Official LRC President Joseph R Biden Thread

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Again, their profit margin on autos, even without regulatory credits and Bitcoin, is 22%. And that profit margin continues to grow as they build more factories and reach economies of scale.

Tesla is hugely profitable now and they will be even more so in the future. That's why I've made a bundle on Tesla stock.

https://www.businessinsider.com/electric-car-owners-switching-gas-charging-a-hassle-study-2021-4

That's the article that started this conversation. Unfortunately, we can't actually see the details of the research without paying.

Business Insider paints it as bad news for EVs. But it's saying that 80% of people why buy an EV don't want to switch back. That's lower than other studies I've seen, but it's still very good news.

The charging problem is pretty easy to solve and Biden's proposal for 500,000 new public charging stations will be a huge help.

Fat hurts wrote:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

https://www.businessinsider.com/electric-car-owners-switching-gas-charging-a-hassle-study-2021-4

That's the article that started this conversation. Unfortunately, we can't actually see the details of the research without paying.

Business Insider paints it as bad news for EVs. But it's saying that 80% of people why buy an EV don't want to switch back. That's lower than other studies I've seen, but it's still very good news.

The charging problem is pretty easy to solve and Biden's proposal for 500,000 new public charging stations will be a huge help.

the charging problem is not easy to solve. You can't go to NYC, Boston, SF, Chicago and elsewhere and dig up every sidewalk to install plugs. Well you could, but it would take decades of environmental impact reports and trillions of dollars, plus massive disruption to life.

agip wrote:

Wall Street keeps upping its estimate of GDP growth in the US.

Good for the US, good for the Dems.

Although these things are so partisan the Rs will claim they are worse off than a year ago.

Because you know Disney and wokeness.

https://twitter.com/jimpethokoukis/status/1389026579293081606?s=21

Biden wins re-election if he’s breathing and the trump lovers stay home devastated 😂😂😂👋🏻🎻

Trollminator wrote:

agip wrote:

Wall Street keeps upping its estimate of GDP growth in the US.

Good for the US, good for the Dems.

Although these things are so partisan the Rs will claim they are worse off than a year ago.

Because you know Disney and wokeness.

https://twitter.com/jimpethokoukis/status/1389026579293081606?s=21

Biden wins re-election if he’s breathing and the trump lovers stay home devastated 😂😂😂👋🏻🎻

You notice how the conservative talking heads are now spending 90% of their airtime discussing illegals at the border. They can't get on him for COVID response, the economy or even taxes (since he's actually just targeting the top 1% like he promised).

Yes, something absolutely needs to be done to reverse the situation with these unaccompanied kids coming in, but even with that he's not allowing illegals into the country the way right-wing media has characterized it.

agip wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

That's the article that started this conversation. Unfortunately, we can't actually see the details of the research without paying.

Business Insider paints it as bad news for EVs. But it's saying that 80% of people why buy an EV don't want to switch back. That's lower than other studies I've seen, but it's still very good news.

The charging problem is pretty easy to solve and Biden's proposal for 500,000 new public charging stations will be a huge help.

the charging problem is not easy to solve. You can't go to NYC, Boston, SF, Chicago and elsewhere and dig up every sidewalk to install plugs. Well you could, but it would take decades of environmental impact reports and trillions of dollars, plus massive disruption to life.

You can also install them in street lamps and in parking lots and parking garages.

So they really do an environmental impact study every time someone needs to cut a 2' x 2' hole in the sidewalk. I don't think so.

Thousands and thousands of charging stations have already been installed in inner cities. This is not hard at all.

L L wrote:

You know it’s mathematically impossible for everyone who buys a new car this year to buy an EV.

It's easily mathematically possible. I think you mean that it's not practical

Fat hurts wrote:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

https://www.businessinsider.com/electric-car-owners-switching-gas-charging-a-hassle-study-2021-4

That's the article that started this conversation. Unfortunately, we can't actually see the details of the research without paying.

Business Insider paints it as bad news for EVs. But it's saying that 80% of people why buy an EV don't want to switch back. That's lower than other studies I've seen, but it's still very good news.

The charging problem is pretty easy to solve and Biden's proposal for 500,000 new public charging stations will be a huge help.

Read the article numbnuts. It goes into why this is not good news for EVs.

Also read that people aren’t using the charging stations.

Anyone want to guess what the percentage of people who own a gas car and then buy another gas car? Lol

Racket, PhD wrote:

L L wrote:

You know it’s mathematically impossible for everyone who buys a new car this year to buy an EV.

It's easily mathematically possible. I think you mean that it's not practical

Actually, it's not about math or practicality.

It's not physically possible because we don't have the capacity to manufacture enough batteries.

The infrastructure bill includes "targeted grants to build or retool factories, which would promote increases in battery manufacturing capacity in the US and create a reliable and independent supply chain."

LOL to paraphrase Ana Navarro just now: They continue worshipping trump even as he does nothing but play golf, eat hamburgers and watch OAN to feel better about himself. Good luck "conservatives", bahahaha.

1) Supposing that the article is representative going forward, I'm having a hard time seeing where electrification of a mere 80% of the personal vehicle fleet isn't an enormous improvement on the current situation. We don't need to have a 100% solution when we're barely taking baby steps at this point.

2) The article isn't representative going forward because it points to an infrastructure problem that that is fixable and inevitable in the long run. The only real question is "how long" is "the long run".

On the virus front...

Vaccinations are down 1 million/day from the peak - down ~30%.

At the current pace of vaccinations (which will not be sustained), the US will reach 70% rates on July 26. Given the reluctance of large numbers of Americans to get vaccinated, it is likely we will never reach 70%. There will need to be substantial incentives put in place in order to reach that level.

New England continues to lead in getting residents vaccinated. By percentage of residents with at least 1 shot, NE states occupy the top 5 slots and the 6th NE state (RI) is 7th.

I haven't seen anything about it, but I wonder if NH has gone to a single shot strategy to get to as many arms as possible like the UK. In NH 61% have received at least one shot (1st among states) and 30% are fully vaccinated (below national average). No other state has a similar ratio.

Over the last 2 weeks in the US:

Cases are down 27%

Hospitalizations are down 7%

Deaths down 8%

MI, CO, PA, RI, & DE are the states with the highest cases per capita. Cases in all those states except CO are decreasing. Cases are rising in 11 states. Looks like the PNW may be the next area to be a "hotspot."

Here in GA...

Cases continue to go down - 14% in last 2 weeks. Positive test percentage is at an all-time low (4.6%). Deaths are dropping and are now at lowest levels since March 2020. Hospitalizations are lowest since June 2020

Vaccinations are slow. 35% with one shot and 25% fully vaccinated. I'd be surprised if we get to 50%. However, 90% of residents 65+ have been at least partially vaccinated which means the most vulnerable have a high level of protection.

Worst states, per capita deaths, last 7 days, with rankings of percent of population with at least one shot

NM (9th best % of people one shot)

GA (44th best)

FL (29th best)

PA (10th best)

NJ (8th best )

MI (27th best )

I don't see a pattern. It seems that vaccinations are not stopping deaths as you might think they would.

Probably has to do with subpopulations like white evangelicals and urban hispanics being responsible for more deaths than the general population.

agip wrote:

Worst states, per capita deaths, last 7 days, with rankings of percent of population with at least one shot

NM (9th best % of people one shot)

GA (44th best)

FL (29th best)

PA (10th best)

NJ (8th best )

MI (27th best )

I don't see a pattern. It seems that vaccinations are not stopping deaths as you might think they would.

Probably has to do with subpopulations like white evangelicals and urban hispanics being responsible for more deaths than the general population.

Yes, this is similar to how vaccination rates can't continue going up.

Local minima/maxima will be met on both ends and it becomes increasingly difficult to break those trends

So cool.

Would be great if we can launch a vaccine marshall plan to build international goodwill and restore some of the lost prestige of the US.

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The Blackfeet Nation this week provided hundreds of surplus COVID-19 vaccines to their counterparts from the Blackfoot Confederacy and other residents of southern Alberta.

Blackfeet Nation spokesperson James McNeely said the tribe has been looking for ways to use its surplus COVID vaccines, as about 98% of eligible residents on the reservation are fully vaccinated. They started by offering to bring shots into other counties, but supplies across Montana have been outstripping demand for weeks now.

"Then we started talking to our counterparts of the Blackfoot Tribe on the north side and said, 'What if we were to come vaccinate you?'" McNeely said.

That idea became a reality when the tribe was granted permission this week by Canadian and U.S. health officials to set up a two-day vaccine clinic at the U.S.-Canadian border.

Canada has struggled to acquire COVID vaccines, with only 25% of Canadians having received at least one dose, and many waiting months for their second dose.

"We actually vaccinated 450-plus folks in the last two days, both First Nation and non-first nation," McNeely reported.

He added many were able to get their second dose and that the tribe plans to return next Wednesday and Thursday. McNeely said there could be more clinics as the Blackfeet Nation continues to receive vaccine shipments.

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Marietta Tar Heel wrote:

I haven't seen anything about it, but I wonder if NH has gone to a single shot strategy to get to as many arms as possible like the UK. In NH 61% have received at least one shot (1st among states) and 30% are fully vaccinated (below national average). No other state has a similar ratio.

About 3 weeks ago, New Hampshire opened vaccination to ages 16 and up and to anyone regardless of residency.

Given their relatively small population and proximity to greater Boston, I expect they're getting a lot of college students and people from Massachusetts. So maybe they're just not seeing a slowdown in vaccination rates in the past three weeks.

Monkeys Skyping wrote:

1) Supposing that the article is representative going forward, I'm having a hard time seeing where electrification of a mere 80% of the personal vehicle fleet isn't an enormous improvement on the current situation. We don't need to have a 100% solution when we're barely taking baby steps at this point.

2) The article isn't representative going forward because it points to an infrastructure problem that that is fixable and inevitable in the long run. The only real question is "how long" is "the long run".

That's the point I've been trying to make. Only you did a much better job.

agip wrote:

Worst states, per capita deaths, last 7 days, with rankings of percent of population with at least one shot

NM (9th best % of people one shot)

GA (44th best)

FL (29th best)

PA (10th best)

NJ (8th best )

MI (27th best )

I don't see a pattern. It seems that vaccinations are not stopping deaths as you might think they would.

Probably has to do with subpopulations like white evangelicals and urban hispanics being responsible for more deaths than the general population.

I haven't seen any good data on subpopulations in this regard. It seems that vaccine hesitancy is hard to pin down with the usual buckets we tend to put people into.

For instance, it may be the white evangelicals or urban hispanics are just as willing to get the vaccine as the general population. I haven't seen any hard data to suggest otherwise. All I have seen is anecdotal evidence.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. I have seen evidence that Republicans are much more hesitant than Democrats. But among smaller subgroups, I haven't personally seen good data.

We've already discussed this. You secure your own borders first. Once everyone who wants one in the US has gotten one then you can start deploying abroad.

If people abroad are fed up and unsatisfied with how their country handled things then they can come to the US and enjoy the benefits of living in the greatest country on Earth while they share their talents (and actually get rewarded for their hard work to boot!).

agip wrote:

Worst states, per capita deaths, last 7 days, with rankings of percent of population with at least one shot

NM (9th best % of people one shot)

GA (44th best)

FL (29th best)

PA (10th best)

NJ (8th best )

MI (27th best )

I don't see a pattern. It seems that vaccinations are not stopping deaths as you might think they would.

Probably has to do with subpopulations like white evangelicals and urban hispanics being responsible for more deaths than the general population.

It could be several reasons.

Reporting issues: Vaccinations are reported in a more timely manner than deaths. In Georgia about 40% of the deaths reported each day over the last month were deaths that had actually occured more than 3 weeks before the reporting date. In Georgia they do have different graphs that show the date of death and the date the death was reported. The date of death (and case) graphs show clear trends that you would expect during the pandemic while the date of reporting is more haphazard.

Also, it takes time to die from COVID. If a person contracted a severe case of COVID, they likely contractred it months ago before vaccination numbers had reached any significant levels.

As you state, subpopulations are probably a reason as well.

Vaccinations should slow cases, then hospitializations and deaths last. The inconsistent timing of reporting on these items blurs the picture. Hopefully, in the next few months we will see a clear picture of the vaccination success.