Frank Meza 2:53:10 at LA Marathon (70 years old) unofficial time (just finished)

2017 wrote:

Not a troll. Obviously there's enough evidence out there now and the damage has been done. This is the icing though.

Links or STFU

Time to leave this dude alone. We get it, he's a cheat and has been completely discredited. Everyone in his life knows by now and his life will never be the same.

ohia wrote:

Time to leave this dude alone. We get it, he's a cheat and has been completely discredited. Everyone in his life knows by now and his life will never be the same.

One person can shut it down very quickly - Frank himself with a full admission, this makes any further evidence gathering and speculation fruitless.

It ain’t over. If it had been 1-2 races over 1-2 years, it might be over. This is the running equivalent of a serial killer with over a decade of meticulously planned and orchestrated level of cheating. And we haven’t even explored the triathlons...

Roderick Powell wrote:

https://www.runnersworld.com/runners-stories/a23742988/70-year-old-woman-sets-marathon-record/

She could dust Frank by the looks of her.

1406636962 is the number of seconds from 1st Janmuary 1970, so

12:29:22 on 29th July 2014

ohia wrote:

Time to leave this dude alone. We get it, he's a cheat and has been completely discredited. Everyone in his life knows by now and his life will never be the same.

I agree in part, especially as this pertains to any kind of gloating about what's happening. And no matter how much Mr. Meza has been responsible for inviting further scrutiny, we all can be better and take the high road, especially if we say we're motivated by a sense of justice. I'd think we'd all want to avoid being cruel.

But then, I can't really say I fault any posters who might be looking at other results and taking part in some crowdsourced sleuthing to refine their own methods and have a leg up if/when some other cheater comes along. The collaboration of doubler and deadesq and the contributions of many other posters have yielded some valuable insight that can help the integrity of the sport and support RDs in their work. And many say they want to restore the rightful places of runners in the other races. I don't think those are earth-shattering changes, as for Jacqueline Gareau, but it strikes me as a legit rationale. Not my place to tell them when to stop a relatively dispassionate pursuit of facts.

kch wrote:

1406636962 is the number of seconds from 1st Janmuary 1970, so

12:29:22 on 29th July 2014

Wasn't the 2014 SF Marathon on July 27th? Or is that the date photos were posted?

ohia wrote:

Time to leave this dude alone. We get it, he's a cheat and has been completely discredited. Everyone in his life knows by now and his life will never be the same.

still some work left. the phoenix marathon for example has to dq this guy. the „meza team“ continues to promote frank, as if he were a superb runner. still no official statement from loyola high school. derek has mentioned that la marathon is not answering his mails as if he did something wrong and not frank.

ohia wrote:

Time to leave this dude alone. We get it, he's a cheat and has been completely discredited. Everyone in his life knows by now and his life will never be the same.

Phoenix is the most important DQ. It represents the fastest known time for 70 plus. (more respected now after what happened to Gene Dykes...with Gene losing the record not to the course itself being ineligible in any way shape or form....but the event itself not following a process of being sanctioned) Though, as Gene is quick to point out, he bears the responsibility for not knowing that requirement and verifying it. SO, as long as Frank Meza will not give up his Phoenix result, he should NOT be left alone. (as far as his running is concerned) After all FM could just self DQ Phoenix.

Page 80 addressed Frank cheating at tris.

ohia wrote:

Time to leave this dude alone. We get it, he's a cheat and has been completely discredited. Everyone in his life knows by now and his life will never be the same.

Hmm. Similar short posts like this one with similar "time to move on" themes have been posted in the past few days.

Frank has been outed, but the FoFs (Friends of Frank) who enabled this have so far gotten a pass. I suspect that they are in full damage control mode right now, including making posts like this one.

Whether he had an accomplice at the race or not, it's clear that lots of people close to Frank knew he was cheating. It's possible that some of these people have had a long-term vested interest in condoning, rather than reporting, this lapse in ethical behavior.

This won't be over until those enablers have been outed.

For what it's worth, we already have a good idea who you are. You can either throw Frank under the bus now or you can get dragged down with him. Your choice, but only if you act soon.

ExpertKipWatcher wrote:

2017 wrote:

Not a troll. Obviously there's enough evidence out there now and the damage has been done. This is the icing though.

Links or STFU

See a “familiar” name?

Where is Frank's D-tag in the 2014 SF marathon? In his hands with what appears to be a lanyard? Odd place to "wear" it...

He does appear tired... Too much biking? Hilarious, really.

lol, i dont know frank, im just along for the ride on the 300+ page thread.

Go ahead and out the old brah, I wasnt aware that the Phoenix result was the last one needing a DQ and where the 70+ WR was. Carry on if that is the case. Just stating the obvious that his whole life is ruined (albeit self-inflicted).

2017 wrote:

See a “familiar” name?

No and I can play "who can be the most obtuse?" all day long.

Bike, swimming and running cheat: There was so much discovered in the last few weeks in the marathons I forgot all about the Triathlons. Thanks for the reminder. I thought a few weeks ago this thread was dying instead it really exploded.

2017 wrote:

https://www.runraceresults.com/Secure/RaceResults.cfm?ID=RCLF2017

See a “familiar” name?

Why is this poster being so strange and vague?