A heat wave in California has strained the electric grid to the point where the state has asked residents to cut back on charging their electric vehicles.
So typical...ram through dumb laws to force people buy cars they don't want...Facist leftists...
EV sales have been growing steadily in California for quite some time. In the first half of 2022, 18% of all new cars sold in California had a plug.
People do want EVs in California and they continue to become more and more popular.
The only reason the 2035 mandate might be considered dumb is because California will reach 100% plug-in long before that. But it's important to have the date-certain so everyone can plan accordingly.
Oh, and you need to look up the definition of "Fascist".
So typical...ram through dumb laws to force people buy cars they don't want...Facist leftists...
EV sales have been growing steadily in California for quite some time. In the first half of 2022, 18% of all new cars sold in California had a plug.
People do want EVs in California and they continue to become more and more popular.
The only reason the 2035 mandate might be considered dumb is because California will reach 100% plug-in long before that. But it's important to have the date-certain so everyone can plan accordingly.
Oh, and you need to look up the definition of "Fascist".
LoL good luck with 100% long before 2035. The supply chain is still broken. Lithium shortage, metals shortage, construction materials shortage, labor shortage.
I had deposits on a 22 ID4, BZ4X and Ioniq5 but the IRA took away the tax credit. So then I considered a Ford Mach E and then they jacked up the price by 8k, effectively stealing everyone's tax credit. Now I'll probably keep my ICE until the wheels fall off. The average person isn't going to pay 50-60k for a car that should cost 40k.
EV sales have been growing steadily in California for quite some time. In the first half of 2022, 18% of all new cars sold in California had a plug.
People do want EVs in California and they continue to become more and more popular.
The only reason the 2035 mandate might be considered dumb is because California will reach 100% plug-in long before that. But it's important to have the date-certain so everyone can plan accordingly.
Oh, and you need to look up the definition of "Fascist".
LoL good luck with 100% long before 2035. The supply chain is still broken. Lithium shortage, metals shortage, construction materials shortage, labor shortage.
I had deposits on a 22 ID4, BZ4X and Ioniq5 but the IRA took away the tax credit. So then I considered a Ford Mach E and then they jacked up the price by 8k, effectively stealing everyone's tax credit. Now I'll probably keep my ICE until the wheels fall off. The average person isn't going to pay 50-60k for a car that should cost 40k.
The price will come down when automakers figure out how to make EVs in high volume. So far, Tesla is the only company that can do it.
Also, there are scores of new EV battery factories under construction in the US. Soon it will be cheaper to produce EVs than gas cars. I suspect Tesla has already hit that milestone as well, but the others will get there in a few years.
LoL good luck with 100% long before 2035. The supply chain is still broken. Lithium shortage, metals shortage, construction materials shortage, labor shortage.
I had deposits on a 22 ID4, BZ4X and Ioniq5 but the IRA took away the tax credit. So then I considered a Ford Mach E and then they jacked up the price by 8k, effectively stealing everyone's tax credit. Now I'll probably keep my ICE until the wheels fall off. The average person isn't going to pay 50-60k for a car that should cost 40k.
The price will come down when automakers figure out how to make EVs in high volume. So far, Tesla is the only company that can do it.
Also, there are scores of new EV battery factories under construction in the US. Soon it will be cheaper to produce EVs than gas cars. I suspect Tesla has already hit that milestone as well, but the others will get there in a few years.
Typical liberal...lives in a utopean fantasy land devoid of reality...
The price will come down when automakers figure out how to make EVs in high volume. So far, Tesla is the only company that can do it.
Also, there are scores of new EV battery factories under construction in the US. Soon it will be cheaper to produce EVs than gas cars. I suspect Tesla has already hit that milestone as well, but the others will get there in a few years.
Typical liberal...lives in a utopean fantasy land devoid of reality...
This chart is almost a year old, Honda announced a new plant just the other day, but it's a capitalist "fantasy" with real money digging real dirt building real factories which will employ real workers in the US of A.
LoL good luck with 100% long before 2035. The supply chain is still broken. Lithium shortage, metals shortage, construction materials shortage, labor shortage.
I had deposits on a 22 ID4, BZ4X and Ioniq5 but the IRA took away the tax credit. So then I considered a Ford Mach E and then they jacked up the price by 8k, effectively stealing everyone's tax credit. Now I'll probably keep my ICE until the wheels fall off. The average person isn't going to pay 50-60k for a car that should cost 40k.
The price will come down when automakers figure out how to make EVs in high volume. So far, Tesla is the only company that can do it.
Also, there are scores of new EV battery factories under construction in the US. Soon it will be cheaper to produce EVs than gas cars. I suspect Tesla has already hit that milestone as well, but the others will get there in a few years.
You are saying that Tesla is the only company tht can make EVs in high volume and Tesla has dramatically cut production costs - but lookie here ... The 2012 Tesla Model S cost $49K and the 2022 Tesla costs almost twice as much - base price $105,000. Why do they charge so much now if the production costs have been lowered so much???
Renewables plus storage leads to clean air and water. And, oh, avoids a climate disaster.
Except storage is extraordinarily expensive the path the Democrats wish to pursue (batteries), because they keep opposing things like proposed pump back hydro projects that are actually somewhat cheap. The only thing that has allowed renewables to operate in many parts of the country without hydro is natural gas turbines to fill in when the wind isn't blowing and the sun isn't shining (which is a lot of the time). If you want to know what electricity prices look like without natural gas turbines, simply look at Europe right now. Average price of electricity in Europe right now is $993 per MWh (almost a dollar per kWh), compared to the US average of $127 per MWh (slightly under 13 cents per kWh) or about 7-8 times the cost.
In a few years the EV cars will start breaking down and having problems, there won't be enough charging stations and sales will plummet...
The Norwegian Tesla owners are already having hunger strikes because they think their Teslas are crap and the Tesla service is crap. Soon coming to America!
LoL good luck with 100% long before 2035. The supply chain is still broken. Lithium shortage, metals shortage, construction materials shortage, labor shortage.
I had deposits on a 22 ID4, BZ4X and Ioniq5 but the IRA took away the tax credit. So then I considered a Ford Mach E and then they jacked up the price by 8k, effectively stealing everyone's tax credit. Now I'll probably keep my ICE until the wheels fall off. The average person isn't going to pay 50-60k for a car that should cost 40k.
The price will come down when automakers figure out how to make EVs in high volume. So far, Tesla is the only company that can do it.
Also, there are scores of new EV battery factories under construction in the US. Soon it will be cheaper to produce EVs than gas cars. I suspect Tesla has already hit that milestone as well, but the others will get there in a few years.
Tesla is the only company that can lower cost? Then why does Model 3 cost 47k now when it used to be 39k? Why does Model Y cost 67k when it used to be 43k? No other car company has raised the price of their EVs as much as Tesla.
Renewables plus storage leads to clean air and water. And, oh, avoids a climate disaster.
Except storage is extraordinarily expensive the path the Democrats wish to pursue (batteries), because they keep opposing things like proposed pump back hydro projects that are actually somewhat cheap. The only thing that has allowed renewables to operate in many parts of the country without hydro is natural gas turbines to fill in when the wind isn't blowing and the sun isn't shining (which is a lot of the time). If you want to know what electricity prices look like without natural gas turbines, simply look at Europe right now. Average price of electricity in Europe right now is $993 per MWh (almost a dollar per kWh), compared to the US average of $127 per MWh (slightly under 13 cents per kWh) or about 7-8 times the cost.
You're being disingenuous. The current high price of electricity in Europe is mostly driven by uncertainty and supply constrains in the natural gas supply.
I addressed the cost issue several posts ago. Perhaps you should go back and read them.
if you don’t know the difference between charging immediately and delaying charging, I can’t help you dude. Maybe you could check the spec sheets. Lol
You don't seem to understand the concept, which is why I was trying to help you. If you just like wasting money, there is nothing I can do.
But for the last time I will try to get through to you. All you have to do is press a few buttons and your electricity bill will go down. Nothing about your daily life will change.
Typical liberal...lives in a utopean fantasy land devoid of reality...
This chart is almost a year old, Honda announced a new plant just the other day, but it's a capitalist "fantasy" with real money digging real dirt building real factories which will employ real workers in the US of A.
Yeah. And since the Inflation Reduction Act passed, a lot more battery factories for the US have been announced. China dominates the EV battery market right now. But not for long.
The price will come down when automakers figure out how to make EVs in high volume. So far, Tesla is the only company that can do it.
Also, there are scores of new EV battery factories under construction in the US. Soon it will be cheaper to produce EVs than gas cars. I suspect Tesla has already hit that milestone as well, but the others will get there in a few years.
You are saying that Tesla is the only company tht can make EVs in high volume and Tesla has dramatically cut production costs - but lookie here ... The 2012 Tesla Model S cost $49K and the 2022 Tesla costs almost twice as much - base price $105,000. Why do they charge so much now if the production costs have been lowered so much???
That's right. It's called the law of supply and demand. Since Tesla is the only company to make EVs in high volume, and their cars are far superior to any other vehicle, Tesla can charge a huge premium.
Some of the high price is due to inflation. But most of it is going to Tesla's bottom line. Tesla's automotive gross margins are way ahead of everyone else.
The Tesla Model Y will probably be the best selling car in the world by revenue this year. By next year it will also be the best selling by units sold.
The price will come down when automakers figure out how to make EVs in high volume. So far, Tesla is the only company that can do it.
Also, there are scores of new EV battery factories under construction in the US. Soon it will be cheaper to produce EVs than gas cars. I suspect Tesla has already hit that milestone as well, but the others will get there in a few years.
Tesla is the only company that can lower cost? Then why does Model 3 cost 47k now when it used to be 39k? Why does Model Y cost 67k when it used to be 43k? No other car company has raised the price of their EVs as much as Tesla.
I'm sure when 100% of people have EVs, they will all be able to charge!
California is getting an unprecedented heat wave this weekend due to global warming caused by CO2 emissions. You have to be a special kind of right wing dummy to wag your finger at California for putting out conservation alerts for this weekend as some sort of admission that EVs don't work in the real world.
The price will come down when automakers figure out how to make EVs in high volume. So far, Tesla is the only company that can do it.
Also, there are scores of new EV battery factories under construction in the US. Soon it will be cheaper to produce EVs than gas cars. I suspect Tesla has already hit that milestone as well, but the others will get there in a few years.
Tesla is the only company that can lower cost? Then why does Model 3 cost 47k now when it used to be 39k? Why does Model Y cost 67k when it used to be 43k? No other car company has raised the price of their EVs as much as Tesla.
I'm sure when 100% of people have EVs, they will all be able to charge!
For your first questions, see my answer to Sally above.
There is no problem with having the infrastructure to support mass adoption of EVs. The reason is that most EV charging is done at night when there is plenty of spare generating capacity.
We've already covered the voluntary effort to get people to not charge from 4pm to 9pm. Hardly anyone needs to charge their EV during the peak usage hours anyway.
Renewables plus storage leads to clean air and water. And, oh, avoids a climate disaster.
Except storage is extraordinarily expensive the path the Democrats wish to pursue (batteries), because they keep opposing things like proposed pump back hydro projects that are actually somewhat cheap. The only thing that has allowed renewables to operate in many parts of the country without hydro is natural gas turbines to fill in when the wind isn't blowing and the sun isn't shining (which is a lot of the time). If you want to know what electricity prices look like without natural gas turbines, simply look at Europe right now. Average price of electricity in Europe right now is $993 per MWh (almost a dollar per kWh), compared to the US average of $127 per MWh (slightly under 13 cents per kWh) or about 7-8 times the cost.
The price of battery storage is coming down fast. Products like the Tesla Megapack are already replacing gas peaker plants. But we are just getting started.
Long term, renewables + storage is the answer. When we are done, energy will be cheaper and more plentiful that you can imagine.