Official LRC President Joseph R Biden Thread

Downtown funk wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

"Trump incited an insurrection." A nice little catchphrase you Liberals have latched onto because it puts Trump into the worst possible light. I know it is hopeless but consider 3 salient points that destroy that narrative ...

1) You don't carry flags to an insurrection - you carry guns. They were protesting. I never saw one picture of a protester with a gun. They marched in the Capitol to PROTEST. Nothing else.

2) How did Trump incite when this protest had been planned for weeks? They had spent considerable time planning this and the protest had already commenced by the time Trump spoke.

3) Most importantly, let's look at what Trump actually said. He said "Go march down to the Capitol PEACEFULLY and cheer on your Congressperson " In no way could that be construed as incitement. You have to think about this stuff logically. Not parrot what Maddie or Joy or any of the other radical talking heads tell you.

Revisionist history. Fortunately there is video that can't be reversed and won't be deleted.

Your opinion does not count or matter.

Trollminator wrote:

jonesy22 wrote:

So we should just ban everyone you disagree with? Only a "liberal" can think this way. Just like in China huh?

Just because Trump once tweeted that Twitter is stifling free speech it doesn’t make it so. Try to think for yourself. Now for a primer on this issue, so that you are finally more informed.

Twitter is a private company, not a government. In our country the USA there is something called the first amendment that prevents the government from blocking a person’s or private company’s free speech. If you don’t like the constitution this probably isn’t the right country for you.

Twitter, like other companies, has its own terms of service and can decide for itself what it wants to publish. We don’t live under authoritarian rule and anyone who doesn’t like the terms they agree to can move on to another platform that will accept them. It’s a free country and nothing is preventing trump from paying for a cheap website where he can blog nonsense all day. He can also yell out his nonsense into his TV or out into the streets, that’s his right.

The GQP is equally totally fkn wrong on the cancel culture issue. The government doesn’t have a right to decide the terms of service for companies and prevent them from executing accordingly. When some racist a$$hole goes too far a company has the right to disassociate itself from that person, via severing contractual relationships containing relevant clauses, by changing its rules and by making public statements. We live in a free market and if racist a$$holes are not in demand then they don’t get to have a voice or power. But sure, the GQP can cry about it all they want - free speech baby.

Lastly, if Trump or any chuds believe their rights are being trampled they can sue in court. That’s how things work in the USA. Some of you seem like you’d prefer to be in Chad or the DRC. Try not to hate the US so much.

nonequals wrote:

agip wrote:

dude this is entertainment, nothing more

no one should ever think their arguments will actually change anyone's mind.

the tea party faded, the trumpers will fade. It'll just take some time.

I'm far from sure that your description describes it for everyone else. In fact, I'm pretty certain that it does not. For me, and at least some others, I'd guess, it might better be described as "Hope against hope" (as embarrassing and INCREDIBLY slow-learning as that might be....).

And while I suppose that there is an element of "entertainment" in it, it's far too depressing and apparently futile to qualify as a very good variety.

About "fading," I think that Trumpism almost certainly simply REVEALED what was already there. That won't go away, not anytime close to soon. I mean, my god, when you realize that roughly half of the country no longer has much or any regard for honesty? The rule of law? Decency? DEMOCRACY? It's so infinitely worse than ANY "mere" policy battles since at least the end of Jim Crow.

jonesy22 wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

Just because Trump once tweeted that Twitter is stifling free speech it doesn’t make it so. Try to think for yourself. Now for a primer on this issue, so that you are finally more informed.

Twitter is a private company, not a government. In our country the USA there is something called the first amendment that prevents the government from blocking a person’s or private company’s free speech. If you don’t like the constitution this probably isn’t the right country for you.

Twitter, like other companies, has its own terms of service and can decide for itself what it wants to publish. We don’t live under authoritarian rule and anyone who doesn’t like the terms they agree to can move on to another platform that will accept them. It’s a free country and nothing is preventing trump from paying for a cheap website where he can blog nonsense all day. He can also yell out his nonsense into his TV or out into the streets, that’s his right.

The GQP is equally totally fkn wrong on the cancel culture issue. The government doesn’t have a right to decide the terms of service for companies and prevent them from executing accordingly. When some racist a$$hole goes too far a company has the right to disassociate itself from that person, via severing contractual relationships containing relevant clauses, by changing its rules and by making public statements. We live in a free market and if racist a$$holes are not in demand then they don’t get to have a voice or power. But sure, the GQP can cry about it all they want - free speech baby.

Lastly, if Trump or any chuds believe their rights are being trampled they can sue in court. That’s how things work in the USA. Some of you seem like you’d prefer to be in Chad or the DRC. Try not to hate the US so much.

So you think companies like twitter and facebook should be allowed to freely suppress what they want to? Even if they control so much of the market that they can control what major portions of the public see? And are given immunity from being sued to supposedly protect them from being considered the publisher of harmful content?

The whole idea of protecting them from suit was that they could then publish all content. If they are going to apply their bias to what they will publish, we should remove their immunity. Some have the view that the ability to censor should not rest with a privately-owned company that may use its power to direct opinion. BTW, I don't need your "primer", I got my primer in law school.

Well, ok then! wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

"Trump incited an insurrection." A nice little catchphrase you Liberals have latched onto because it puts Trump into the worst possible light. I know it is hopeless but consider 3 salient points that destroy that narrative ...

1) You don't carry flags to an insurrection - you carry guns. They were protesting. I never saw one picture of a protester with a gun. They marched in the Capitol to PROTEST. Nothing else.

2) How did Trump incite when this protest had been planned for weeks? They had spent considerable time planning this and the protest had already commenced by the time Trump spoke.

3) Most importantly, let's look at what Trump actually said. He said "Go march down to the Capitol PEACEFULLY and cheer on your Congressperson " In no way could that be construed as incitement. You have to think about this stuff logically. Not parrot what Maddie or Joy or any of the other radical talking heads tell you.

What would you like to call it?

"A violent protest where they where persons claiming to be following Trump's directions breached the capitol to threaten my elected representative" just doesn't roll off the tongue. But it entirely accurate.

Fat hurts wrote:

FINAL TALLY:

Do you believe the 2020 election was stolen from Donald Trump? Yes or No?

YES

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Save America

Ghost of Disco Gary

NO

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Fat hurts

agip

wazzu1452

The Clown Show

pupil3142

Monkeys Skyping

kibitzer

Ivyguy

formerly present

CountChocula

Real Obvi

Ciro

Trollminator

1101

Just Another Hobby Jogger

douglas burke

L L

It's interesting that only two posters here admit to believing the Big Lie. And this is an anonymous forum!!! If I'm not mistaken, even some of the "NO" votes are or were Trump supporters.

This does not bode well for the future of the Republican party when the price of admission is promoting a lie that very few people actually believe. Trump-backed candidates will win most of the primaries and they will be asked about the Big Lie over and over.

Consequently, Republican voters will stay home in droves because it's very hard to get excited about something you don't believe in.

Ghost of Disco Gary wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

FINAL TALLY:

Do you believe the 2020 election was stolen from Donald Trump? Yes or No?

YES

----------------

Save America

Ghost of Disco Gary

NO

----------------

Fat hurts

agip

wazzu1452

The Clown Show

pupil3142

Monkeys Skyping

kibitzer

Ivyguy

formerly present

CountChocula

Real Obvi

Ciro

Trollminator

1101

Just Another Hobby Jogger

douglas burke

L L

It's interesting that only two posters here admit to believing the Big Lie. And this is an anonymous forum!!! If I'm not mistaken, even some of the "NO" votes are or were Trump supporters.

This does not bode well for the future of the Republican party when the price of admission is promoting a lie that very few people actually believe. Trump-backed candidates will win most of the primaries and they will be asked about the Big Lie over and over.

Consequently, Republican voters will stay home in droves because it's very hard to get excited about something you don't believe in.

Wrong. Democrats are going to take a beating in the midterms. Both houses of Congress may flip red.

This forum is 99% liberal, of course the libs here believe that the election had no fraud.