This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
Yes. Why my wife’s quadruple-jabbed best friend got sick, had to go on Paxlovid two weeks ago, & now has Covid again. Phew, good thing she’s jabbed. Why do I keep hearing this same story over and over in our closest circles? Only the unjabbed aren’t getting sick.
You natural immunity deniers are so fukking Pollyannish with your “vaccine won” narrative. As if this fight is over.
Sounds like her natural immunity didn’t last very long.
What natural immunity, lol? Sounds more like immunological imprinting from the original jabs, and, perhaps, an undermining of her adaptive immunity.
The dogma and lack of introspection is strong. So, these unique lymphomas are likely caused by the mRNA shots, but, we have no “proof,” they are likely “very rare,” and the big benefits of the shots “far outweigh” the minute risks.
For every cohort and every age group, regardless of risk!! No nuance here, just a ubiquitous dogma.
The dogma and lack of introspection is strong. So, these unique lymphomas are likely caused by the mRNA shots, but, we have no “proof,” they are likely “very rare,” and the big benefits of the shots “far outweigh” the minute risks.
For every cohort and every age group, regardless of risk!! No nuance here, just a ubiquitous dogma.
Ride side effects do happen. Vaccinating cancer patients is already a controversial move...
This story isn't saying anything like you want it to. I suspect you just read the headline.
Look how the patient talks about people like you: When I told Michel about these online posts, he shook his head in disappointment. “They’re looking for anything to support their crazy vision,” he said. “It makes me sad about the world in which we are living.” That’s not to say he was surprised. Michel knew, for instance, that medical experts have dispelled false rumors about vaccines infecting people with COVID-19. He told me that he’d obsessed over getting the tone of the manuscript exactly right, so as not to fuel vaccine skepticism. He was careful, for example, to describe the vaccine as possibly “inducing” the “progression” of his cancer—rather than “causing” it to surface. “I spent hours and hours,” he said. “I’ve never spent so much time on details in a paper.”
The dogma and lack of introspection is strong. So, these unique lymphomas are likely caused by the mRNA shots, but, we have no “proof,” they are likely “very rare,” and the big benefits of the shots “far outweigh” the minute risks.
For every cohort and every age group, regardless of risk!! No nuance here, just a ubiquitous dogma.
Ride side effects do happen. Vaccinating cancer patients is already a controversial move...
This story isn't saying anything like you want it to. I suspect you just read the headline.
Nope, read the entire article. My second sentence should’ve made that obvious, and, being that it’s in “The Atlantic,” of course we are going to expect to get a certain “coloring” of, well “it’s rare, it’s an outlier, we couldn’t have caught these in RCTs, nothing really to see hear,” move along. Dogma. But, from the last paragraph and the doctor’s own mouth:
“Around the time of his February follow-up, Michel received a message from a doctor who had read his self-referential case report. The doctor’s mother had been diagnosed with the same subtype of lymphoma that Michel has following a COVID booster shot. More recently, he got an email from a woman whose sister had been vaccinated and received that diagnosis the following month. Again, these could be coincidences. Or maybe they are the second and third data points in a growing set. The possible connection between Michel’s lymphoma flare and his COVID-19 vaccination occupies much of his thinking these days. “If it exists, it must be very rare,” he said. But he doesn’t regret going public with his case. “I’m still convinced it was the right thing to do.””
Again, nuance with these jabs and who we administered them to was quite achievable and necessary. But not if you were stuck in dogma like our public health authorities.
Lol Alex Jones simping for carmine now. He really has no friends.
Guys the vax won. You lost. It’s over.
Yes. Why my wife’s quadruple-jabbed best friend got sick, had to go on Paxlovid two weeks ago, & now has Covid again. Phew, good thing she’s jabbed. Why do I keep hearing this same story over and over in our closest circles? Only the unjabbed aren’t getting sick.
You natural immunity deniers are so fukking Pollyannish with your “vaccine won” narrative. As if this fight is over.
The vaccine won. All you can do is make stuff up that, uh, contradicts your whole argument. Someone getting COVID 2 times in a few weeks in evidence that natural immunity is quite variable and often poor. Some people have crap immune systems which is why limiting transmission is important (ie vaccines which are proven to limit Omicron spread). Your Guzzling of snake oil and creative writing exercises do have the same effect, I’m sorry to say.
Ride side effects do happen. Vaccinating cancer patients is already a controversial move...
This story isn't saying anything like you want it to. I suspect you just read the headline.
Nope, read the entire article. My second sentence should’ve made that obvious, and, being that it’s in “The Atlantic,” of course we are going to expect to get a certain “coloring” of, well “it’s rare, it’s an outlier, we couldn’t have caught these in RCTs, nothing really to see hear,” move along. Dogma. But, from the last paragraph and the doctor’s own mouth:
“Around the time of his February follow-up, Michel received a message from a doctor who had read his self-referential case report. The doctor’s mother had been diagnosed with the same subtype of lymphoma that Michel has following a COVID booster shot. More recently, he got an email from a woman whose sister had been vaccinated and received that diagnosis the following month. Again, these could be coincidences. Or maybe they are the second and third data points in a growing set. The possible connection between Michel’s lymphoma flare and his COVID-19 vaccination occupies much of his thinking these days. “If it exists, it must be very rare,” he said. But he doesn’t regret going public with his case. “I’m still convinced it was the right thing to do.””
Again, nuance with these jabs and who we administered them to was quite achievable and necessary. But not if you were stuck in dogma like our public health authorities.
The doc himself and all his collaborators stridently state that this case is not reason to dial back the vaccine recommendations. I guess you know better (or perhaps your advising naturopath).
What they do stress is strong pharmacovigilance, which is something vaccine proponents have always supported — and is being excecuted by private companies and public health groups around the world.
There is little to no vigilance around the mass quantities of supplements you consume daily and encourage others too. I guess nuance is a one way street and not necessary for elite creative writers.
Ride side effects do happen. Vaccinating cancer patients is already a controversial move...
This story isn't saying anything like you want it to. I suspect you just read the headline.
Nope, read the entire article. My second sentence should’ve made that obvious, and, being that it’s in “The Atlantic,” of course we are going to expect to get a certain “coloring” of, well “it’s rare, it’s an outlier, we couldn’t have caught these in RCTs, nothing really to see hear,” move along. Dogma. But, from the last paragraph and the doctor’s own mouth:
“Around the time of his February follow-up, Michel received a message from a doctor who had read his self-referential case report. The doctor’s mother had been diagnosed with the same subtype of lymphoma that Michel has following a COVID booster shot. More recently, he got an email from a woman whose sister had been vaccinated and received that diagnosis the following month. Again, these could be coincidences. Or maybe they are the second and third data points in a growing set. The possible connection between Michel’s lymphoma flare and his COVID-19 vaccination occupies much of his thinking these days. “If it exists, it must be very rare,” he said. But he doesn’t regret going public with his case. “I’m still convinced it was the right thing to do.””
Again, nuance with these jabs and who we administered them to was quite achievable and necessary. But not if you were stuck in dogma like our public health authorities.
Again, giving immune stimulating agents (vaccines) to T cell cancer patients is not a straightforward decision. This isn’t something shocking…
secondly with many tens of millions of elderly people vaccinated in this country, some of the developing cancer after vaccination is expected… you thrive on anecdote and un-falsifiable statements.
What kind of nuance were you looking for? Pausing vaccination when a 4/1,000,000 rare side effect happens - ok we did that.
My guess is your call for “nuance” is a cover and general anti-vax/anti-establishment/contrarian beliefs. Classic motte-and-bailey arguing.
What natural immunity, lol? Sounds more like immunological imprinting from the original jabs, and, perhaps, an undermining of her adaptive immunity.
Recent evidence shows that Omicron specific boosters are not impaired by hypothetical imprinting. Do try and keep up with the lit.
Again, these creative writing exercises are impressive but fail to refute the victory of the vaccines.
The public is finally wise to the scam.
Not exactly a festival seating stampede:
"The newest booster became available to the public around Labor Day weekend and about 4.4 million people have gotten it as of Sept. 21, according to CDC data. That figure represents about 1.5% of the people eligible"
You should read his books. He's a best selling author on the topic, and you seem to trust his judgment. Let me know how much of his work you agree with.
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Conclusion: There is a strong scientific, ethical and moral case to be made that the current COVID vaccine administration must stop until all the raw data has been subjected to fully independent scrutiny. Looking to the future the medical and public health professions must recognise these failings and eschew the tainted dollar of the medical-industrial complex. It will take a lot of time and effort to rebuild trust in these institutions, but the health – of both humanity and the medical profession – depends on it.
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Please bro just trust me bro the vaccine isn't safe bro. I did my own research bro please bro just trust me on this. The government is brainwashing you bro you need to think like me bro before it's too late bro. There's no long term studies bro we're all gonna die in 5 years bro. Please just listen to me I did my own research on Google bro.
You should read his books. He's a best selling author on the topic, and you seem to trust his judgment. Let me know how much of his work you agree with.
Bad Advice: Or Why Celebrities, Politicians, and Activists Aren't Your Best Source of Health Information
Let me know when he's updated his books to reflect that people like Dr. Michael Yeadon, former Vice President and Chief Scientist of Pfizer are "anti-vax," and abandons the straw man of "Why Celebrities, Politicians, and Activists Aren't Your Best Source of Health Information." Tese days, it is the best scientists on the anti-vax side, and "Celebrities, Politicians, and Activists" pushing "vaccines," masking, and lockdowns.
