's a convicted felon, which he very will might be before election day.

So, to summarize...Trump has no shot to win unless there is an exceptional circumstance along the lines of what I mentioned above.

Trump can definitely win. The economy doesn't actually have to be bad. People just have to feel like it's bad which they currently do.