I didn't want to water down that point by including:
1) DeSantis is way too close to being Trump.
2) Haley is just another cowardly R. Like them all, she could have been and should have been a Liz Cheney, but failed that (easy) test. Like almost all of them.
Neither are worthy of the position.
DeSantis is not Trump. He employs some of Trump’s populist politics because it is a winning formula, not because he necessarily cares for their pet cause. The great irony is that those fringe elements they are trying to court via identity politics (specific non-college educated white males) traditionally voted for Democrats because of their pro-union and give away policies (unions are the enablers of white privilege and structural racism when it comes to providing high paying jobs to non-college educated males). In short, the identity policies you hate are employed to sway voters who used to vote for Democrats. Unlike the Dems we don’t actually give them anything (Democrats give them labor laws that favor their racist policies).
That's a weird - and I think incorrect - distinction you're making between Ron and Don.
Many/most people, of course, tend to mention that Ron is less stupid, perhaps at least slightly less amoral, probably has more self-control, has committed fewer crimes, etc.
But your main defense of him above appears to be that he simply "employs Trump's politics" as part of a winning formula. In other words, say what you need to say - which in today's R party means a lot bad or trivial stuff - to get elected. And that's exactly what Trump does. No distinction, there.
Oh, and you can pander to lots of different voters in lots of different ways WITHOUT being anywhere near the horror that is Donald Trump. If you can't figure out a way to do that, you definitely don't deserve to be president. Again, Ron is FAR too much like Don.
Nope! You can't vote for Donald Trump and be a fine person in any way. He's a racist. He's a sexist. He's a full-on criminal who has been running a criminal enterprise for decades. He's a fool who knows next to nothing about everything. He praises murderous dictators and says that China's President is a "smart man" because he rules the country with an iron first. Trump wants to be a dictator here. No fine person supports that nonsense. Some fine people voted for him in 2016, but we didn't fully know the level of his criminality, ineptitude, and depravity then. After about 2018, there were no fine people left still supporting him.
If you weren't wrong about this, your life would suck a LOT more than it does. Whether you get out a little or a lot (ranging from a few retirement errands to a high-exposure full-time job + high social activity), you're running into polite, helpful, nice Trump VOTERS all the time.
This is a good thing, not a bad thing. If we were going zero-for-two on this, life would REALLY suck.
Just because someone appears polite and helpful out in society doesn't mean they are a good person. Many people do that because it is socially acceptable or because they don't want to have to bother with getting into it with someone. True colors are shown when voting for a sinful amoral POS criminal wannabe dictator. What we vote FOR and vote AGAINST speaks to our character, ESPECIALLY when we are talking about a person as flawed as Donald Trump.
I submit to you that he has FOR SURE broken 9 of the 10 Commandments (which SHOULD be important to Christians who support him and IS important to me, because if Christianity were boiled down to these 10 commandments and not all the nonsense magical belief system, I'd be cool with that) I italicized the one below that I BARELY give him a pass on.
1) Thou shalt have no other gods before me: Um...he worships money and power and porn stars...those are his Gods. Mr. "Two Corinthians" wouldn't know a Bible verse if it hit him in the face.
2) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven images: Um...his life is an idol...to HIMSELF.
3) Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain: Um...yeah right. He's on tape doing that. Even I have done that (though it's not a habit of mine), and I'm the best there is.
4) Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy: Um...he's not a religious person. He doesn't keep the Sabbath holy. Give me a freakin' break you Christians who believe Trump is a "man of God." WTF is wrong with you people?
5) Honor thy father and thy mother: Um...he has done anything but that. He has said horrible things about both of his parents even though Daddy is the only reason he has money, and he went against Fred Trump's wishes and has run Fred Trump's company into the ground.
6) Thou shalt not kill: Um...I won't count this one as a FOR SURE, but it could be argued that his stance and slow action on COVID-19 directly led to the death of thousands if not more, and it could be argued that his Jan. 6 nonsense led to the death of several on that day. I certainly wouldn't defend him on this one.
7) Thou shalt not commit adultery: Um...holy freakin' crap! The only question is how many times did he do this for each wife?
8) Thou shalt not steal: Um...his Trump Foundation was taken away because of his fraud (stealing). His Trump Organization is about to be dissolved because of his stealing. He has ripped people off for decades (stealing).
9) Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor: Um...LYING?! He has probably told more lies than anyone ever.
10) Thou shalt not covet (not thy neighbor's wife or neighbor's house or anything else): Um...right. Shall not covet your son-in-law's wife either.
Just because someone appears polite and helpful out in society doesn't mean they are a good person. Many people do that because it is socially acceptable or because they don't want to have to bother with getting into it with someone. True colors are shown when voting for a sinful amoral POS criminal wannabe dictator. What we vote FOR and vote AGAINST speaks to our character, ESPECIALLY when we are talking about a person as flawed as Donald Trump.
I submit to you that he has FOR SURE broken 9 of the 10 Commandments (which SHOULD be important to Christians who support him and IS important to me, because if Christianity were boiled down to these 10 commandments and not all the nonsense magical belief system, I'd be cool with that) I italicized the one below that I BARELY give him a pass on.
1) Thou shalt have no other gods before me: Um...he worships money and power and porn stars...those are his Gods. Mr. "Two Corinthians" wouldn't know a Bible verse if it hit him in the face.
2) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven images: Um...his life is an idol...to HIMSELF.
3) Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain: Um...yeah right. He's on tape doing that. Even I have done that (though it's not a habit of mine), and I'm the best there is.
4) Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy: Um...he's not a religious person. He doesn't keep the Sabbath holy. Give me a freakin' break you Christians who believe Trump is a "man of God." WTF is wrong with you people?
5) Honor thy father and thy mother: Um...he has done anything but that. He has said horrible things about both of his parents even though Daddy is the only reason he has money, and he went against Fred Trump's wishes and has run Fred Trump's company into the ground.
6) Thou shalt not kill: Um...I won't count this one as a FOR SURE, but it could be argued that his stance and slow action on COVID-19 directly led to the death of thousands if not more, and it could be argued that his Jan. 6 nonsense led to the death of several on that day. I certainly wouldn't defend him on this one.
7) Thou shalt not commit adultery: Um...holy freakin' crap! The only question is how many times did he do this for each wife?
8) Thou shalt not steal: Um...his Trump Foundation was taken away because of his fraud (stealing). His Trump Organization is about to be dissolved because of his stealing. He has ripped people off for decades (stealing).
9) Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor: Um...LYING?! He has probably told more lies than anyone ever.
10) Thou shalt not covet (not thy neighbor's wife or neighbor's house or anything else): Um...right. Shall not covet your son-in-law's wife either.
But... but... Trump is a "person of faith", more so than Pence and Romney!
More than half of Republicans see former President Donald Trump as a person of faith, a higher percentage than those who said the same of more vocally religious politicians such as former Vice Pres…
If you weren't wrong about this, your life would suck a LOT more than it does. Whether you get out a little or a lot (ranging from a few retirement errands to a high-exposure full-time job + high social activity), you're running into polite, helpful, nice Trump VOTERS all the time.
This is a good thing, not a bad thing. If we were going zero-for-two on this, life would REALLY suck.
Just because someone appears polite and helpful out in society doesn't mean they are a good person. Many people do that because it is socially acceptable or because they don't want to have to bother with getting into it with someone. True colors are shown when voting for a sinful amoral POS criminal wannabe dictator. What we vote FOR and vote AGAINST speaks to our character, ESPECIALLY when we are talking about a person as flawed as Donald Trump.
I submit to you that he has FOR SURE broken 9 of the 10 Commandments (which SHOULD be important to Christians who support him and IS important to me, because if Christianity were boiled down to these 10 commandments and not all the nonsense magical belief system, I'd be cool with that) I italicized the one below that I BARELY give him a pass on.
1) Thou shalt have no other gods before me: Um...he worships money and power and porn stars...those are his Gods. Mr. "Two Corinthians" wouldn't know a Bible verse if it hit him in the face.
2) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven images: Um...his life is an idol...to HIMSELF.
3) Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain: Um...yeah right. He's on tape doing that. Even I have done that (though it's not a habit of mine), and I'm the best there is.
4) Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy: Um...he's not a religious person. He doesn't keep the Sabbath holy. Give me a freakin' break you Christians who believe Trump is a "man of God." WTF is wrong with you people?
5) Honor thy father and thy mother: Um...he has done anything but that. He has said horrible things about both of his parents even though Daddy is the only reason he has money, and he went against Fred Trump's wishes and has run Fred Trump's company into the ground.
6) Thou shalt not kill: Um...I won't count this one as a FOR SURE, but it could be argued that his stance and slow action on COVID-19 directly led to the death of thousands if not more, and it could be argued that his Jan. 6 nonsense led to the death of several on that day. I certainly wouldn't defend him on this one.
7) Thou shalt not commit adultery: Um...holy freakin' crap! The only question is how many times did he do this for each wife?
8) Thou shalt not steal: Um...his Trump Foundation was taken away because of his fraud (stealing). His Trump Organization is about to be dissolved because of his stealing. He has ripped people off for decades (stealing).
9) Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor: Um...LYING?! He has probably told more lies than anyone ever.
10) Thou shalt not covet (not thy neighbor's wife or neighbor's house or anything else): Um...right. Shall not covet your son-in-law's wife either.
First off, haven't you and I been on this thread long enough for you to know that you're preaching to the choir? I don't want to put too much time into this, but off the top of my head, the following, probably top 3, categories come to mind:
1) People who pay very, very little attention to the news. They ACTUALLY don't know much about just how bad he is. On the one hand, that sounds crazy. On the other hand, lots of people couldn't find India on a map if their lives depended on it. If you can have tens of millions of the latter, you can have tens of millions of the former.
2) People who know a far bit more about him, but are weak enough thinkers that right-wing media, through a lack of coverage of him and dishonest and hyperbolic coverage of "the other side," has them not seeing things accurately.
3) PEOPLE ARE COMPLICATED AND STRANGE AND PERPLEXING AND SURPRISING AND CONTRADICTORY AND.....
And again, this is a GOOD thing. There are people who own lots of red hats and have FJB stickers on their trucks and even marched on the capitol on 6 Jan. who would pull over and risk their lives saving you from your burning vehicle this evening. Or take your family in for months if your house burned down tonight. And a million other examples.
First off, haven't you and I been on this thread long enough for you to know that you're preaching to the choir? I don't want to put too much time into this, but off the top of my head, the following, probably top 3, categories come to mind:
1) People who pay very, very little attention to the news. They ACTUALLY don't know much about just how bad he is. On the one hand, that sounds crazy. On the other hand, lots of people couldn't find India on a map if their lives depended on it. If you can have tens of millions of the latter, you can have tens of millions of the former.
2) People who know a far bit more about him, but are weak enough thinkers that right-wing media, through a lack of coverage of him and dishonest and hyperbolic coverage of "the other side," has them not seeing things accurately.
3) PEOPLE ARE COMPLICATED AND STRANGE AND PERPLEXING AND SURPRISING AND CONTRADICTORY AND.....
And again, this is a GOOD thing. There are people who own lots of red hats and have FJB stickers on their trucks and even marched on the capitol on 6 Jan. who would pull over and risk their lives saving you from your burning vehicle this evening. Or take your family in for months if your house burned down tonight. And a million other examples.
True! Many of us have lost loved ones to Fox News. They are kind and rational people in many areas of life. But if any conversation veers towards world events they recite exactly what Fox has been telling them word for word. And the most insane beliefs about Trump are deeply ingrained. They totally tune out any faults of Trump as fake news. They are living in a different reality and they like it there.
In the gym the TV must be on Fox News or else! And they sit there watching it and shaking their head in disgust. Totally buying into the propaganda fear mongering and agitprop,
Fox News and Rush Limbaugh have done immeasurable damage to this country.
If you weren't wrong about this, your life would suck a LOT more than it does. Whether you get out a little or a lot (ranging from a few retirement errands to a high-exposure full-time job + high social activity), you're running into polite, helpful, nice Trump VOTERS all the time.
This is a good thing, not a bad thing. If we were going zero-for-two on this, life would REALLY suck.
Just because someone appears polite and helpful out in society doesn't mean they are a good person. Many people do that because it is socially acceptable or because they don't want to have to bother with getting into it with someone. True colors are shown when voting for a sinful amoral POS criminal wannabe dictator. What we vote FOR and vote AGAINST speaks to our character, ESPECIALLY when we are talking about a person as flawed as Donald Trump.
I submit to you that he has FOR SURE broken 9 of the 10 Commandments (which SHOULD be important to Christians who support him and IS important to me, because if Christianity were boiled down to these 10 commandments and not all the nonsense magical belief system, I'd be cool with that) I italicized the one below that I BARELY give him a pass on.
1) Thou shalt have no other gods before me: Um...he worships money and power and porn stars...those are his Gods. Mr. "Two Corinthians" wouldn't know a Bible verse if it hit him in the face.
2) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven images: Um...his life is an idol...to HIMSELF.
3) Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain: Um...yeah right. He's on tape doing that. Even I have done that (though it's not a habit of mine), and I'm the best there is.
4) Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy: Um...he's not a religious person. He doesn't keep the Sabbath holy. Give me a freakin' break you Christians who believe Trump is a "man of God." WTF is wrong with you people?
5) Honor thy father and thy mother: Um...he has done anything but that. He has said horrible things about both of his parents even though Daddy is the only reason he has money, and he went against Fred Trump's wishes and has run Fred Trump's company into the ground.
6) Thou shalt not kill: Um...I won't count this one as a FOR SURE, but it could be argued that his stance and slow action on COVID-19 directly led to the death of thousands if not more, and it could be argued that his Jan. 6 nonsense led to the death of several on that day. I certainly wouldn't defend him on this one.
7) Thou shalt not commit adultery: Um...holy freakin' crap! The only question is how many times did he do this for each wife?
8) Thou shalt not steal: Um...his Trump Foundation was taken away because of his fraud (stealing). His Trump Organization is about to be dissolved because of his stealing. He has ripped people off for decades (stealing).
9) Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor: Um...LYING?! He has probably told more lies than anyone ever.
10) Thou shalt not covet (not thy neighbor's wife or neighbor's house or anything else): Um...right. Shall not covet your son-in-law's wife either.
1. Sleepy Joe has enriched himself with Crackhead Hunter's help. Trump's net worth has shrunk as he no longer runs his company. His kids run the business.
2. Sleepy Joe worships money as his bank accounts have grown exponentially & illicitly.
3. WH folks have said that Biden's language behind WH closed doors will make nuns blush in horror.
4. Trump is a non-denominational Christian.
5. Trump has always praised his father and took his father's RE biz out of the boroughs into Manhattan & worldwide.
Just because someone appears polite and helpful out in society doesn't mean they are a good person. Many people do that because it is socially acceptable or because they don't want to have to bother with getting into it with someone. True colors are shown when voting for a sinful amoral POS criminal wannabe dictator. What we vote FOR and vote AGAINST speaks to our character, ESPECIALLY when we are talking about a person as flawed as Donald Trump.
I submit to you that he has FOR SURE broken 9 of the 10 Commandments (which SHOULD be important to Christians who support him and IS important to me, because if Christianity were boiled down to these 10 commandments and not all the nonsense magical belief system, I'd be cool with that) I italicized the one below that I BARELY give him a pass on.
1) Thou shalt have no other gods before me: Um...he worships money and power and porn stars...those are his Gods. Mr. "Two Corinthians" wouldn't know a Bible verse if it hit him in the face.
2) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven images: Um...his life is an idol...to HIMSELF.
3) Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain: Um...yeah right. He's on tape doing that. Even I have done that (though it's not a habit of mine), and I'm the best there is.
4) Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy: Um...he's not a religious person. He doesn't keep the Sabbath holy. Give me a freakin' break you Christians who believe Trump is a "man of God." WTF is wrong with you people?
5) Honor thy father and thy mother: Um...he has done anything but that. He has said horrible things about both of his parents even though Daddy is the only reason he has money, and he went against Fred Trump's wishes and has run Fred Trump's company into the ground.
6) Thou shalt not kill: Um...I won't count this one as a FOR SURE, but it could be argued that his stance and slow action on COVID-19 directly led to the death of thousands if not more, and it could be argued that his Jan. 6 nonsense led to the death of several on that day. I certainly wouldn't defend him on this one.
7) Thou shalt not commit adultery: Um...holy freakin' crap! The only question is how many times did he do this for each wife?
8) Thou shalt not steal: Um...his Trump Foundation was taken away because of his fraud (stealing). His Trump Organization is about to be dissolved because of his stealing. He has ripped people off for decades (stealing).
9) Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor: Um...LYING?! He has probably told more lies than anyone ever.
10) Thou shalt not covet (not thy neighbor's wife or neighbor's house or anything else): Um...right. Shall not covet your son-in-law's wife either.
But... but... Trump is a "person of faith", more so than Pence and Romney!
If you weren't wrong about this, your life would suck a LOT more than it does. Whether you get out a little or a lot (ranging from a few retirement errands to a high-exposure full-time job + high social activity), you're running into polite, helpful, nice Trump VOTERS all the time.
This is a good thing, not a bad thing. If we were going zero-for-two on this, life would REALLY suck.
Just because someone appears polite and helpful out in society doesn't mean they are a good person. Many people do that because it is socially acceptable or because they don't want to have to bother with getting into it with someone. True colors are shown when voting for a sinful amoral POS criminal wannabe dictator. What we vote FOR and vote AGAINST speaks to our character, ESPECIALLY when we are talking about a person as flawed as Donald Trump.
I submit to you that he has FOR SURE broken 9 of the 10 Commandments (which SHOULD be important to Christians who support him and IS important to me, because if Christianity were boiled down to these 10 commandments and not all the nonsense magical belief system, I'd be cool with that) I italicized the one below that I BARELY give him a pass on.
1) Thou shalt have no other gods before me: Um...he worships money and power and porn stars...those are his Gods. Mr. "Two Corinthians" wouldn't know a Bible verse if it hit him in the face.
2) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven images: Um...his life is an idol...to HIMSELF.
3) Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain: Um...yeah right. He's on tape doing that. Even I have done that (though it's not a habit of mine), and I'm the best there is.
4) Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy: Um...he's not a religious person. He doesn't keep the Sabbath holy. Give me a freakin' break you Christians who believe Trump is a "man of God." WTF is wrong with you people?
5) Honor thy father and thy mother: Um...he has done anything but that. He has said horrible things about both of his parents even though Daddy is the only reason he has money, and he went against Fred Trump's wishes and has run Fred Trump's company into the ground.
6) Thou shalt not kill: Um...I won't count this one as a FOR SURE, but it could be argued that his stance and slow action on COVID-19 directly led to the death of thousands if not more, and it could be argued that his Jan. 6 nonsense led to the death of several on that day. I certainly wouldn't defend him on this one.
7) Thou shalt not commit adultery: Um...holy freakin' crap! The only question is how many times did he do this for each wife?
8) Thou shalt not steal: Um...his Trump Foundation was taken away because of his fraud (stealing). His Trump Organization is about to be dissolved because of his stealing. He has ripped people off for decades (stealing).
9) Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor: Um...LYING?! He has probably told more lies than anyone ever.
10) Thou shalt not covet (not thy neighbor's wife or neighbor's house or anything else): Um...right. Shall not covet your son-in-law's wife either.
Flagpole - those are great and all but you forgot Number 11.
11) Thou shall not call people who you are having a discussion with "dumb MFers" "idiots" and "stupid A-holes."
Just because someone appears polite and helpful out in society doesn't mean they are a good person. Many people do that because it is socially acceptable or because they don't want to have to bother with getting into it with someone. True colors are shown when voting for a sinful amoral POS criminal wannabe dictator. What we vote FOR and vote AGAINST speaks to our character, ESPECIALLY when we are talking about a person as flawed as Donald Trump.
I submit to you that he has FOR SURE broken 9 of the 10 Commandments (which SHOULD be important to Christians who support him and IS important to me, because if Christianity were boiled down to these 10 commandments and not all the nonsense magical belief system, I'd be cool with that) I italicized the one below that I BARELY give him a pass on.
1) Thou shalt have no other gods before me: Um...he worships money and power and porn stars...those are his Gods. Mr. "Two Corinthians" wouldn't know a Bible verse if it hit him in the face.
2) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven images: Um...his life is an idol...to HIMSELF.
3) Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain: Um...yeah right. He's on tape doing that. Even I have done that (though it's not a habit of mine), and I'm the best there is.
4) Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy: Um...he's not a religious person. He doesn't keep the Sabbath holy. Give me a freakin' break you Christians who believe Trump is a "man of God." WTF is wrong with you people?
5) Honor thy father and thy mother: Um...he has done anything but that. He has said horrible things about both of his parents even though Daddy is the only reason he has money, and he went against Fred Trump's wishes and has run Fred Trump's company into the ground.
6) Thou shalt not kill: Um...I won't count this one as a FOR SURE, but it could be argued that his stance and slow action on COVID-19 directly led to the death of thousands if not more, and it could be argued that his Jan. 6 nonsense led to the death of several on that day. I certainly wouldn't defend him on this one.
7) Thou shalt not commit adultery: Um...holy freakin' crap! The only question is how many times did he do this for each wife?
8) Thou shalt not steal: Um...his Trump Foundation was taken away because of his fraud (stealing). His Trump Organization is about to be dissolved because of his stealing. He has ripped people off for decades (stealing).
9) Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor: Um...LYING?! He has probably told more lies than anyone ever.
10) Thou shalt not covet (not thy neighbor's wife or neighbor's house or anything else): Um...right. Shall not covet your son-in-law's wife either.
But... but... Trump is a "person of faith", more so than Pence and Romney!
Trump has larger Faith than both of those guys. Romney is a Mormon, ffs. He has no Faith at all. Any score is higher than zero/null (0). Pence scores high, but he even admitted he adopted most of his Faith through personal counseling from Trump.
A large group of protestors entered the Cannon House office building Wednesday demanding an Israeli ceasefire, resulting in several arrests, Capitol Police said. Three of the protesters were later …
Trump has larger Faith than both of those guys. Romney is a Mormon, ffs. He has no Faith at all. Any score is higher than zero/null (0). Pence scores high, but he even admitted he adopted most of his Faith through personal counseling from Trump.
Trump has larger Faith than both of those guys. Romney is a Mormon, ffs. He has no Faith at all. Any score is higher than zero/null (0). Pence scores high, but he even admitted he adopted most of his Faith through personal counseling from Trump.
Lol
i have strong and unwavering faith that Trump could teabag our right wingers and they would still believe he is a Saint.
Trump has larger Faith than both of those guys. Romney is a Mormon, ffs. He has no Faith at all. Any score is higher than zero/null (0). Pence scores high, but he even admitted he adopted most of his Faith through personal counseling from Trump.
Romney has faith in his magic underwear.
Therein lies the elephant. We have this rogue pygmy outfit running around the streets of Provo in their goddam wishbone underwear, while American kids can't even pray in their own schools without fear of prosecution from Soros appointed judges and juries. Ken Hagin predicted all this.
“remember like a month ago when House Republicans were all serious about impeaching Joe Biden, but their first hearing was a disaster, and then they just stopped talking about it? good times”
“remember like a month ago when House Republicans were all serious about impeaching Joe Biden, but their first hearing was a disaster, and then they just stopped talking about it? good times”
Trump supporters are so MFn dumb that they don't spot these self owns ever. There was not ever going to be a Biden impeachment, that was a minor circus act. Yeah, so they go from Gym clowning around as head of one of the most critical committess to McQ belly flopping left and right about going after Biden, to a total meltdown of their House, to no serious R left ever wanting to touch the speaker role, to Gym trying to be taken seriously and his minions attacking other Rs.
