I'm breaking my rule: Second Kip Litton Thread - Can someone please tell me what's up?

Does he still have his dentistry license?

CH wrote:

(5) he runs faster than 2:56:12 (his West Wyoming Marathon time).

So, we have 2K on the table from Rojo if Kip runs 3:00, and a bonus prize purse of $1500 making it $3500 total if Kip goes under 2:56:12 (though you might want to email SOKLR or Rojo with your real info if you're truly serious CH).

Dan Baxley/all ya'll family/friends of Kip -- you're crazy to not take this offer and get Kip on a course - especially if you really think your buddy Kip can put the time on the clock.

That's the total prize purse for a lot of small marathons, and first you have to win the race. Even if Kip doesn't need the money, foolish not to take it and give it to charity.

Of course, all those friends and family would sure be disappointed if Kip couldn't even pull off a 3:30...

Kip is 52 or 53 years old. He's not breaking 3 hours. He cheated back then, so was he really ever in sub 3 hour shape?

He's cheating in 10k races, 10 mile races, frickin relay races!!!! He got "lost" during a relay???? BULLSHIT!!!!!!

How come I didn't get lost during the marathon year after year but he got lost during a short leg??? Again BULLSHIT!!!! If I were one of his fellow relay runners I would have outed him in a heartbeat.

Family watched these races, correct? Were's the photos that any family would have taken???

I would not say that 3:30 would be impossible, but I don't think it would be easy. 3:00 or 2:56, NOT happening!!!

Trolls, Kip, or his friends, it doesn't matter as ever time someone posts proof, they don't respond.

He did not stop during a marthon, change his shoes, shorts, hat, etc....and then kept running breaking 3 hours in the process, with not one credible witness.

The only thing people should be offering Kip Litton money to do is run a race that includes a 1,000' drop off a skyscraper or cliff. The guy is a turd and anyone like this Dan Baxley character who stands up for him is just as guilty as Litton himself and is therefore also in need of eliminating from the world of living creatures.

Scowling and Growling wrote:

The only thing people should be offering Kip Litton money to do is run a race that includes a 1,000' drop off a skyscraper or cliff. The guy is a turd and anyone like this Dan Baxley character who stands up for him is just as guilty as Litton himself and is therefore also in need of eliminating from the world of living creatures.

Don't forget Annette Lloyd right ?

And Lisa Litton ?

10k Solstice/Freep wrote:

Trolls, Kip, or his friends, it doesn't matter as ever time someone posts

He did not stop during a marthon, change his shoes, shorts, hat, etc....and then kept running breaking 3 hours in the process, with not one credible witness.

"Credible" witnesses: (none of whom mark singer interviewed / considered credible I guess?)

Dan Baxley

Charlie Engle

Annette Lloyd

Lisa Litton

Nick Litton

Luc2bKY wrote:

Does he still have his dentistry license?

Scary, but the answer is yes.

phredryka wrote:

CH wrote:

(5) he runs faster than 2:56:12 (his West Wyoming Marathon time).

So, we have 2K on the table from Rojo if Kip runs 3:00, and a bonus prize purse of $1500 making it $3500 total if Kip goes under 2:56:12 (though you might want to email SOKLR or Rojo with your real info if you're truly serious CH).

Dan Baxley/all ya'll family/friends of Kip -- you're crazy to not take this offer and get Kip on a course - especially if you really think your buddy Kip can put the time on the clock.

That's the total prize purse for a lot of small marathons, and first you have to win the race. Even if Kip doesn't need the money, foolish not to take it and give it to charity.

Of course, all those friends and family would sure be disappointed if Kip couldn't even pull off a 3:30...

Rojo offered 2K but only for sub 3:30 (a very low bar & something kip might actually be able to do)

Yeah dumba$$, where and when have they "actually" posted on here? His family watched him change shoes among other things during a race?

You people are breaking rojo's edict here. Go back to the original thread!

rojo wrote:

I know I'm breaking "rojo rule" but I've noticed as of late the Kip Litton thread has been popular. Why would it be popular years after the fact.

Can someone please tell me why it's been getting lots of hits. I have no desire to go wade through that thread.

So post a few posts here as to what is going on and then go back to the original thread. Many thanks.

Nip and Tuck wrote:

Yeah dumba$$, where and when have they "actually" posted on here? His family watched him change shoes among other things during a race?

Dan Baxley posted here in profanity laced tirade back in 2010

Nick Litton has tweeted publicly that Kip Litton didn't cheat in races

Lisa Litton must know he's innocent because she is an "outstanding attorney" according to one poster

Engle posts on his FB wall

How much money you throw down for Litton to go under 3hrs in marathon?

Doñahello wrote:

Mr. Obvious wrote:

Just a guess but I'd rather suspect the posting is supposed to be Charlie Engle, not Chuck Engle.

Both dudes are blowhards right

Well, Chuck Engle runs marathons frequently with pretty respectable times. Charlie Engle runs ultramarathons andwent to prison because he seemed to have a lot of problems telling the truth.

YOU do not know that it was Dan Baxley and if it were, so what as what could he say that could refute clear evidence that he cheated? He can't. I'd love to debate him as he'd lose. Photos don't lie.

Was he at the races that he cheated?

Can he explain away the obvious proof that Kip did not complete the same course that others did?

Skip Demats TC, you've got issues.

To the best of my knowledge, this dan Baxley somehow believes Kip Litton to be innocent and the victim of a witch hunt eventually published in the New Yorker. He also thinks people are just jealous of his running ability because he thinks no one on letsrun can race 5 min miles like Kip. Kip's ability to hold 5min paced miles makes him the Michael Jordan of masters athletes in Clarkston Michigan. Does Lisa Litton or dan Baxley pay for reputation dot com to improve Kip's search results?

Truther 101 wrote:

YOU do not know that it was Dan Baxley and if it were, so what as what could he say that could refute clear evidence that he cheated? He can't. I'd love to debate him as he'd lose. Photos don't lie.

Was he at the races that he cheated?

Can he explain away the obvious proof that Kip did not complete the same course that others did?

Skip Demats TC, you've got issues.

Ha! Kip hold 5 minute pace? Whoever Baxley is, he can't be that smart.

If it were a witch hunt, no one who owns a website would allow a thread like this to stand.

Berating a totally innocent person, on a public forum with hundreds of pages, yet no lawsuit against Letsrun. Why not?

Think about it. If you were Kip accused of the same thing, with the exact same posts and comments listed about you, wouldn't you sue?

Heck, if I recall, someone claimed his name was brought up in a Hanson's Book.

I sent an email to SOKLR a few moments ago confirming the legitimacy of my offer. As I mentioned in my email, I'm not going to lose any sleep over this wager as there is no way in the world Kip can run a full marathon in under 2:56:12.

Scooby Don't wrote:

Ha! Kip hold 5 minute pace? Whoever Baxley is, he can't be that smart.

If it were a witch hunt, no one who owns a website would allow a thread like this to stand.

Berating a totally innocent person, on a public forum with hundreds of pages, yet no lawsuit against Letsrun. Why not?

Think about it. If you were Kip accused of the same thing, with the exact same posts and comments listed about you, wouldn't you sue?

Heck, if I recall, someone claimed his name was brought up in a Hanson's Book.

Yes you're referring to Sage Canaday's book on the Brooks Hansons Distance Project, where Kip Litton is mentioned as a "stroke," and as someone who would " finagle his way into the boston marathon"

I don't know Sage and he's definitely not a "world class" runner, but why would he put that in his book if he didn't have proof of it (regardless of it being worded as it being just his personal opinion). Finagle his way into the Boston Marathon? Why not Tom Wilson, Joe Smith, Mike Jones, why specifically Kip Litton?