ALBERTO SALAZAR BANNED FROM ATHLETICS FOR FOUR YEARS FOR DOPING VIOLATIONS

Dril wrote:

THE PANEL WROTE:

The Panel has taken pains to note that Respondent made unintentional mistakes that violated the rules, apparently motivated by his desire to provide the very best results and training for athletes under his care. Unfortunately, that desire clouded his judgment in some instances, when his usual focus on the rules appears to have lapsed.

I'm rapidly losing respect for most of the professional runners tweeting from their high horses. The finding was not that condemning yet everyone is acting like Salazar committed triple homicide. Wow. Get a grip people. One thing is clear: There are a lot of salty and jealous runners out there.

So you’re losing respect for those condemning a cheating coach as opposed to the cheating coach.

I'm assuming some athlete gets busted and then wants to rat his coach out? Smh

You...I like you.

Dril wrote:

Link wrote:

This was a plea deal. USADA and WADA have had the goods on Salazar for almost a decade now, but Nike's army of attorney's were able to delay sentencing. They could have continued to delay forever, most likely. The enforcement agencies were outmatched. Most likely, they simply wanted it off their plates and this was the best deal they could make. Salazar is done as a coach and Nike and their athletes escape penalty.

If you had asked me 10 years ago, who the bigger criminal was, Lance or Alberto I would have said Lance without hesitation. But now? I'd say it's Alberto. Lance only cheated for himself.

great story. too bad this is all in your head and conjecture and not supported by any facts.

I lived in Eugene back in the day and ran with and got to know many of the AW guys, including AlSal a little. He's been a cheat for 40 years. AW was Nike's response to the Eastern Block's doping program. It was a pharmacy. Nothing more, nothing less.

I haven't been on this site much the last few years. This news brought me back. Part of the reason (there are many....) why I don't come here anymore is that one LR's virtues is that it has outed cheaters - most famously Regina Jacobs. I stopped coming here and giving testimony, though, because the criminals who largely run T&F now have discovered that there are companies which employ people to spend all day on websites like this one, posing as regular users, but, really spinning bad news like this about Salazar. And that's a fact.

sadstate wrote:

Dril wrote:

I'm rapidly losing respect for most of the professional runners tweeting from their high horses. The finding was not that condemning yet everyone is acting like Salazar committed triple homicide. Wow. Get a grip people. One thing is clear: There are a lot of salty and jealous runners out there.

So you’re losing respect for those condemning a cheating coach as opposed to the cheating coach.

Nothing that came out is new from the last 5 years. If you hated Salazar before, you are going to hate him now. This includes most runners not in Nike stable and certainly the female runners. If you were on his side before, you’re probably still going to back him after this as there still isn’t a smoking gun in terms of peds.

This decision just didn’t have the outcome everyone was looking for. People wanted to see the illegal drugs or nothing at all. Instead we got that quote from the arbitrators praising Salazar for his attention and care but telling him he stepped over the line. I think that is the worst part about this. That quote just adds confusion.

In that case the Guardian report, which has taken the quote from the USADA report, is also wrong and they, too, are "one stupid sonavab*tch". Except no one is saying that. Except jerks like you. The words used above are those of the USADA and are unequivocal, as is the sanction. I appreciate that a sub-normal intelligence like yours doesn't grasp what this means. But keep your lips glued to Salazar's *rse, by all means. The sport really needs more doping apologists.

It's unfortunate that you have such a diminutive intellect to accompany your insufferably bloated ego. Your reading comprehension is unbelievably lacking. You can yell "orchestrating and facilitating prohibited doping conduct" as loud as you want, but it doesn't change the facts of the report (which for some inexplicable reason you refuse to read). It boggles the mind that you would have such strong opinions on a subject about which you know very little.

This investigation has taken 4 years, and in that time nothing new has been uncovered. There is no smoking gun. If sticking to the facts of the report (rather than wildly speculating based on incomplete information) makes one a shill or a doping apologist, so be it. Feel free to continue peddling this false narrative of Salazar promoting doping to his athletes. It only trivializes the wrongdoing that he actually committed, which I think is a real shame.

It didn’t add confusion to me. He broke the rules and after years of Nike lawyers delaying the ban it has finally been issued. This is worth celebrating.

The fact that this is the first thing you see on here is exactly why t&f is in a bad place. The fuggin WORLD championships are going on and this is the headline. Smh

After reading g the AL SAL cover-up sham doc . it is total BS. It is a blatant strategy to cheat . an d microdose . farah and Rupp can't be considered clean. At all

VroomVroom wrote:

The fact that this is the first thing you see on here is exactly why t&f is in a bad place. The fuggin WORLD championships are going on and this is the headline. Smh

I'm glad this gets headlines during the World Championships.

CON: It takes some attention away from great athletic performances happening now.

PRO: It embarrasses Salazar while he's out in the middle of his peers flaunting that he could be getting away with it.

VroomVroom wrote:

The fact that this is the first thing you see on here is exactly why t&f is in a bad place. The fuggin WORLD championships are going on and this is the headline. Smh

T&F has been in a bad place, heck, dead, since Ben Johnson.

This isn't over by a long shot, folks. Salazar released a statement indicating he and his lawyers will be appealing the decision. This ain't over. Also, the USADA reported that alleged violations were not of commission, only omission. This is KEY, and something that most of you retards on LetsRun will ignore because most of you are a bunch of vengeful asses.

This is pretty much a nail in the coffin that Ritz was on L-carnitine in his build-up to his resurgence at the USA 10k a few years back and that Rupp and Farah were on L-carnitine leading to their Olympic medals in the 10k. Good for Ritz being honest about it. Sad for Rupp and Farah to play along and ride out their careers subservient to the NOP machine.

You have to laugh at Salazar pulling the silver linings about his coaching out to quote while ignoring the specific claims that made him guilty. I'd have more respect for the guy if he came out and said that all those things happened as the result of a very slippery slope of competing in the sport that he never meant to go down, but the Mike Rossi level of his defense will continue to make him unlikable.

With Salazar gone, USA distance running will suffer.

You don't have to like him or agree with anything he's done to recognize this.

Now, the best place for promising American track and field runners to go is the Bowerman Track Club, a group who rarely talks to the media, has a reclusive coach, a stable of talented runners who are perennially injured, and amazing talents who only race once or twice a year.

At least with the NOP we had the opportunity to watch great runners race and train.

I think this will end up being a negative for American running, regardless of where you stand on the ethical side of the line.

And then consider how little we know about Kenyan and Ethiopian alleged doping and how the enforcement is almost non-existent.

Javman wrote:

...the USADA reported that alleged violations were not of commission, only omission. This is KEY, and something that most of you retards on LetsRun will ignore because most of you are a bunch of vengeful asses.

If you were more informed about the whole thing, then you would know that there is a he-said she-said between Dr. Brown's official records and the records of all his patients. They [allegedly] falsified records, but if all you have is a document in the hands of an athlete that might disagree, then you can't really prove much since there is a conflict. Ritz's testimony was in clear conflict with what Dr. Brown's office was proclaiming, but you don't hear it brought up here, which indicates they couldn't resolve what was what in that disagreement about what happened. The fact that they proved it with Magness shows that he must have kept much better records that were too difficult to compromise. Falsifying records is criminal, but the very act hides its own evidence.

typical speculation on Letsrun wrote:

With Salazar gone, USA distance running will suffer.

OR athletes like Ben True and Molly Huddle will get more recognition for pledging themselves to clean athletics, actually taking personal accountability for what goes in their bodies, and still putting forth fantastic results. The sport will be fine.

I'm late to the news party. I'll stop posting for a while. =/

typical speculation on Letsrun wrote:

With Salazar gone, USA distance running will suffer.

You don't have to like him or agree with anything he's done to recognize this.

Now, the best place for promising American track and field runners to go is the Bowerman Track Club, a group who rarely talks to the media, has a reclusive coach, a stable of talented runners who are perennially injured, and amazing talents who only race once or twice a year.

At least with the NOP we had the opportunity to watch great runners race and train.

I think this will end up being a negative for American running, regardless of where you stand on the ethical side of the line.

And then consider how little we know about Kenyan and Ethiopian alleged doping and how the enforcement is almost non-existent.

Yes, but it will also be much cleaner. T&F was considered great in my country when we had doped to the gills athletes winning medals. Is that the right way to compete in T&F? Since multiple doping cases, the sport has become cleaner but our athletes are not even close to compete on international level anymore.

All of NOP runners took something. It's impossible to be in connection with Salazar and all the meds and PEDs he has used and stored. Athletes get them offered, he says "it's fine, impossible to get caught, will be out of your body in few hours" or "it's just thyroid meds and L-carnitine, they can't test for thyroids and it's not illegal". Athletes take them, because they want to get faster and win. Hell, even hobby athletes do doping and don't even gain something for it - these elites don't just gain fame, status, wins, but also big money due to the wins and sponsor contracts. And since Salazar promised them it's safe, they think - why not!

Salazar was great at playing the doping agencies for fools. Himself, Dr Brown, and the entire Nike medical team were always 10 steps ahead of the doping agencies. They knew how to manipulate, and how to "outplay" the system.

And the defense of athletes? Come on, how many caught dopers openly admit it?? Everyone acts like a Kiprop, claiming innocence, never took something, always rejected Salazars offers, etc.. IF a coach is highly related with doping, chances are high that he is also using something on his athletes and not just on his own kid and low-talented runners as test subjects.

Shoebacca wrote:

This is pretty much a nail in the coffin that Ritz was on L-carnitine in his build-up to his resurgence at the USA 10k a few years back and that Rupp and Farah were on L-carnitine leading to their Olympic medals in the 10k. Good for Ritz being honest about it. Sad for Rupp and Farah to play along and ride out their careers subservient to the NOP machine.

Of course Rupp and Farah (and Ritz, and other NOP athletes) were all on L-carnitine. This has never really been in dispute.

L-carnitine is not a prohibited substance under the WADA code.

Magness received an infusion of L-carnitine that qualified as a prohibited method under the WADA code. The evidence did not establish that any other athletes received L-carnitine under a prohibited method.

Magness was classified as an athlete in the report. And Not coached by Salazar. Did he not commit a doping violation right there???