Frank Meza 2:53:10 at LA Marathon (70 years old) unofficial time (just finished)

Plus the fact LAM got closed circuit video and a witness according to that press release tells me they took this extremely seriously. Honestly, I think there's a book behind this story and not just the course cutting.

A book on what went on behind the scenes starting with the statement "Pending any additional information, this is the best solution for all.". Think hard about that in hindsight.

For some people it’s easier to complain than be proactive.

1. MI has stayed the course and stuck around. No small accomplishment in the new internet world.

2. Credit is given, where it’s due. Also it’s not going to sound better when “bored ____” gets quoted. Not one poster who has actually provided information used in Derek’s Frank Meza articles has groused about their username, page, and post being left out.

3. Derek has stuck his neck out there when many

people would rather sit behind the anonymity of a keyboard and accuse or complain.

4. Despite what some posters may want to believe, races and their directors are not beholden to anonymous internet posters. Their decisions are often dictated by a board of directors or owner. “Processes” take much longer than expected.

Derek did fine wrote:

Plus the fact LAM got closed circuit video and a witness according to that press release tells me they took this extremely seriously. Honestly, I think there's a book behind this story and not just the course cutting.

A book on what went on behind the scenes starting with the statement "Pending any additional information, this is the best solution for all.". Think hard about that in hindsight.

LAM Confidential

maybe this wrote:

It's almost as if meeting up for an extra stroll down Ocean Blvd. was the plan all along.

Did Frankie have to jog back and feed the parking meter?

BTW, what model and color is Roderick's car?

triathleteguru wrote:

Regarding Frank's DQ from the 2019 LA Marathon, kudos to them for doing the right thing, but I hope that this is just the start!

I do not understand why they didn't go ahead and include just a bit more, such as "Due to the clear evidence that Dr Frank Meza cut the course in 2019 and due the the fact that similar discrepancies exist in his previous LA Marathon participations, we have taken the additional measure of removing his previous results. Furthermore, Frank is banned from future participation in all Conqur Endurance Group events. "

I agree; this wasn’t enough and plays into his narrative that he’s being dq’d for stepping off the course to pee and re-entering in another spot. Every day people will not out together the fast 5K split, etc. they needed to be clear that he’s a cheater and course cutter. He should be banned from all races in CA and dq’d in the sprouts marathon.

Did PB defend him because he hoped it would reduce the chances that we’d look at his racing results next?

Are the next priorities:

Get Phoenix to DQ

Look at the races of PB

I have looked at the races of the three banditos. The only question I had was Francisco Meza running 3:09 at LAM 2018. That is fast for a 40 year old . His other results the past few years do not match that result. With not really wanting it to seem liking I am picking on Francisco because he is FM's son.....my gut tells me that 3:09 (with very believable splits that match his previous years mini-fade at the end----I still think that is too fast....just sayin'....again) I'm out of order? FM and his misbehavior should negate that argument. Especially as Francisco has followed his fathers seemingly super example--outside of the marathon cheating. AND the Pasadena HM questions that came up remain intentionally unanswered by either Frank, Francisco, Sara or Phillip

Frank Meza Report wrote:

Stop calling the Pasadena Half Marathon a kids charity. It’s not.

So what's not factual about this?:

Don't forget the 2019 Pasadena Half. wrote:

Oh yeah, and that was the kids charity one The Three Doctor Banditos scammed.

It raises money for a kids charity and they scammed it.

"Thank you to the Pasadena Ronald McDonald House for being the Official Charity of the Pasadena Half Marathon & 5K at the Rose Bowl. What a great way to give back to the City of Pasadena and make a positive impact on the community that we will run through.

The Pasadena Ronald McDonald House® is a “home-away-from-home” for families with critically-ill children...

deadesq wrote:

Greg Chrisman wrote:

Yup - PHX should DQ next. Emails will help.

It wont be over till all the Long Beach ones, the other LAMs etc are officially adjudicated or there is an actual apology and admittance of guilt.

Go deadesq and doubler (derek)!

Thanks, Greg. I'm glad LA did the right thing in the end, even if he's still showing up in the searchable results for LA 2019. As for the rest, I hope in due time PHX will realize that Derek's work cannot be refuted. As for Long Beach, I don't hold out a lot of hope that anything will happen, but on that note....

Long Beach 2016. Frank--you can run, but you can't hide.

https://imgur.com/a/WjQBwBZ

he's actually much better at hiding than he is at running but this is still some fine work.

HS stepped up? wrote:

Roderick Powell wrote:

The revised results for the Men’s 70-74 age group are:

1st - Dan Adams - 4:10:07

2nd - Marek Malolepzy - 4:11:08

3rd - Joe Ogata - 4:25:24

Ok, so LAM also DQd Robert Lautz (formerly 4th place), allowing Joe Ogata to take 3rd place. Congratulations, Joe!

But where is the Disqualification Notice for Robert Lautz? And why have a Disqualification Notice at all if you're going to leave people in the searchable results?

Also, don't forget this was the third year in a row Robert Lautz had only registered mats from the 25k, so probably deserves a shorter narrative Disqualification Notice as he's not a serial 10 year cheater like Meza, but three years is starting to get up there.

deadesq wrote:

bored troller wrote:

nice find! Piss break no doubt.

He must piss in the same spot each year, then. From Long Beach 2017.....

https://imgur.com/a/w3cCOgI

You can actually see him stretching against a car in an earlier frame.

https://imgur.com/a/kLpDV5Z

more brilliant work.

why bother wrote:

he's actually much better at hiding than he is at running but this is still some fine work.

Agree, as I mentioned previously, I wish he'd come on to the thread a lot earlier, would have saved a lot of us wannabe sleuths and truth seekers a shitload of time and effort.

why bother wrote:

fine work.

he did fail to highlight meza on 1011_0041 though so 9/10

Lovely Rita Meter Maid wrote:

BTW, what model and color is Roderick's car?

haha

even rod would have had a laff at this

by the way rod what color and model is it wrote:

Lovely Rita Meter Maid wrote:

BTW, what model and color is Roderick's car?

haha

even rod would have had a laff at this

Red Toyota Corolla

is it possible to get the photo of him leaning on the car in HD?

here's the email for Phoenix Marathon

social@phxmarathon.com

I will buy that hi-res photo.

Plagiarist wrote:

They took it further because Derek hasn't had time to copy it yet. The Murphy doesn't do anything that someone else hasn't already suggested, written, or discovered.

You must be someone that cheats and offended by what MI does. Let's get perspective:

The 'impossible 5km split' crucial to the DQ only became evident due to Derek's hi res pics of him at 18.7km, Derek actually being the first to correspond with FM about that stoppage, then the time taken from re-entry to the 20km mat.

There were also other hi res pics identifying FM at other stoppage points and evidence of real running pace to the next mats.

This is the crucial evidence that LAM then followed up with requesting CC TV footage from retailers in the area, talking to bystanders or marshals etc, because LAM is able to access that info.

This most likely gave them evidence of a larger stoppage break, so that they could be absolutely certain he could not have run that segment.

Don't forget the 2019 Pasadena Half. wrote:

Frank Meza Report wrote:

Stop calling the Pasadena Half Marathon a kids charity. It’s not.

So what's not factual about this?:

Don't forget the 2019 Pasadena Half. wrote:

Oh yeah, and that was the kids charity one The Three Doctor Banditos scammed.

It raises money for a kids charity and they scammed it.

"Thank you to the Pasadena Ronald McDonald House for being the Official Charity of the Pasadena Half Marathon & 5K at the Rose Bowl. What a great way to give back to the City of Pasadena and make a positive impact on the community that we will run through.

The Pasadena Ronald McDonald House® is a “home-away-from-home” for families with critically-ill children...

Does the Pasadena Half Marathon have a charity component? Yes, but that’s really contingent upon the entrant-not the race organizer. Not even a meager portion of the actual race entry fee is being funneled to the Ronald McDonald House. If it’s a race that’s chief existence is to support a charitable cause then yes, a poster can say he cheated a children ‘s charity. Or if Frank signed up late, paid the charitable race donation fee and then used that bib to help his friends. But did they decide bandit before or after the race deadline? Besides bandits pay no fees - so no portion of their race consumption cost Ronald McDonald House.

“With general entries closed, Conqur is offering a limited number of charity entries, which require payment of the entry fee, plus a minimum $50 donation; the charity will benefit the Pasadena Ronald McDonald House, the event’s official charity partner.”

FYI - I live in LA and am familiar with how the Conqur Group handles nonprofits when it comes to discounting race fees.