MIAC Track 2017

The Open 800 is not a crap shoot. The final result will be

1.Hatton

2.Huffman

3.Haugen

4. Huffman

5.Whalstedt

DNF. (blinded by God's arrival to watch the Bethel runners)

DNF. (fell into the black hole caused by Huffman's instantaneous first 5 meters)

DNF. (stepped off when the second Huffman lapped him)

DNS. (too scared to start)

just ask darkh0rse. They're gonna run a 7:01 4x800 too.

me thinks jake and paul will come out of retirement to destroy the 1500, then a legion of angels will descend from heaven to gild them in gold! Amen!!

I like this 4x8 smack talk. Here we go, assuming for the sake of argument that everyone loads it and runs close to their best.

Olaf:

Bjork (1:53)

Coffey (1:53)

Eggers (1:56)

Lonergan/Lenz (1:58) for a time of 7:40.

Carleton:

Donny (1:50)

Withbroe (1:54)

Sikes (1:56)

Little Cook (1:59) for a time of 7:39.

Concordia:

Supinski (1:55)

Lillehaugen (1:54)

Solheim (1:58)

Nelson (2:00) for a time of 7:49

Bethel:

Hatton (1:53)

Huffman (1:56)

Haugen (1:56)

Klamm? (1:54?) for a time of 7:39

Gustavus:

Fredrickson (1:53)

Sandberg (1:57)

Fredrickson (1:57)

Madigan (1:58) for a time of 7:45

St. Thomas:

Karlson (1:57)

Jones (1:58)

Knowlton/Halbmeier (1:57)

Burback (1:56) for a time of 7:48

St. John's:

Bugler (1:55)

Lamb (1:58)

Zimmerman (1:58)

Raasch (1:58) for a time of 7:49

Interesting. Bethel, Olaf, and Carleton seem to be the A group, while Gustavus, SJU, Concordia and STU are in the B group, assuming again that it's loaded. Carleton has to be the favorite. They've shown in the past that they love winning relays at Conference, and they'd probably be the favorite even with Olaf and Bethel's best teams in the race. Having a 1:50 guy on the anchor gives them that edge. Bethel is probably the safest bet for second, given their depth of 800m specialists. Even if Klamm doesn't do it--which he probably won't--they have other guys who can run 1:57/8. Concordia has two guys who can hang with anyone but probably not enough depth. Olaf is the real wildcard. Bjork has been on the team in the past, but Eggers? Coffey? Unlikely those two will run, because they'll be focused on the mile, presumably. Olaf could be anywhere from 3rd to 8th. SJU is the likely candidate for third. Bugler seems to like running the Conference relays, and, if he's on it, they'll probably put together their best squad. St. Thomas and Gustavus are a toss-up, but Gustavus probably has the edge in having a guy with 1:53 potential either to give them a lead or to close it hard.

Final Prediction:

1) Carleton

2) Bethel

3) St. John's

4) Gustavus

5) St. Olaf

6) St. Thomas

7) Macalester

8) Concordia

Switch St. John's and Gustavus as well as Mac and Concordia and you've got it spot on! Not sure Frederickson can run 1:53 but they will still be very solid. I think Lillehaugen and supinksi with anyone is a decent team but not enough for top 5 with how deep 800 runners are this year. Lastly there is zero chance bethel runs Klamm in the 4 by 8 but they should still be 2nd or 3rd. Hatton, haugen, and the huffmans would be a solid squad. We're forgetting Hamline here and they have two solid runners in Krause and jewson. I would place them somewhere around 5-6

Why no Hamline or Saint Mary's there? I get Augsburg tbh, but the other two teams can stick in it.

Hamline:

Krause (1:52)

Jewson (1:57)

Gustafson (1:58)

Ozark (2:02)

Total: 7:49

Saint Mary's

Krogman (1:55)

Newsum (1:59)

O'Hare (1:57 converted mile (depending on what you use))

Borash (2:02)

Total: 7:53

Looking at the results from last year, you'll see that they got 3rd and 6th, respectively. Plus the WINNER was a 7:56, meaning that most teams will be in it at the end. It's always tactical early. You have to assume that to be in contention for the win, you have to get it to your anchor in about a 6:00, depending on who it is. 10 out of 11 MIAC teams can do that and still keep their main guy as the anchor.

If your anchor doesn't touch the baton until 6:00, you've guaranteed yourself a spot outside of the top 8

JustMe wrote:

If your anchor doesn't touch the baton until 6:00, you've guaranteed yourself a spot outside of the top 8

The race won't be until like 8:00. That's plenty of time to practice hand-offs.

various sources wrote:

Social media says food poisoning. Dude needs to have a good race soon or I say he's cooked.

Well, there you have it.

Another dud time by the 1500 boys at Phil Esten. Huffman may move up just for an easier win at conference.

It didn't help that Jerry ran about a 63 in the lead. Race was over at 400.

The Jerry vs Coffey rivalry is great and all, but it can really hinder a fast race sometimes. They were both so worried about each other that they didn't want to risk going out hard and letting the other win. The result? A 63 first lap and trying to make up time the last 600m where you can only do so much. Unfortunate. If the race would have had one or the other only, then it might have been much more different. They have both shown the ability to run solo efforts for fast times. But racing for the win sort of threw it out the window.

All of that said, it was a really fun race to watch sill. Excited to see what's next for them.

Also, Bethel's 400m runners are GOAT. Their 4x400m WIPED the field

Feeling a little less optimistic about this 800. Withbroe, Frederickson, Krogman, Eggers, Lillehaugen, and Burback, all of whom were in last year's final and made an impact indoors this year, have combined for 1 sub 1:56 800.

Cook-Gallardo, Ebner, Krause, Hatton, and Bjork are the only ones that have really shown they have a chance to win, and 2 of them are 1500 guys.

4x800 better be stacked. Prelims for the 800 is going to be very disappointing for a few people.

I think the 1500 is going to be the real race to watch at conference. Coffey beat Cook-Gallardo in a slower 1500 at Phil Esten, so neither will want to lead. The pace will grind to a halt and some of the speedier guys (Lillehaugen, Bjork, Cook-Gallardo) may have a shot at Coffey depending on how the race is run. Honestly wouldn't be surprised to see the MAC guys push it the whole way either.

What are Coffey and DCG even going to run at conference? 1500 for sure and Donson also probably does the 800. Does Coffey 5k? Do they 4x8? Does it matter since St. Thomas is going to win?

Also, Knobbe is back and Bugler certainly isn't dried up (looking at you, 9:16 steeple). Shame on you if you counted them out.

I both hate and loved this past indoor conference meet where Donson and Coffey surprised us by doing events we didn't anticipate they would run. Love it because we saw some great races, but also hated it because now we have no idea what they will run this up coming conference meet. The anticipation is killing me.

That said, I hope neither do the 5k. I so badly want to see this race play out with no favorites. Almost 10 guys with about a 15:00 5k PR fighting it out would be amazing.

I would assume Coffey does the 1500m, 5k double, though. Easy points in the longer one.

I feel like Donson will do the 1500m just as a dress rehearsal for nationals. Obviously the final will go out painfully slow, then it will turn in to a final 425m sprint. That's what usually happens, and to practice against one of the favorites to win the national title in Coffey would be great. I figure he will also do the 4x800m and 4x400m.

As for the Gustavus boys, it makes me happy that they are finding their groove and getting back to where we thought they would be during cross. It does make me sad that Knobbe isn't steepling, though.

Bugler is having a great season so far. I think people were worried after his poor showing in his 5k and that has overshadowed his performances so far this season. He realistically could score points from 800m-10k if he desired to do so, and that's range we don't always get to appreciate since he isnt as flashy as a Coffey or Donson who have similar range.

Any of our MIAC runners going to any of the big meets this weekend? I see Coffey is in the 1500m at Drake. Is Donson going anywhere?

Although the 4x4 won't provide any surprises with who wins it's going to be a real shoot-out for 2nd place. After considerable data crunching and a couple frosty beverages, I predict:

Bethel 3:14.5

Carleton 3:18.3

Gustavus 3:18.7

St. Thomas 3:18.8

And 5th place will be 3:21+

I like this 4x8 smack talk. Here we go, assuming for the sake of argument that everyone loads it and runs close to their best.

Olaf:

Bjork (1:53)

Coffey (1:53)

Eggers (1:56)

Lonergan/Lenz (1:58) for a time of 7:40.

Carleton:

Donny (1:50)

Withbroe (1:54)

Sikes (1:56)

Little Cook (1:59) for a time of 7:39.

Concordia:

Supinski (1:55)

Lillehaugen (1:54)

Solheim (1:58)

Nelson (2:00) for a time of 7:49

Bethel:

Hatton (1:53)

Huffman (1:56)

Haugen (1:56)

Klamm? (1:54?) for a time of 7:39

Gustavus:

Fredrickson (1:53)

Sandberg (1:57)

Fredrickson (1:57)

Madigan (1:58) for a time of 7:45

St. Thomas:

Karlson (1:57)

Jones (1:58)

Knowlton/Halbmeier (1:57)

Burback (1:56) for a time of 7:48

St. John's:

Bugler (1:55)

Lamb (1:58)

Zimmerman (1:58)

Raasch (1:58) for a time of 7:49

Interesting. Bethel, Olaf, and Carleton seem to be the A group, while Gustavus, SJU, Concordia and STU are in the B group, assuming again that it's loaded. Carleton has to be the favorite. They've shown in the past that they love winning relays at Conference, and they'd probably be the favorite even with Olaf and Bethel's best teams in the race. Having a 1:50 guy on the anchor gives them that edge. Bethel is probably the safest bet for second, given their depth of 800m specialists. Even if Klamm doesn't do it--which he probably won't--they have other guys who can run 1:57/8. Concordia has two guys who can hang with anyone but probably not enough depth. Olaf is the real wildcard. Bjork has been on the team in the past, but Eggers? Coffey? Unlikely those two will run, because they'll be focused on the mile, presumably. Olaf could be anywhere from 3rd to 8th. SJU is the likely candidate for third. Bugler seems to like running the Conference relays, and, if he's on it, they'll probably put together their best squad. St. Thomas and Gustavus are a toss-up, but Gustavus probably has the edge in having a guy with 1:53 potential either to give them a lead or to close it hard.

Final Prediction:

1) Carleton

2) Bethel

3) St. John's

4) Gustavus

5) St. Olaf

6) St. Thomas

7) Macalester

8) Concordia[/quote]

The 4x4 is always interesting at conference. First place is obviously not even remotely debatable at this point, but 2-4 will be fun to watch. Carleton has too much stud power to not get second I think, as well as a history of getting after relay points. 3/4 on the other hand is the exact opposite. Not one elite runner between the 8 guys aside from maybe Fredrickson who isn't really a 400 runner. Speaking of which, It surprises me how consistent Gustavus' 4x4 has been the last 3 or 4 years for literally never having a really good sprinter or mid d runner. Seems similar to what St Thomas is looking like this year. Just 4 guys who are consistently fast but not really open 400 fast.

Seany B breaking 15:00? hot damn

What a race by Bjork. Rest of the Oles looked very sharp, too! The 10k and 5k should be interesting. Obviously we have the Olaf's squads in both, but Trevor Smith, Evan Jones and Knobbe could walk away with huge points. The 10k seems wide open and, assuming Coffey runs, the 5k will have a killer battle for second.