Official LRC President Joseph R Biden Thread

Sally Vix wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

Maybe you are just stuck in a 50s definition of infrastructure. Besides, the guy is actually trying to address stuff like clean drinking water which everyone assumes we already have. You should be happy we now have a president who gives a crap.

Perhaps I AM stuck back in the 50s - maybe even the 30s but this is what Oxford Languages define as infrastructure CURRENTLY:

the basic physical and organizational structures and facilities (e.g. buildings, roads, power supplies) needed for the operation of a society or enterprise.

"the social and economic infrastructure of a country"

No mention of expansions of liberal pork projects, no mentions of increasing the salaries of liberal administrators, no mention of HALF OF TRILLION for Global Warming crap, no mention ....

I guess to agip's point you can just google American Jobs Bill and let us know if it was meant to be just infrastructure.

Could she lie a little more? 🤡

https://www.foxnews.com/media/psaki-blames-nature-of-media-for-being-big-driver-behind-push-to-say-theres-a-border-crisis

This administration has been a clown show since day 1. 👎🤦‍♂️💤💤💤💤

Worth repeating:

agip wrote:

Just note that calling it an infrastructure bill isn't quite true. Dems shouldn't be doing that.

It's mostly Repubs who call it that.

It's called the American *Jobs* Bill. Because it isn't meant to be just infrastructure. It's about building the lower and middle class up so they can power the economy.

Hambeau wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

The Covid "recovery" bill had the majority of it spent on expansions of liberal programs. It was more a pork bill than a Covid recovery bill

The "infrastructure" bill is again a big lie by Biden and Liberals. Please pay attention to the following: Only 1/20 or 5% is slated for actual infrastructure stuff like bridges and highways. 25% or 1/4 is slated for phony-baloney Global Warming crap ... I e., we are throwing the money down the crapper. The Liberals in Congress are about as dishonest of anyone in history. Really reprehensible people. Just a shame.

They call it an infrastructure bill because the rubes like whataboutinator aren’t smart enough to actually read what’s in the bill. He’ll just regurgitate whatever is on his Twitter feed. 😂😂🤡🤡🥊🍗👌💤💤❤️🐧

How the heck does Ginamator have time to read the actual bills? He is too busy posting his lame videos and searching for other lame videos to post.

Trollminator wrote:

appled wrote:

The Rs need to do what political parties around the world have done since the invention of political parties. That is, adapt their platform and policies. Successful political parties are not static entities, they adapt to meet the needs of the voters, whose interests change over time, and if they don't they die.

It is apparent that is what they think they are doing. They laid a foundation for creating the current conservative and after watching them vote in record numbers and storm the capitol for an orange make up wearing conman and sore loser, they really believe in the trump strategy. In a sense, the GOP did die leading up to 2016 and this is their fully developed new version, the GQP.

A few people stormed the Capitol just like a few people tore up cities around our country over a supposed racist cop. The GOP isn't dead yet, it's just lead by some people with no balls.

AlohaState wrote:

Why aren’t any of you concerned about the $10 trillion in additional spending (infrastructure and budget increases) on top of $5.3 trillion spent on Covid recovery? That’s the only issue you should be focusing on, as it will effect you more than any other policy.

Both parties are responsible for this irresponsible off-the-charts spending. We will pay for it dearly. Back to your tribalism.

facing it wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

It is apparent that is what they think they are doing. They laid a foundation for creating the current conservative and after watching them vote in record numbers and storm the capitol for an orange make up wearing conman and sore loser, they really believe in the trump strategy. In a sense, the GOP did die leading up to 2016 and this is their fully developed new version, the GQP.

A few people stormed the Capitol just like a few people tore up cities around our country over a supposed racist cop. The GOP isn't dead yet, it's just lead by some people with no balls.

Balls like your hero had?

Why would he have to admit that? Who would force him to say it?

facing it wrote:

AlohaState wrote:

Why aren’t any of you concerned about the $10 trillion in additional spending (infrastructure and budget increases) on top of $5.3 trillion spent on Covid recovery? That’s the only issue you should be focusing on, as it will effect you more than any other policy.

Both parties are responsible for this irresponsible off-the-charts spending. We will pay for it dearly. Back to your tribalism.

False equivalency. Both parties ran up big deficits but Democrats are currently trying to take it to a new order of magnitude. If they actually pass their $6T in spending and it leads to inflation (or austerity measures to avoid inflation) that's on them.

facing it wrote:

AlohaState wrote:

Why aren’t any of you concerned about the $10 trillion in additional spending (infrastructure and budget increases) on top of $5.3 trillion spent on Covid recovery? That’s the only issue you should be focusing on, as it will effect you more than any other policy.

Both parties are responsible for this irresponsible off-the-charts spending. We will pay for it dearly. Back to your tribalism.

As long as interest rates are low, it makes perfect sense to invest in the future economy. As long as the economy grows faster than the interest payments, it's a smart investment.

The dumb investment was cutting taxes on the rich and assuming that would grow the economy.

Regan was wrong. Trickle-down doesn't work. Can't we finally all just admit that?

Just growing the deficit doesn't matter. How and when you grow the deficit does matter.

So in summary:

Democratic deficits good.

Republican deficits bad.

Fat hurts wrote:

facing it wrote:

Both parties are responsible for this irresponsible off-the-charts spending. We will pay for it dearly. Back to your tribalism.

As long as interest rates are low, it makes perfect sense to invest in the future economy. As long as the economy grows faster than the interest payments, it's a smart investment.

The dumb investment was cutting taxes on the rich and assuming that would grow the economy.

Regan was wrong. Trickle-down doesn't work. Can't we finally all just admit that?

Just growing the deficit doesn't matter. How and when you grow the deficit does matter.

So in summary:

Democratic deficits good.

Republican deficits bad.

How simplicity retarded. good one.

Fat hurts wrote:

agip wrote:

It's less that McCarthy is implicated so much as that he'd have to say 'yes, I called Trump to call off his goons and Trump said eh whatever maybe good luck shoulda been more Trumpy I'll see you later unless the magas get you first.'

McC would have to admit that the attackers were trumpists and trump refused to help.

Why would he have to admit that? Who would force him to say it?

yeah I'm probably just fantasizing .

He'd be called as a witness but not show up.

agip wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Why would he have to admit that? Who would force him to say it?

yeah I'm probably just fantasizing .

He'd be called as a witness but not show up.

Or he'd just say it was a private phone call and refuse to answer.

Fat hurts wrote:

As long as interest rates are low, it makes perfect sense to invest in the future economy. As long as the economy grows faster than the interest payments, it's a smart investment.

Interest rates won't stay low if all this spending gets through. It will lead to inflation which the fed will need to fight. Guess what will happen next?

Hardloper wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

As long as interest rates are low, it makes perfect sense to invest in the future economy. As long as the economy grows faster than the interest payments, it's a smart investment.

Interest rates won't stay low if all this spending gets through. It will lead to inflation which the fed will need to fight. Guess what will happen next?

No, it’s not “all this spending” that will lead to inflation. That is some trump U knowledge.

Hardloper wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

As long as interest rates are low, it makes perfect sense to invest in the future economy. As long as the economy grows faster than the interest payments, it's a smart investment.

Interest rates won't stay low if all this spending gets through. It will lead to inflation which the fed will need to fight. Guess what will happen next?

This is a tacit admission that I am right.

Large spending programs don't necessarily lead to inflation. We have seen that many, many times already.

If it does get too expensive to borrow then you need to stop. But as long as money is cheap it makes perfect sense to invest in the economy. In fact, the very worst thing we could do is refuse to invest in the future.

Republicans are always saying government should be run like a business. A smart business will borrow at low rates for future benefits.

Fat hurts wrote:

Hardloper wrote:

Interest rates won't stay low if all this spending gets through. It will lead to inflation which the fed will need to fight. Guess what will happen next?

This is a tacit admission that I am right.

Large spending programs don't necessarily lead to inflation. We have seen that many, many times already.

If it does get too expensive to borrow then you need to stop. But as long as money is cheap it makes perfect sense to invest in the economy. In fact, the very worst thing we could do is refuse to invest in the future.

Republicans are always saying government should be run like a business. A smart business will borrow at low rates for future benefits.

the problem with this is that we borrow today at low interest rates...1%.

but that debt will roll over in a few years.

At which time interest rates could be higher, say 4%, which would be very very damaging.

We are living too much in the present.

A new defense for Trumpists!

The same as the Twinkie defense but dumber.

Foxmania. Being convinced by right wing propaganda to commit sedition.

It’s not his fault man.

It’s Rupert Murdoch’s mission!

https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/1390378913646448644?s=21

agip wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

This is a tacit admission that I am right.

Large spending programs don't necessarily lead to inflation. We have seen that many, many times already.

If it does get too expensive to borrow then you need to stop. But as long as money is cheap it makes perfect sense to invest in the economy. In fact, the very worst thing we could do is refuse to invest in the future.

Republicans are always saying government should be run like a business. A smart business will borrow at low rates for future benefits.

the problem with this is that we borrow today at low interest rates...1%.

but that debt will roll over in a few years.

At which time interest rates could be higher, say 4%, which would be very very damaging.

We are living too much in the present.

Like I said, if it gets too expensive to borrow then you need to stop.

But the most expensive thing you could possibly do is fail to invest in the future when interest rates are low. That's what we have been doing for the last 20 years or so and it is why we are falling behind the Chinese, who continue to invest heavily in their economy.