It’s not consistent to be proclaiming that belief while you are committing to a meet where you’re going to do exactly what you said you don’t do. Pulling out because you don’t like the course isn’t pulling out because you want to be consistent in not creating a hierarchy of fast kids.
Idaho boys in the latest top speed ratings list. It’ll be interesting to see how this changes over the next couple of weeks with the big of state travel meets.
They didn't commit to the meet, which in turn is a commitment to their values. Accepting the invite on athletic.net months before the season begins is far from a commitment. Coaches are in the early stages of organizing where they might race at that point and focused on the track season. Their staff must've decided it couldn't fit as a whole team trip, thus removing it from their schedule soon after accepting the invite.
Idaho boys in the latest top speed ratings list. It’ll be interesting to see how this changes over the next couple of weeks with the big of state travel meets.
47 Heemeyer
123 Stadtlander
125 Stockett
183 King
196 Cervi-Skinner
197 Ringert
326 Lucas
Multi year rankings for those currently in school. Top 3 are prior year, bottom 4 have their PR this year.
They didn't commit to the meet, which in turn is a commitment to their values. Accepting the invite on athletic.net months before the season begins is far from a commitment. Coaches are in the early stages of organizing where they might race at that point and focused on the track season. Their staff must've decided it couldn't fit as a whole team trip, thus removing it from their schedule soon after accepting the invite.
The post in question quite literally says “committed.” How do you know all they did was accept an invite on athletic.net? Sounds like some sort of insider knowledge into staff level decisions.
You just pivoted hard on the reasoning, as well. At first it’s that it runs on the track, now it’s back to the company line that it doesn’t allow it to be a whole team trip once you get pressed on it. You think the staff would have realized that a trip to Seattle would be difficult with 100+ kids before they accepted an invite to a meet there.
I was looking at the Hole in the Wall invite insta page and noticed that they said Rocky committed to that meet back in February but its not on Rocky’s schedule.
Anyone know why? Clearly they were fine with flying their fast kids to a big meet in February, so unless there is a change in belief since then, that’s not a reason.
February was over 6 months ago. Things change. The coaches are doing what they believe is best for their team. Not sure why some anonymous poster needs or is owed some sort of explanation.
I was looking at the Hole in the Wall invite insta page and noticed that they said Rocky committed to that meet back in February but its not on Rocky’s schedule.
Anyone know why? Clearly they were fine with flying their fast kids to a big meet in February, so unless there is a change in belief since then, that’s not a reason.
February was over 6 months ago. Things change. The coaches are doing what they believe is best for their team. Not sure why some anonymous poster needs or is owed some sort of explanation.
That being said, the Howards are open and nice people. Shoot Jeff an email and he may just tell you.
A little excel work. Scroll down and grab the 2021 and 2022 end of year numbers and merge them with the 2023 numbers. Put each year in a column and run an =max formula.
There's such a wide variance in how teams approached last week. There are plenty of schools that ran way less mileage and intensity last week and others that trained normally through it for whatever reason. Maybe Rocky sees big time improvements, but maybe those improvements place wise are limited because other schools that either were not at the meet or that had runners that ran close but trained through the meet see bigger improvements. It's so early that it's impossible to gauge
Rocky appears to have been running workouts at 5k or faster since at least early August, and their vaunted 8th Street long runs don't really appear to be happening much anymore (at least not for 3 weeks). That's what you see when you are trying to run fast NOW, not later. You can see that with their top guys. They are running around the same speed rankings that they ran at Caldwell, with the exception of Tuft, who ran in JV and dominated that race. Maybe Rocky was trying to hit a taper for Bob Firman and they'll try to cycle back up to hit one for NXR. It's still 6 weeks out, so they have plenty of time. I just don't buy that a team that has been running workouts at race pace for over a month and isn't running a long run consistently is going to ride out their current fitness until NXR and see big improvements along the way.
Probably have had enough discussion about Rocky traveling to meets or not. Criticisms and defenses probably both have some merit.
This stuff is actually interesting. Anyone have any insight into various program’s philosophies around training? CDA, Mt View, Meridian, Eagle, Rocky, Timberline, Boise, Centennial, IF are the most interesting ones to me.
It’s not consistent to be proclaiming that belief while you are committing to a meet where you’re going to do exactly what you said you don’t do. Pulling out because you don’t like the course isn’t pulling out because you want to be consistent in not creating a hierarchy of fast kids.
You may consider the idea that it's possible for coaches to have multiple "sections" to their philosophies....
1a. No kid has more worth than another - when possible only the whole team goes
1b. Any "xc" course that utilizes a track multiple times throughout a race really isn't an xc race
Or something like that. The point is, any given coaching philosophy doesn't have to be only 1 dimensional.
CDA does not have a new coach. It’s the same coach as years past. However, they are letting the head coach of NIDP coach the varsity this year because he trains all of these kids anyway and his son is the freshman on Varsity.