This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
2) You need to rethink this. VAERS has reported more adverse events from the covid vaccine in the past 46 months than all other vaccines in its cumulative 32 year history.
The CDC covid tracker reports 623M covid vaccinations given so far. Meanwhile, since 2000 (past 22) years, between 100M - 150M influenza vaccinations have been given each year. That's 2-3 billion influenza vaccinations... several times more flu vaccinations than covid vaccinations.
Yet there have been more reported AEs from the covid vaccine than all other vaccines combined in the 30-ish year history of VAERS.
The median age at death with Covid was over 80.
And in very poor health.
Bro is claiming that the avg Covid death had 15+ years of life left.
Does he think at all?
Bro?? You're nearly 70 and you're calling people Bro,grow up idiot.
2) You need to rethink this. VAERS has reported more adverse events from the covid vaccine in the past 46 months than all other vaccines in its cumulative 32 year history.
The CDC covid tracker reports 623M covid vaccinations given so far. Meanwhile, since 2000 (past 22) years, between 100M - 150M influenza vaccinations have been given each year. That's 2-3 billion influenza vaccinations... several times more flu vaccinations than covid vaccinations.
Yet there have been more reported AEs from the covid vaccine than all other vaccines combined in the 30-ish year history of VAERS.
Covid death rates are higher among Republicans than Democrats, mounting evidence shows
You know how dumb Democrats are?
So dumb that their "proof case" for a conservative Darwin Award is Herman Cain.
Herman Cain, a 74 year old who had already beaten off Stage IV cancer.
Meanwhile teens and twenty year old college/pro athletes are dropping dead from the "vaccines." And in same page, the link you're trying to push back and out of site:
Just when you thought the Covid-deranged establishment medical community couldn’t lose any more credibility, the formerly reputable medical journal ‘Nature Communications’ comes along and says ‘hold my beer.’ Despite a growin...
The never vaxxed are being included in vaxxed numbers to make the vaxxed population look healthier. The vaxxed are being put in never vaxxed category to hide the sickness and death among the vaxxed.
Then you doing your troll job show up with your conservatives being "killed of by":
The headline on the Washington Post on Saturday read: Pregnancy complications spiked during the pandemic. No one knows exactly why. ** In August 2021 The Gateway Pundit reported: CDC Urges All Pregnant or Breastfeeding Women...
On Saturday, a student-athlete at York College in Pennsylvania was found unresponsive in his room and was later pronounced dead, according to a statement released by the school. Andrew Ruehlicke, a junior sport management maj...
York College requires its students and faculty to be fully vaccinated ensuring that everyone in a classroom is vaccinated, except the few with approved exemptions.
Those still vociferously defending the shots might as well be pharmaceutical shills at this point. It just doesn't make any sense, given the ever-increasing mountain of evidence. Some people, sadly, will stick their head in the sand until the very last minute. It's a combination of childlike naivete, severe ignorance, and irrational defense mechanism.
The anger against "anti-vaxxers" (who in most cases, are just thoughtful people who made a risk-benefit analysis) is palpable. Deep down, the highly injected know they were duped but project their frustration onto those who didn't fall for the lies, rather than on those who orchestrated the lies.
1) No vaccine is 100% effective? Weird hill to keep dying on...
2) I guess you could try to make this claim because it's the largest vaccination campaign ever so raw numbers might back you up? Per capita this is definitely not true... like so so far from it
3) The average COVID death had 15+ years of life left - death's door, yeah bro.
4) Nah, same process as any vaccine, just paid a lot of $ to speed it up.
2) You need to rethink this. VAERS has reported more adverse events from the covid vaccine in the past 46 months than all other vaccines in its cumulative 32 year history.
The CDC covid tracker reports 623M covid vaccinations given so far. Meanwhile, since 2000 (past 22) years, between 100M - 150M influenza vaccinations have been given each year. That's 2-3 billion influenza vaccinations... several times more flu vaccinations than covid vaccinations.
Yet there have been more reported AEs from the covid vaccine than all other vaccines combined in the 30-ish year history of VAERS.
VAERS is mandatory for post-COVID vaccination events - for the first time ever. There was a coordinated effort to track post-approval adverse events - for the first time ever. VAERS isn't a very informative tool if the reporting requirements change all the time.
VAERS is mandatory for post-COVID vaccination events - for the first time ever. There was a coordinated effort to track post-approval adverse events - for the first time ever. VAERS isn't a very informative tool if the reporting requirements change all the time.
Can you provide some source for that claim? That's something has changed recently, and is limited to the Covid "vaccines"? Because the government website's page for FAQ: What are healthcare providers required to report to Vaers? makes no distinction between Covid "vaccines" and older vaccines (regardless of legal requirements, most hospitals just ignore VAERS reports because they take so much time to fill out, and some hospitals even go so far as saying adverse events don't exist ever and employees risk being fired).
Healthcare providers are required by law to report to VAERS: Any adverse event listed in the VAERS Table of Reportable Events Following Vaccination that occurs within the specified time period after vaccination An adverse event listed by the vaccine manufacturer as a contraindication to further doses of the vaccine
VAERS is mandatory for post-COVID vaccination events - for the first time ever. There was a coordinated effort to track post-approval adverse events - for the first time ever. VAERS isn't a very informative tool if the reporting requirements change all the time.
Can you provide some source for that claim? That's something has changed recently, and is limited to the Covid "vaccines"? Because the government website's page for FAQ: What are healthcare providers required to report to Vaers? makes no distinction between Covid "vaccines" and older vaccines (regardless of legal requirements, most hospitals just ignore VAERS reports because they take so much time to fill out, and some hospitals even go so far as saying adverse events don't exist ever and employees risk being fired).
Healthcare providers are required by law to report to VAERS: Any adverse event listed in the VAERS Table of Reportable Events Following Vaccination that occurs within the specified time period after vaccination An adverse event listed by the vaccine manufacturer as a contraindication to further doses of the vaccine
Yeah 2600, we need a source. Only from gateway pundit, substack, b!tchute, children's health defense, or any other right winger sanctioned source please.
Yeah 2600, we need a source. Only from gateway pundit, substack, b!tchute, children's health defense, or any other right winger sanctioned source please.
You made a claim, the first and only time I've seen this claim made, very notable since you'd think the vaxxers would've been using it every and always for almost two years, and the VAERS government website doesn't appear to back it up. Rather, than provide a government source you resort you trolling tactics here, which means, until you prove otherwise, that you've got nothing.
VAERS is mandatory for post-COVID vaccination events - for the first time ever. There was a coordinated effort to track post-approval adverse events - for the first time ever. VAERS isn't a very informative tool if the reporting requirements change all the time.
Can you provide some source for that claim? That's something has changed recently, and is limited to the Covid "vaccines"? Because the government website's page for FAQ: What are healthcare providers required to report to Vaers? makes no distinction between Covid "vaccines" and older vaccines (regardless of legal requirements, most hospitals just ignore VAERS reports because they take so much time to fill out, and some hospitals even go so far as saying adverse events don't exist ever and employees risk being fired).
Healthcare providers are required by law to report to VAERS: Any adverse event listed in the VAERS Table of Reportable Events Following Vaccination that occurs within the specified time period after vaccination An adverse event listed by the vaccine manufacturer as a contraindication to further doses of the vaccine
The reporting requirements for vaccines under EUA approval are more extensive than regular vaccine authorizations, but enhanced public scrutiny may be the bigger factor. There has not been anything comparable in magnitude to the Covid vaccine rollout since the dawn of the social media era.
Expanded reporting requirements and intense scrutiny of the hundreds of millions administered COVID-19 vaccine doses have driven record reporting of potential side effects to one of the government’s vaccine safety monitoring...
You know all three of you are arguing about two very different measures. Median is not mean. I’d probably say median is the better measure, but regardless…no wonder you guys still can’t agree on anything given that we are intentionally missing the point on middle school math terms.
You know all three of you are arguing about two very different measures. Median is not mean. I’d probably say median is the better measure, but regardless…no wonder you guys still can’t agree on anything given that we are intentionally missing the point on middle school math terms.
I had a old plot of Mean Age of Covid Death at hand, so I posted what I had. Here's a similar and current plot of Median Age of Covid Death generated from CDC age binned data.
Can you provide some source for that claim? That's something has changed recently, and is limited to the Covid "vaccines"? Because the government website's page for FAQ: What are healthcare providers required to report to Vaers? makes no distinction between Covid "vaccines" and older vaccines (regardless of legal requirements, most hospitals just ignore VAERS reports because they take so much time to fill out, and some hospitals even go so far as saying adverse events don't exist ever and employees risk being fired).
Healthcare providers are required by law to report to VAERS: Any adverse event listed in the VAERS Table of Reportable Events Following Vaccination that occurs within the specified time period after vaccination An adverse event listed by the vaccine manufacturer as a contraindication to further doses of the vaccine
Yeah 2600, we need a source. Only from gateway pundit, substack, b!tchute, children's health defense, or any other right winger sanctioned source please.
Classic. Demand a source and then refuse to accept any of dozens of sources that put the lie to the official narrative.
I want a source...just not one that proves me wrong.
You know all three of you are arguing about two very different measures. Median is not mean. I’d probably say median is the better measure, but regardless…no wonder you guys still can’t agree on anything given that we are intentionally missing the point on middle school math terms.
If we’re talking about total years of life lost in the country, mean is definitely the correct number. While I recognize that this is a very uncomfortable calculation, I certainly would say that a disease that cost 9 people five years of life and one person 25 years of life had a greater impact than a disease that caused 10 people to lose 6 years of life
You know all three of you are arguing about two very different measures. Median is not mean. I’d probably say median is the better measure, but regardless…no wonder you guys still can’t agree on anything given that we are intentionally missing the point on middle school math terms.
Median is not precisley equal in meaning to average or mean.
However, the two are not "very different measures". In typical distributions -- like the measure of Covid deaths -- they are usually quite close in value
My understanding is that the most recent studies of years of life lost used mean as is appropriate and then use multiple factors to try to estimate the number of years lost. That requires a mechanism of going through case by case, which frustratingly, means it is essentially impossible to check.
