Official Brett Kavanaugh confirmation thread

I would like to see one piece of corroboration for any of Dr. Ford's claims or any of the other accusations against Kavanaugh. If this actually was a criminal proceeding, they wouldn't have even brought charges.

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

johnny99 wrote:

Simply not true.

Kavanaugh says it didn't happen.

Ford says it happened; Kavanaugh did it and Judge witnessed it.

Those are the only 3 who can potentially say first hand what happened in that room. The Republicans chose not to either send an FBI agent to speak with Judge or request Judge's testimony at the hearing. So of the 3 "who's" involved, only one has denied that it happened.

By the way, Leland Keyser did not deny that it happened; she actually said that she believed Ford's claim.

Not true. Leland Keyser, who characterized herself as a friend of Ford's, said through a lawyer that she "does not know Mr. Kavanaugh and she has no recollection of ever being at a party or gathering where he was present, with, or without, Dr. Ford.”

Leland Keyser did not deny that this sexual assault happened. You understand that her not recalling this party is a far cry from her denying that Kavanaugh assaulted Ford?

Anyway, you need to dig a little deeper:

Keyser said that she did not recall the party, but that she was close friends with Ford and that she believes Ford’s allegation.

johnny99 wrote:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Not true. Leland Keyser, who characterized herself as a friend of Ford's, said through a lawyer that she "does not know Mr. Kavanaugh and she has no recollection of ever being at a party or gathering where he was present, with, or without, Dr. Ford.”

Leland Keyser did not deny that this sexual assault happened. You understand that her not recalling this party is a far cry from her denying that Kavanaugh assaulted Ford?

Anyway, you need to dig a little deeper:

Keyser said that she did not recall the party, but that she was close friends with Ford and that she believes Ford’s allegation.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/lawyers-for-christine-blasey-ford-say-she-has-accepted-senate-judiciary-committees-request-to-testify-against-kavanaugh/2018/09/22/e8199c6a-be8f-11e8-8792-78719177250f_story.html?utm_term=.653776092d00

I guess reading comprehension is not your strong suit. It doesn’t matter what you think since Kavanaugh will be confirmed.

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

johnny99 wrote:

Simply not true.

Kavanaugh says it didn't happen.

Ford says it happened; Kavanaugh did it and Judge witnessed it.

Those are the only 3 who can potentially say first hand what happened in that room. The Republicans chose not to either send an FBI agent to speak with Judge or request Judge's testimony at the hearing. So of the 3 "who's" involved, only one has denied that it happened.

By the way, Leland Keyser did not deny that it happened; she actually said that she believed Ford's claim.

Not true. Leland Keyser, who characterized herself as a friend of Ford's, said through a lawyer that she "does not know Mr. Kavanaugh and she has no recollection of ever being at a party or gathering where he was present, with, or without, Dr. Ford.”

Keyser didn't deny that Kavanaugh sexually assaulted Ford. You understand that not recalling being at a party is a far cry from denying that Kavanaugh tried to rape Ford at that party.

Anyway, not only does Keyser not deny this attack, she believes that it did happen:

Keyser said that she did not recall the party, but that she was close friends with Ford and that she believes Ford’s allegation.

Your looking for a moderate position. Roe v. Wade is chum in the water for low I.Q. voters. Kavanaugh is another extreme corporate hack. The four men on the political right on U.S.S.C. always defend corporations when it comes down to the interests of a harmed man, woman or child versus a US corporation (except Justice John Roberts that one time). Corporate law is too complex for over 90% of US citizens, so we discuss Roe v. Wade. Do we as a society benefit from a fifth corporate hack on US Supreme Court? That's the question.

What difference does it make? If her mother believes her story, is that evidence or corroboration? Ghost of Igloi winning this argument. I hope he's confirmed for the sake of the country and this type of circus, mob justice, should never happen again.

She's friends with her...do you expect her to say she doesn't believe her friend? That's a far cry from Keyser offering any proof of anything. Kavanaugh has plenty of friend who believe him as well. That's the problem with this allegation. It's he said - she said with absolutely no proof of what she said. FFS she can't even pin down the exact month/year this supposedly life changing even happened. It should be easy to think back and say oh, yes, that fall starting back to school i was so devastated that my grades suffered, and that's why i got that C in 10th grade Biology or whatever. I'd also like to know who the mystery person was who drove her home. It's not like there were a lot of options. If this happened then someone would be able to corroborate her story. Without that, especially 30-plus years later, that's no better then me saying Wejo cheated at a race in high school. I saw him cut a corner. I didn't tell anyone about it until a few years ago...I think he should have letsrun taken away from him.

Do these people just not read or listen to the testimony or news? Clearly somethings they post as “true” simply are not. Hard to reconcile some these posts with normal thinking.

I definitely see your point, but I still believe that Roe vs Wade is the bigger factor that puts people in one camp or the other. The vast majority of Evangelical Christians voted for a man who represents the polar opposite of Christian morality, primarily because he promised to only appoint judges who would vote to overturn Roe. And many Senate Democrats are on record as saying that they will not vote to confirm any judge who doesn’t commit to upholding Roe.

Now of course I understand that a lot of politicians and the big donors who fund their campaigns don’t actually give a rat’s posterior one way or the other about Roe, but just milk the issue for all it’s worth when it serves their purpose.

Looks increasingly likely Kavanaugh will be confirmed:

https://mobile.twitter.com/elainaplott/status/1045478279220797440?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Looks increasingly likely Kavanaugh will be confirmed:

https://mobile.twitter.com/elainaplott/status/1045478279220797440?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Says the clown who predicted a stock market crash about 5 years ago. Idiot.

While I would bet Ford is telling the truth, at this point Kavanaugh should be ineligible for confirmation on the SCOTUS regardless of whether he did or did not commit the sexual assaults he is accused of. He lied under oath today about his drinking to excess, his black outs (which he has publicly admitted to and others have corroborated), and the meaning of the terms “boof” and “Devil’s Triangle.” His refusal to welcome an FBI inquiry into the incident, which would bring his old friend Mark Judge, currently AWOL in Delaware, into play, is also telling. But the lying under oath is disqualifying.

N. Gorsuch wrote:

I would like to see one piece of corroboration for any of Dr. Ford's claims or any of the other accusations against Kavanaugh. If this actually was a criminal proceeding, they wouldn't have even brought charges.

Criminal attorneys will tell you, "Pick the right judge in a criminal case, then you have already determined the outcome." Republicans controlled the process. The answers to your questions would have occurred with a new FBI investigation which would have included interviewing Mark Judge.

Those who support Kavanaugh have their reasons. Some want a pro-corporate judge on the court. Some are concerned with Roe v. Wade. Those two groups have logical reasons for wanting Kavanaugh on court.

The third group concerns me. The more women who come forward the more passionate are some Kavanaugh supports. I see them as women haters. Kavanaugh has really gotten support on letsrun from the John Wayne Gacy/Jeffrey Dahmer wing of the G.O.P. The extreme women haters of G.O.P.

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Reith wrote:

This actually is a reasonably good litmus test for intelligence. IF you believe Brett Kavanaugh you are not gifted with high intelligence. Of course those who disagree by definition are not aware of it.

No, you are a useful idiot. The Democrats need voters like you.

stfu and go back to your troll hole. You are not a good person.

Reith wrote:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Looks increasingly likely Kavanaugh will be confirmed:

https://mobile.twitter.com/elainaplott/status/1045478279220797440?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Says the clown who predicted a stock market crash about 5 years ago. Idiot.

Like Dr. Ford’s allegation, there is no evidence to support yours.

So who’s the clown Bozo ??

stfu dumb troll wrote:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

No, you are a useful idiot. The Democrats need voters like you.

stfu and go back to your troll hole. You are not a good person.

Can’t handle the heat punk?

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

stfu dumb troll wrote:

stfu and go back to your troll hole. You are not a good person.

Can’t handle the heat punk?

You deserve the shlt you get on this forum and then some. Not a good person.

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Reith wrote:

Says the clown who predicted a stock market crash about 5 years ago. Idiot.

Like Dr. Ford’s allegation, there is no evidence to support yours.

So who’s the clown Bozo ??

No wonder you would orally service Kavanaugh...you are both LIARS.

Just Wondering Aloud wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

You guys haven't listened enough. Avenatti says his client was naive and did not know those women were being assaulted until later when it happened to her...that's when she put it together. He says she has corroborating witnesses. Also, these were just house parties...parties where both high school and college kids attended. Not that uncommon in the days in a state where the drinking age just moved out of high school to college.

Do you never hear a story that ends up being true that is hard to believe? Girls and women reported stuff like that even less then than the do now.

Could you ever imagine that Bill Cosby would rape up to 60 women? Well, weird crazy stuff happens.

Why do you believe this is true?

Why do you believe it isn't? She is a credible witness/victim. They apparently have corroborating witnesses. She has nothing to gain and lots to lose...she's also the third woman in a short period of time to give her name. More to come? Perhaps. Let's have a real investigation...might be forced anyway as Avenatti might file charges.