OFFICIAL LRC President Donald Trump SECOND TERM Thread

*\'trump2028 wrote:

Next week’s Case on Tariffs is one of the most important in the History of the Country. If a President is not allowed to use Tariffs, we will be at a major disadvantage against all other Countries throughout the World, especially the “Majors.” In a true sense, we would be defenseless! Tariffs have brought us Great Wealth and National Security in the nine months that I have had the Honor to serve as President. The Stock Market has hit All Time Highs many times during my short time in Office, with virtually No Inflation, and National Security that is second to none. Our recent successful negotiation with China, and many others, put us in a strong position only because we had Tariffs with which to negotiate fair and sustainable Deals. If a President was not able to quickly and nimbly use the power of Tariffs, we would be defenseless, leading perhaps even to the ruination of our Nation. The only people fighting us are Foreign Countries who for years have taken advantage of us, those who hate our Country and, the Democrats, because our numbers are insurmountably good. I will not be going to the Court on Wednesday in that I do not want to distract from the importance of this Decision. It will be, in my opinion, one of the most important and consequential Decisions ever made by the United States Supreme Court. If we win, we will be the Richest, Most Secure Country anywhere in the World, BY FAR. If we lose, our Country could be reduced to almost Third World status — Pray to God that that doesn’t happen!

Oldrunningguy wrote:

JustMe22 wrote:

All are welcome to answer and thank you for doing so.

I could defend each of those cases on what I feel are their merits, as the charges were a tad more complex than how you explained them.

Instead I'm going to ask an asinine question, then explain why I think its irrelevant.

If Comey lied to Congress and James lied on her mortgage application, are their prosecutions valid?

I don't think so. I think they are politically motivated, and that the crimes, even if supported by evidence, should therefore not be prosecuted. I also think that Trump's prosecutions were political, and I'm in the minority here.

It's fine to be OK with political prosecutions, by the way. It's also fine to view Trump's four cases as non-political, and James and Comey's prosecutions as political. Again, thank you for answering my question.

Please defend Trump's cases on the Merits. I would love to read it.

Or for simplicity. Just pick one. The bathroom documents case.

Oldrunningguy wrote:

Oldrunningguy wrote:

There can only be two possibilities:

1. Trump is lying his face off.
2. Someone else is issuing Trumps pardons without his knowledge.

O'DONNELL: Why did you pardon Changpeng Zhao?
TRUMP: Are you ready? I don't know who he is
O'DONNELL: His crypto exchange Binance helped facilitate a $2b purchase of World Liberty Financial's stablecoin. And they you pardoned him.
TRUMP: Here's the thing -- I know nothing about it

Think about how difficult it must be to be a Trump lap dog in these days as his mental health deteriorates. His stooges in Congress are trying to spin a new propaganda campaign that all of Biden's pardons are invalid. Because of the "autopen". It is no doubt that they are doing this to please Trump and allow Trump to expand his retribution tour to Kinzinger, Cheney, Biden and others.

So Trump goes on national TeeVEE and sh!ts all over their efforts by saying he has absolutely no idea who he is pardoning. Kinda hard to spin that Biden narrative when Cheeto is publicly admitting he has no clue.

JustMe22 wrote:

*\'trump2028 wrote:

Next week’s Case on Tariffs is one of the most important in the History of the Country. If a President is not allowed to use Tariffs, we will be at a major disadvantage against all other Countries throughout the World, especially the “Majors.” In a true sense, we would be defenseless! Tariffs have brought us Great Wealth and National Security in the nine months that I have had the Honor to serve as President. The Stock Market has hit All Time Highs many times during my short time in Office, with virtually No Inflation, and National Security that is second to none. Our recent successful negotiation with China, and many others, put us in a strong position only because we had Tariffs with which to negotiate fair and sustainable Deals. If a President was not able to quickly and nimbly use the power of Tariffs, we would be defenseless, leading perhaps even to the ruination of our Nation. The only people fighting us are Foreign Countries who for years have taken advantage of us, those who hate our Country and, the Democrats, because our numbers are insurmountably good. I will not be going to the Court on Wednesday in that I do not want to distract from the importance of this Decision. It will be, in my opinion, one of the most important and consequential Decisions ever made by the United States Supreme Court. If we win, we will be the Richest, Most Secure Country anywhere in the World, BY FAR. If we lose, our Country could be reduced to almost Third World status — Pray to God that that doesn’t happen!

He forgot to thank us for our attention to this matter! I hope he is OK.

Here is a deeper dive into the case before the Court:

Link:www.scotusblog.com/2025/10/trumps-tari...

I found this part really interesting:

Judge Tarantino? wrote:

Judge Richard Taranto, an Obama appointee, wrote the dissenting opinion, which was joined by three other judges. He argued that “IEEPA’s language, as confirmed by its history, authorizes tariffs to regulate importation.”

That's an Obama appointee agreeing with Trump's position.

FantasyScotus, which predicts outcomes of Supreme Court cases, says "affirm" st 6-3. That means the lower court rulings, which state that Trump has exceeded his authority by imposing tariffs, will likely be upheld. Or, more directly, Trump is going to lose this one.

We won't know for quite some time.

Oldrunningguy wrote:

To argue that the bathroom documents case was biased political persecution means that you bought into Trump's BS narrative hook, line and sinker.

The national archives tried desperately to get these documents back without ANY fanfare. Multiple back and forth. Trump refused. Then they involved law enforcement to get those documents back and Trump refused. Then he lied. Then he lied again. Then his lawyers pleaded with him that he needed to return the documents. And he suggested that his lawyers lie more to the law enforcement and say they have them all. When his lawyers would not do that he obstructed his lawyers and lied to them. Then he hid the stuff from his lawyers that were charged with overseeing the return of the documents. Following this he enlisted his Mar A Lago employees to destroy evidence of his obstruction. When the FBI raided his home they gave him advance notice. They wore plain clothes. All to tone down the event. And they even missed a closet that they should have looked at in deference to the fact he was the President.

And during all of this, Trump was lying publicly giving all sorts of different versions of how he is right. Like he declassified the documents by thinking about them. He had no classified documents. All he had was personal memorabilia. The FBI planted the documents etc, etc.

How can you call that political weaponization? Trump's gross criminality brought case upon himself.

Oldrunningguy wrote:

JustMe22 wrote:

[Am I being civil or just pretending?]

Please defend Trump's cases on the Merits. I would love to read it.

Or for simplicity. Just pick one. The bathroom documents case.