The American people have no reason to hate Russians.
And, for the most part, did not until the Dems began this Russian collusion nonsense.
This ain't rocket science.
Of course we had to be taught to hate Iran.
Not trying to derail this thread but. Iran invaded American sovereign territory when they raided and over took the American Embassy in Tehran. They took everyone there into custody and held them for 444 days. Most nations around the world consider this as an act of war. Which by the way has not yet been concluded.
So yes, you're correct. We had to be taught to hate Iran. And technically our 2 countries are still in a state of war. Thank's for setting me straight.
You left out the part where the CIA overthrew the Iranian government in 1953 and installed the corrupt Shah.
The Iranian military, with the support and financial assistance of the United States government, overthrows the government of Premier Mohammad Mosaddeq and
I assume this post, predictably, is to demonstrate a source which used the word "surrender" referring to Azovstal combatants giving themselves up -- as if providing one example disproves that a great many news outlets use/used euphemistic phrases.
These feel-good substitutions say something about widespread (lack of) objectivity in news reporting - and in this thread.
No, the point is to demonstrate why Azovstal combatants holding out for some time was beneficial to the overall Ukrainian objective by depleting the resources of Russian troops that were tasked with capturing them.
This theme is being played up by the Ukraine military and Western media. That a long, hopeless holdout at the Azovstal plant drained Russian resources from the front lines, diluting and hampering Russia's war effort.
But last week, Time and other major news outlets acknowledged the Russian force remaining in Mariupol was smaller, with combat-experienced units already shifted.
"Taking the Azovstal steel plant... would be a mostly symbolic victory at this point, since the city is already effectively in Moscow’s hands and analysts say most of the Russian forces that were tied down by the battle there have already left."
That action seems complete now. Today, the last 531 soldiers at Azovstal surrendered, bringing the total this week to 2,439.
Their capitulation seems brought on by lack of supplies - food, water, medicine, and ammunition. Zelenskyy announced having attempted to re-supply by air, but that "a very large number of our pilots died".
Russia's defence ministry on Friday said the last group of Ukrainian forces holed up in Mariupol's Azovstal steel works had surrendered, marking an end to a weeks-long attack that left the city in ruins.
Not trying to derail this thread but. Iran invaded American sovereign territory when they raided and over took the American Embassy in Tehran. They took everyone there into custody and held them for 444 days. Most nations around the world consider this as an act of war. Which by the way has not yet been concluded.
So yes, you're correct. We had to be taught to hate Iran. And technically our 2 countries are still in a state of war. Thank's for setting me straight.
You left out the part where the CIA overthrew the Iranian government in 1953 and installed the corrupt Shah.
Like this. Carmine's desire to be seen as a contrarian is so great that he actually tries to excuse Iran's hostage take-over of the US embassy in Tehran.
Like this. Carmine's desire to be seen as a contrarian is so great that he actually tries to excuse Iran's hostage take-over of the US embassy in Tehran.
Even when you give these uneducated people the history they still don't get it.
Not trying to derail this thread but. Iran invaded American sovereign territory when they raided and over took the American Embassy in Tehran. They took everyone there into custody and held them for 444 days. Most nations around the world consider this as an act of war. Which by the way has not yet been concluded.
So yes, you're correct. We had to be taught to hate Iran. And technically our 2 countries are still in a state of war. Thank's for setting me straight.
You left out the part where the CIA overthrew the Iranian government in 1953 and installed the corrupt Shah.
I knew that. I think most people do. And like I said previously, I don't wan't to derail this thread. So the last thing I'll post about Iran is, you/me/we/us can always look back in history a play the what about this or what about that game.
That's backwards thinking. With that logic a person could go all the way back to when Cain killed Abel. And how would that be applicable to todays world/events. Let's get back on topic.
Like this. Carmine's desire to be seen as a contrarian is so great that he actually tries to excuse Iran's hostage take-over of the US embassy in Tehran.
Even when you give these uneducated people the history they still don't get it.
Unreal
I got "it" just fine. You believe the 1979 Iranian take-over of the U.S. embassy in Tehran was justified, if not necessary, because "the CIA overthrew the Iranian government in 1953 and installed the corrupt Shah."
All this Iran hostage talk probably makes you nostalgic for burning American flags in the street, eh?
Even when you give these uneducated people the history they still don't get it.
Unreal
I got "it" just fine. You believe the 1979 Iranian take-over of the U.S. embassy in Tehran was justified, if not necessary, because "the CIA overthrew the Iranian government in 1953 and installed the corrupt Shah."
All this Iran hostage talk probably makes you nostalgic for burning American flags in the street, eh?
Guys, I'm sorry for getting this thread off topic. Let's try getting back on topic.
If Carmine wants to argue with me or others about Iran, let him start that thread.
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Like this. Carmine's desire to be seen as a contrarian is so great that he actually tries to excuse Iran's hostage take-over of the US embassy in Tehran.
So in essence you support the overthrow of a legitimate government by a hostile powerful nation. The US empire?
Yeah, I'll bet that truth is coming. Probably just two more weeks!
Yep... zerohedge.
But, you're too stupid to understand that you're shooting the messenger. Mook testimony is one of .................. disinformation by the Hillary and her cohorts. And zerohedge is simply the messenger. Facts are very difficult for you, we know. That's why you don't like the messenger (or facts).
Russia is getting clobbered by the Sanctions The Ruble was 139 to the USD when the war started, Now The Ruble has shrunk to 58 and everyday it seems to get lower at this rate in 2 months the Ruble will be at Zero.
I knew that. I think most people do. And like I said previously, I don't wan't to derail this thread. So the last thing I'll post about Iran is, you/me/we/us can always look back in history a play the what about this or what about that game.
That's backwards thinking. With that logic a person could go all the way back to when Cain killed Abel. And how would that be applicable to todays world/events. Let's get back on topic.
History matters.
History did not begin in Iran with the kidnapping of the members in the US Embassy in 1979.
Russia is getting clobbered by the Sanctions The Ruble was 139 to the USD when the war started, Now The Ruble has shrunk to 58 and everyday it seems to get lower at this rate in 2 months the Ruble will be at Zero.
RUB to USD currency chart. XE’s free live currency conversion chart for Russian Ruble to US Dollar allows you to pair exchange rate history for up to 10 years.
I got "it" just fine. You believe the 1979 Iranian take-over of the U.S. embassy in Tehran was justified, if not necessary, because "the CIA overthrew the Iranian government in 1953 and installed the corrupt Shah."
All this Iran hostage talk probably makes you nostalgic for burning American flags in the street, eh?
Guys, I'm sorry for getting this thread off topic. Let's try getting back on topic.
If Carmine wants to argue with me or others about Iran, let him start that thread.
The neo-nazi Azov gang (that was hiding in dungeons at a steel works in Mariupol) surrendered totally as of today, some 2000+ thugs.
This news is obviously delayed by the (western) media as it is sad for them. However, there was a publication yesterday about those who surrendered earlier. They were surprised that nobody was tortured by the Russian army as their propaganda was scaring them.
Ukrainian soldiers have spoken about the conditions they are experiencing in a Russian detention camp after surrendering at the besieged Azovstal plant.
The neo-nazi Azov gang (that was hiding in dungeons at a steel works in Mariupol) surrendered totally as of today, some 2000+ thugs.
This news is obviously delayed by the (western) media as it is sad for them. However, there was a publication yesterday about those who surrendered earlier. They were surprised that nobody was tortured by the Russian army as their propaganda was scaring them.
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