Young Kenyan 800m athlete busted for doping

Alberto Stretti wrote:

Just asked directly to Mr.Demadonna. Athlete doped doesnt work with him!! U are totally wrong!!

Alberto,

Coevett is not very wise. That is his problem. He makes things up just like Trump.

NativeSon wrote:

Doped to the Max wrote:

Very sad...Munguti tests positive for an anabolic steroid:

https://www.athleticsintegrity.org/disciplinary-process/provisional-suspensions-in-force

"Presence of a Prohibited Substance (Norandrosterone) (Article 2.1)"

The PLK lab in Nairobi is showing how prevalent doping is in Kenya with all ages and abilities. It's nothing short of a crisis when a 17 year old female is being administered dangerous anabolic steroids!

Ban Kenyan athletics!...enough is enough!

If we should ban Kenya, we should similarly ban Britain and the U.S.A.

A certain coach was banned for four years for malfeasance and crookedness.

Stupid post NativeSon.

Any cases of the U.S.A. or GB doping 17 year-old female runners? Any cases of big name runners from either the U.S.A. or GB getting banned for doping? (unlike the big names getting busted in Kenya - Kiprop, Jeptoo, Sumgong, Bett, etc.).

You need a better argument than saying the U.S.A. & GB should be banned because of the Salazar situation when the USADA report said there was no evidence of Salazar doping any NOP athletes.

You need a better argument than that NativeSon wrote:

You need a better argument than saying the U.S.A. & GB should be banned because of the Salazar situation when the USADA report said there was no evidence of Salazar doping any NOP athletes.

You really think Salazar injects PEDs to his pet dog and his son? LOL.

Man, talk about a Salazar apologist.

Let it go man. Athletes dope, don't think somehow athletes from the West have some sort of moral high ground and use doping as an explanation to why they can't compete with the East Africans ok?

You need a better argument than that NativeSon wrote:

NativeSon wrote:

If we should ban Kenya, we should similarly ban Britain and the U.S.A.

A certain coach was banned for four years for malfeasance and crookedness.

Stupid post NativeSon.

Any cases of the U.S.A. or GB doping 17 year-old female runners? Any cases of big name runners from either the U.S.A. or GB getting banned for doping? (unlike the big names getting busted in Kenya - Kiprop, Jeptoo, Sumgong, Bett, etc.).

You need a better argument than saying the U.S.A. & GB should be banned because of the Salazar situation when the USADA report said there was no evidence of Salazar doping any NOP athletes.

Well, I happen to know of GB junior teams in certain sports like swimming where all the athletes have asthma upon joining....

Bahrain has had good female sprinters,raqaya al ghassra and hajar alkhaldi,both supposedly bahraini born and bred.But ill bet my bottom dollar,they are really egyptian,or moroccan,or algerian .Either that,or raqaya was a man.She came out of nowhere in 2004,ran 11.38,and ran at the olympics.Of course she improved considerably after that,and i always thought there was something very strange about her.She looked rather like a man,and had a baritone voice.Before she came out of the blue the bahraini record was 13.98 which is way slower than raqaya .

LoneStarXC wrote:

Asbel Kiprop knew about the tests in advance.

“his case was complicated when it was revealed he was given advance notice of the visit by Kenyan anti-doping officers — a breach of testing protocol”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/athletics/asbel-kiprop-doping-ban-olympic-champion-1500m-a8879691.html%3famp

He also paid testers bribes, which he claimed he thought was for fuel or tea.

Does that sound like an anti-doping agency that works?

Now, I’m not claiming that USADA or UKAD are perfect. But it’s clear that AKAD has some issues.

ADAK weren't the ones who tested Kiprop. There is testing other than ADAK (WADA , IAAF, AIU, not sure what name they use. At least one of the testers named in Asbel's case has been testing since before ADAK was started.

ADAK appears to be doing good work. The amount of people getting caught is enough to act as a deterrent. It also suggests the rampant doping wasn't sophisticated but that it was incredibly easy to get away with it.

Re doping a 17 year old, if you look at her picture it's highly unlikely she is really 17.

LoneStarXC wrote:

Asbel Kiprop knew about the tests in advance.

“his case was complicated when it was revealed he was given advance notice of the visit by Kenyan anti-doping officers — a breach of testing protocol”

Didn't the testers come a day later than they announced (based on the twitter pics)? That would be hilarious, if done on purpose.

LoneStarXC wrote:

He also paid testers bribes, which he claimed he thought was for fuel or tea.

Does that sound like an anti-doping agency that works?

Of course not. The Nairobi lab can't really help with that.

LoneStarXC wrote:

Now, I’m not claiming that USADA or UKAD are perfect.

I can't see them announcing the test dates or taking bribes. But they like to close an eye whenever possible (beef-Wilson, airport-Rollins, missing tests Coleman, doorbell-Farah, salbutamol-Froome, off-score-Paula).

And often times they simply appear helpless despite large scale doping - even Armstrong was never caught by USADA until after retirement.

J. H. wrote:

Re doping a 17 year old, if you look at her picture it's highly unlikely she is really 17.

How old do you think she might be? Do you think it's possible the roid use might make her look older?

This is hilarious.

Just the other day there was a thread about why Kenyan U20 are so good. The usual myths were posted with only a couple posters aware enough to understand doping is systemic in Kenya all the way down.

LoneStarXC wrote:

El Keniano wrote:

Nope. If they did they wouldn't fail tests. ADAK works. It's an anti-doping agency tasked with catching dopers actually yielding results. Now USADA/UKAD are anti-doping agencies that don't work. They've failed to catch dopers, meaning they might as well not exist.

Asbel Kiprop knew about the tests in advance.

“his case was complicated when it was revealed he was given advance notice of the visit by Kenyan anti-doping officers — a breach of testing protocol”

He also paid testers bribes, which he claimed he thought was for fuel or tea.

Does that sound like an anti-doping agency that works?

Now, I’m not claiming that USADA or UKAD are perfect. But it’s clear that AKAD has some issues.

ADAK disowned that Kiprop mess.

ADAK are ignoring the noise and keeping their eyes on the prize.

The East African myth was just epo wrote:

This is hilarious.

Just the other day there was a thread about why Kenyan U20 are so good. The usual myths were posted with only a couple posters aware enough to understand doping is systemic in Kenya all the way down.

Letsrun logic: Kenyan junior, who wasn’t especially talented and didn’t have great prospects, busted for doping. Proof all Kenyan U20s are doping. No one in Kenya can run fast. They’ve been duping the world for 50 years.

Elsewhere on Letsrun: There are no Kenyan U20s

Also on Letsrun: Ban Kenya for catching actual dopers. It’s better when no one gets caught, that way we know everyone is clean.

Subway Surfers wrote:

Coevett wrote:

Her agent is Gianni Demadonna.

http://www.athleticskenya.or.ke/contracts/

He should be banned for life.

He's not her agent

El Keniano wrote:

The East African myth was just epo wrote:

This is hilarious.

Just the other day there was a thread about why Kenyan U20 are so good. The usual myths were posted with only a couple posters aware enough to understand doping is systemic in Kenya all the way down.

Letsrun logic: Kenyan junior, who wasn’t especially talented and didn’t have great prospects, busted for doping. Proof all Kenyan U20s are doping. No one in Kenya can run fast. They’ve been duping the world for 50 years.

Elsewhere on Letsrun: There are no Kenyan U20s

Also on Letsrun: Ban Kenya for catching actual dopers. It’s better when no one gets caught, that way we know everyone is clean.

dude el K, why do you keep ignoring me? who is her coach? who is her agent? who is her manager? who does she train with?

you want to blame this all on her coach as she is too young and innocent to dope on her own....but then you dont want to tell us who she is with and around...why? my bett is her coach is shady, her manager/agent is shady and the group she trains with prob has ties to other DOPERS, which is why you are so mum about it.

i love how al sal is the one who got busted but all his runners are now suspect...yet how many rosas runners have bitten the dust and he is innocent? lolz...only in kenya is the coach innocent of the runners doping, or the runners are innocent of the stopwatch holder with EPO (yes i know that was aden and ethiopia) but same diff

Another meatball "teenage" Kenyan busted. Mama Mia!

El Keniano wrote:

The East African myth was just epo wrote:

This is hilarious.

Just the other day there was a thread about why Kenyan U20 are so good. The usual myths were posted with only a couple posters aware enough to understand doping is systemic in Kenya all the way down.

Letsrun logic: Kenyan junior, who wasn’t especially talented and didn’t have great prospects, busted for doping. Proof all Kenyan U20s are doping. No one in Kenya can run fast. They’ve been duping the world for 50 years.

Elsewhere on Letsrun: There are no Kenyan U20s

Also on Letsrun: Ban Kenya for catching actual dopers. It’s better when no one gets caught, that way we know everyone is clean.

El K logic: Only the dopers are caught in Kenyan, everything is fine the house isn’t on fire.

You are living in fantasy land. Kenya is ground zero of the running dumpster fire of doping.

El Keniano wrote:

^Just so you know, the doper's name is Angela Ndungwa Munguti.

https://twitter.com/d9monti/status/1187314947086270464?s=20

Can someone explain david monti's lack of basic math skills to me? the provisional went into effect only two weeks ago, yet he asks "how a 16 y/o gets this in their system"... wtf? she was 16 LAST YEAR. Also, how many people (on this thread and elsewhere) can't figure out how to google (let alone have the basic knowledge of McGwire candy)??? Both Andro and NorAndro (several numerical modifiers to indicate specific compounds) COME IN SUPPLEMENTS. Geezus people, this is something that you can get at any GNC or even grocery stores. You really think Kenya is so backwards that they don't have common supplements available at any store in this country? More likely than not, this was simply dumb supplement usage. Doesn't excuse the crime, just means that all this conspiracy theory about "dirty agents injecting STEROIDS (gasp!!!) into kids" bullshnikes is just dumber than the presidents poops. Please educate yourselves and then you can start to talk about this topic, hopefully with a modicum of knowledge.

El Keniano wrote:

Really sad. A junior can't have the know-how to be doing that by herself. Start looking at who she's with and nip it in the bud.

+1. This is a definite sign of a systematic and widespread endemic doping culture extant in Kenya.

not a lawyer but play one on tv wrote:

Doesn't excuse the crime, just means that all this conspiracy theory about "dirty agents injecting STEROIDS (gasp!!!) into kids" bullshnikes is just dumber than the presidents poops. Please educate yourselves and then you can start to talk about this topic, hopefully with a modicum of knowledge.

Yeah, OK then. ?