Far simplier: the Russians could end the war by simply leaving Ukraine.
Which war are you talking about? Now or the one in East-Ukraine since 2014?
Russia came to end the war, not to start one. The only reason it's still going on, is because the West wants to play.
I understand that you're not a slav and don't understand the nuances of this situation, but at least try not to see everything in black and white.
Oh, I see. Rolling tanks and thousands of soldiers toward Kiev, leveling cities, and killing thousands of civilians (before eventually retreating with their tail between their legs) was supposed to be peaceful! I guess that's a slav thing I just don't get... lol!
Russians adore Putin. Russians are servile people and love those in power that tell them what to do all day.
Why do you hate America, Downie? The whole exceptionalism thing? I'm genuinely interested in why you hate America, Downie.
I do not hate America. Quite the contrary, I love America. But I can't stand hypocricy and double standards.
Please don't ask where I see hypocricy, I think you know or at least can imagine where.
I despise the Biden administration with all my soul, but illiterate Trumptards such as this are also helping to destroy America with their "hypocricy".
And Russia was not “forced” to invade Ukraine. In fact, they could single-handedly end the war by admitting that they illegally annexed Crimea back in 2014, acknowledging that Luhansk and Donetsk are part of Ukraine, and remove all their troops from Ukraine.
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This is like saying the Ukraine could single-handedly end the war by just surrendering. Or NATO could by disbanding.
Crimea was in Russian/Soviet control for 225 of the last 248 years. Russians lost roughly a million defending Sevastopol in WW2.
If you believe their election was remotely democratic, Crimea's citizens voted overwhelmingly (97%) in favour or rejoining Russia in 2014.
Did America "illegally" annex Texas? Does this map look familiar?
Actually, residents in the area now known as Texas declared themselves a sovereign nation independent of Mexico (and not part of the United States). Texas later joined the United States.
Oh, I see. Rolling tanks and thousands of soldiers toward Kiev, leveling cities, and killing thousands of civilians (before eventually retreating with their tail between their legs) was supposed to be peaceful! I guess that's a slav thing I just don't get... lol!
Oh you should get it though. Nobody killed as many civilians with drones as the US under Obamas administration.
Bringing peace and democracy to Middle East since 2001 while killing 200.000 civilians in the process. So much for "peaceful".
Far simplier: the Russians could end the war by simply leaving Ukraine.
Which war are you talking about? Now or the one in East-Ukraine since 2014?
Russia came to end the war, not to start one. The only reason it's still going on, is because the West wants to play.
I understand that you're not a slav and don't understand the nuances of this situation, but at least try not to see everything in black and white.
Why is your name American Downie? What is that in reference to, Downie?
I know why you can’t admit to hating America. You live in America and fear repercussions like losing your job or your spouse, or having your house egged and your lawn urinated on. Why don’t you move to Russia, American Downie? You will be loved there and can bash America all day without the subterfuge. Russia LOVES people like you, American Downie..
Why is your name American Downie? What is that in reference to, Downie?
I know why you can’t admit to hating America. You live in America and fear repercussions like losing your job or your spouse, or having your house egged and your lawn urinated on. Why don’t you move to Russia, American Downie? You will be loved there and can bash America all day without the subterfuge. Russia LOVES people like you, American Downie..
You are ways off here trying to guess. Just leave it at what it is. I love America, but strongly disagree with it's foreign policies.
I also disagree with Russian domestic policies. Imagine that. The world is not a perfect place and something can be great in some ways and terrible in other.
Oh, I see. Rolling tanks and thousands of soldiers toward Kiev, leveling cities, and killing thousands of civilians (before eventually retreating with their tail between their legs) was supposed to be peaceful! I guess that's a slav thing I just don't get... lol!
Oh you should get it though. Nobody killed as many civilians with drones as the US under Obamas administration.
Bringing peace and democracy to Middle East since 2001 while killing 200.000 civilians in the process. So much for "peaceful".
So we agree that Russia's actions are despicable and it's good they are losing. Good!
So we agree that Russia's actions are despicable and it's good they are losing. Good!
Ukraine has no military infrastructure left, 30% of civilian infrastructure is destroyed, the famed AZOV heroes are POWs in Donetsk and Mariupol has fallen. No NATO and no EU.
Sure sounds like Ukraine is winning here.
Oh wait, McDonalds left Russia, so they must be losing. LOL.
The Russians served themselves well during WWII, but since then they have really been no different than Hitlers Nazis.
Russian soldiers were useless, inept cowards during WWII. Pretty much the same as they are now.
These twits on here celebrating the destruction of Mariupol only highlight Russian military incompetence. 82 days into a war, and Russian finally occupies a city 30 miles from the Russian border, losing thousands of troops and major military equipment in the process. Not exactly forward projection of power. When is the retreat scheduled for?
Give these Russian scumbags that blew up Mariupol a participation trophy and give their LRC Russia fan group here some amobarbital.
You really seem to hate Russians, and hate anyone who doesn't hate them as much as you.
You know what I do when someone corrects me on these boards? I thank them. It is not at all surprising, but still rather sad, that you are to insecure to simply do that.
That should be "too insecure to simply to do that."
So we agree that Russia's actions are despicable and it's good they are losing. Good!
Ukraine has no military infrastructure left, 30% of civilian infrastructure is destroyed, the famed AZOV heroes are POWs in Donetsk and Mariupol has fallen. No NATO and no EU.
Sure sounds like Ukraine is winning here.
Oh wait, McDonalds left Russia, so they must be losing. LOL.
Rofl the "Russia is winning" people are still saying this? They've changed their war goals 5 times now. Retreated from nearly all of Ukraine. Sure, another Slavic misunderstanding of "win" I imagine.
So we agree that Russia's actions are despicable and it's good they are losing. Good!
Ukraine has no military infrastructure left, 30% of civilian infrastructure is destroyed, the famed AZOV heroes are POWs in Donetsk and Mariupol has fallen. No NATO and no EU.
Sure sounds like Ukraine is winning here.
Oh wait, McDonalds left Russia, so they must be losing. LOL.
That’s a really ridiculous post. Think about all the obvious omissions (Kyiv, Kharkiv, Moskva, Vodka), and also your exaggerations and strawmen.
Posts with that much rhetoric and hyperbole are why people believe you hate America. That and your name “American Downie” which you refuse to explain.
What other names have you posted under in this thread? Don’t lie. I know when you are lying.
You know what I do when someone corrects me on these boards? I thank them. It is not at all surprising, but still rather sad, that you are to insecure to simply do that.
That should be "too insecure to simply to do that."
And Russia was not “forced” to invade Ukraine. In fact, they could single-handedly end the war by admitting that they illegally annexed Crimea back in 2014, acknowledging that Luhansk and Donetsk are part of Ukraine, and remove all their troops from Ukraine.
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This is like saying the Ukraine could single-handedly end the war by just surrendering. Or NATO could by disbanding.
Crimea was in Russian/Soviet control for 225 of the last 248 years. Russians lost roughly a million defending Sevastopol in WW2.
If you believe their election was remotely democratic, Crimea's citizens voted overwhelmingly (97%) in favour or rejoining Russia in 2014.
Did America "illegally" annex Texas? Does this map look familiar?
No. It’s not. If Russia chooses to withdraw they lost pride. If Ukraine chooses to withdraw they lose their country. The disparate outcomes of what you deem equivalent actions makes them wholly unequal. You know this, so stop playing dumb (unless it’s not an act).
So what? Crimea was not part of Russia in 2013 and most civilized nations realize it’s not part of Russia now. If I sell you an antique car that I’ve owned for the last 50 years, can I just come take it back after a year? After all, it’s been in my possession for 50 of the last 51 years. No. That would be illegal.
Nobody believes the referendum in Crimea was even remotely democratic. Just like similar referendums that Russia will hold in territory they occupy in Ukraine will not be democratic. Unless The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea is your model for democracy.
