Katelyn Tuohy 5000m Prediction - What will her 5000 pb at the end of the season?

I agree with much of this, but on the tactics not so much in this 4x1500. If anything I think she should have gone harder on the 3rd lap to try to separate. But, maybe she was her limit. The fact is Gear has more leg speed than Tuohy so sitting in a slower race and hoping to out kick probably would not have worked either. Right now I think Gear (and others) would beat her in a lot of 1500 m races head to head.

exactly, i only post about tuohy and casually for nc state, dont care about others

now why are you talking as if tuohy have been in the ncaa for five years? "always" are you talking about her amazing two second-place finishes at her first national track championships ever??

um, did gear won something when she was a sophomore? coz sophomore tuohy already won titles and is a 5x all-american and has ran extremely fast times and she has until 2025 to do it repeatedly

What title? Are you now giving her a title because she was part of a team? I thought that being the best individual was the goal. So if she won a team title, then she lost a race here. Her split is irrelevant. Arkansas won.

That analogy doesn't work. In distance running you are running against the competition, but also competing against youself. A runner may not win the race, but the performance can still indicate the runner's progression and capabilities in the event. Did they run a new PR? Did they break a significant threshold in the event, running for example under 15:20 in the 5000 or under 9:00 in the 3000 or under 4:10 in the 1500, etc? Did they show improvement? All of that is relevant.

As to losing, if you want to define AA'ing and already being a 2 time national runnerup as failure, suit yourself. Same with smashing the previous CR at the Penn Relays. She was running against a redshirt senior who has very good 800 speed, so sitting and waiting probably would not have worked and trying for a gap might have been the smartest tactical choice. And if it was a tactical error, then much better to make it now as opposed to in June. That is why they raced in this event.

acc title, shes an acc champion, acc bronze medalist, plus national team champion after being national runner ups

exactly, tuohy ran 4:09 .. best individual as you say

jokes haha u gotta chill, i know arkansas won, and 4x1500m is a relay and you cannot win it by just running a fast time yourself, its pretty obvious how arkansas won and how nc state lost, whats also obvious is that tuohy dropped her 1500m time again

how many 15:14 5000m runner has a 4:09 1500m ???? none

there was not a tactical error here. you think KT should have gone with sit and kick on Gear?

XC is a team sport. But if you don't think the team aspect is important, then Tuohy has no national championships.

Tuohy doesn't have a 4:09 PR either.

except for tuohy

so ustfccca are lying ?

I don’t understand this logic.
Track is an individual sport. Sure, her team lost in the 4x1500 relay, but come championship time, she will be competing against these runners in individual events.
It makes sense that people would focus on individual splits over team placing because in case you were not aware: there is no 4x1500 relay event at nationals.

No she isn't a failure. What makes you think that? She is very successful. I said that she is good at not winning. She wasn't able to win the relay. She hasn't been able to win any national championships mainly due to tactical errors. At least that is how I see it. Maybe some of you just say that her tactics are what got her the 2nd place finishes at nationals because she isn't as talented as the winners but I think she is.

Last year Whittni Orton posted times of 4:09.31 and 15:12..91 If you ask me that is not bad company.

But there was one yesterday. They crowned a champion in the meet just like they crown a champion in the 1500 in the NCAA. Maybe you don't realize that there is no mile in the Olympics, but we still crown a champ in the NCAA. I guess you will downplay the winners of that event because it isn't an event in the Olympics. Maybe we should downplay 3200 meter high school state champs because the event doesn't exist in the NCAA. Racing is racing. She lost.

nc state girls said there was a race plan so i guess that was the race plan coach henes laid out

+ gear has a 4:09 1500m pr coming in this race while tuohy has a 4:12 pr

they lost she lost yea yea ... but 4:09

Her team lost. The Arkansas team won. It was not a Gear vs Tuohy race (unless you are ok giving Gear a 15 m head start). If you want to put that all on her, then I don't think you understand relays (But I think you really do and just want to fault Tuohy).

i guess theres one, and of course shes a graduate senior + covid year addition

basically a pro runner at college but yes i stand corrected tuohy has company