Would've been almost within a minute of Rhonex. Nice work.
Would've been almost within a minute of Rhonex. Nice work.
Bob Schul Country wrote:
easyrunning?? wrote:
Yes. Few runners trains like this:
M: 10km am and pm (3:40/km pace)
T:
6x5min treshold am
10x1k treshold pm
W: 10km am and pm (3:40/km pace)
T:
6x5min treshold am
20x400m treshold pm
F: 10km am and pm (3:40/km pace)
S: 2x10x200m uphill, 6-7 lactate
S: 20km long run at 3.45 pace
Also, 3:40 pace is not "easy running", its not hard but its not easy either.
Come on.......you cant post one week of training that likely came months ago during a non race phase and call it a some sort of magic pill. Poeple post 1 week training on here all the time and its a joke. What is done before and after counts.
I am sure that he is pounding long VO2 max intervals leading into these races.
Nah, they really don’t.
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Try again adams state wrote:
Jakob the G.O.A.T wrote:
Jakob Ingebrigsten (...)
will win The Olympic Gold in the 1,500m, 1,600 & 5,000 in Tokyo!!(...)
Get back to me when you realize 1609 is a mile and not 1600
Both get back to me when you understand that neither 1600 or a mile will be run in Tokyo.
OldFish. wrote:
I think their easy runs might be slower or not always as fast. There is study with Henrik's training before becoming 2012 European champion and his easy days were around 4:30 I think. Pacing was HR based, so pace was result of keeping in prescribed HR range.
They have changed since that. Its 3.40 to 4.00 now (4.00/km is more usual when at altitude).
LateRunnerPhil wrote:
easyrunning?? wrote:
Yes. Few runners trains like this:
M: 10km am and pm (3:40/km pace)
T:
6x5min treshold am
10x1k treshold pm
W: 10km am and pm (3:40/km pace)
T:
6x5min treshold am
20x400m treshold pm
F: 10km am and pm (3:40/km pace)
S: 2x10x200m uphill, 6-7 lactate
S: 20km long run at 3.45 pace
Also, 3:40 pace is not "easy running", its not hard but its not easy either.
It is also what Salazar has (had?) his athletes run. He forced Farah to run much faster on easy days, dropping his easy pace from 7 min miles which he called junk miles to 5:50, allowing him to drop to 5:30 as the easy run progresses. Salazar limits easy runs to MAX 90 sec/mile slower than 5k pace, so for a 13 flat runner, around 3:40/k on the roads (faster is ok).
The thing tho and this is why HS or college athletes shouldn't copy that is that these elites CAN recover from the fast easy runs. They have a much higher VO2MAX, use FAR more and better supplements than the average HS or NCAA runner AND have superior recovery facilities/free massages/phyiso etc. Not all D1 schools even got underwater treadmills or Alter G, and certainly none of them use thyroid hormones or overdoses of Vitamin D like elites team do.
I said it time and time again - copying the training of Ingebrigtsen (or Salazar or any other elite team) is a foolproof way to overtraining and burning out, EVEN if the paces get adjusted to someone's fitness level.
Agree about the easy pace, as thats something the ingebritsens only have started doing recently. They have used years to be able to run at that pace for easy runs.
Regarding overtraining, you are mistaken. Basically all of Norway and now sweden (Kalle Berglund) has started copying the Ingebrigtsens training with double treshold. Its quite easy to avoid overtraining when using the lactate meter.
Saturday Long Run? wrote:
Yea this stuff about the Ingebrigtsens easy days is totally false. They run much slower than 3:40/km. As somebody else posted their easy days are HR based. It can be painfully slow. They even walk up hills if it’s getting their HR too high.
But LRP will find any excuse he can to repost his hate for Salazar about microdosing. Even on a thread like this with nothing related to Salazar/NOP at all.
Its not false at all. Its just new. Last fall was the first time they did it regularly. Walking up hills is for altitude.
Bob Schul Country wrote:
easyrunning?? wrote:
Yes. Few runners trains like this:
M: 10km am and pm (3:40/km pace)
T:
6x5min treshold am
10x1k treshold pm
W: 10km am and pm (3:40/km pace)
T:
6x5min treshold am
20x400m treshold pm
F: 10km am and pm (3:40/km pace)
S: 2x10x200m uphill, 6-7 lactate
S: 20km long run at 3.45 pace
Also, 3:40 pace is not "easy running", its not hard but its not easy either.
Come on.......you cant post one week of training that likely came months ago during a non race phase and call it a some sort of magic pill. Poeple post 1 week training on here all the time and its a joke. What is done before and after counts.
I am sure that he is pounding long VO2 max intervals leading into these races.
This is the training they do (same every week basically) from October until April. Then in racing season they cut down on the intervals and have 1-2 harder workouts on the track, like 10x300m in 1500m pace.
Jakob the G.O.A.T wrote:
Jakob Ingebrigsten is the future GOAT next to Kipchoge!!
He will win The Olympic Gold in the 1,500m, 1,600 & 5,000 in Tokyo!!
He's going to break Hicham El Guerrouj's 1,500m and 1600m and Bekele's 5,000m record for sure!
He even ran and kept pace with Kipchoge in the INEOS marathon. Proof that he is next in line to be the running GOAT!
Wow did you just start watching track last year?
Bekele is knees and toes over jakob and eluid in terms of accomplishments lol
wafflecopter wrote:
Would've been almost within a minute of Rhonex. Nice work.
Rhonex is a slowpoke. Very slow twitch. Would probably be over a minute slower than Jakob in the 1500.
shytcopter wrote:
wafflecopter wrote:
Would've been almost within a minute of Rhonex. Nice work.
Rhonex is a slowpoke. Very slow twitch. Would probably be over a minute slower than Jakob in the 1500.
His 10000 pace is 4:19 per mile, so . . .
shytcopter wrote:
wafflecopter wrote:
Would've been almost within a minute of Rhonex. Nice work.
Rhonex is a slowpoke. Very slow twitch. Would probably be over a minute slower than Jakob in the 1500.
slow is subjective here. you could argue that jakob is slow in the 10000
Were the first three tested after the race?
That's not all that fast. Barely quicker than a 28, and that wejo guy ran a 28.
westsouthrunner wrote:
shytcopter wrote:
Rhonex is a slowpoke. Very slow twitch. Would probably be over a minute slower than Jakob in the 1500.
slow is subjective here. you could argue that jakob is slow in the 10000
You're right. And you could argue that rhonax is super slow in ultramarathons. Possibly 6-8 hours behind Jim Walmsley. If he survives.
I calculate 3:32/k as equivalent to 5k pace plus 90 s/mile.
westsouthrunner wrote:
Jakob the G.O.A.T wrote:
Jakob Ingebrigsten is the future GOAT next to Kipchoge!!
He will win The Olympic Gold in the 1,500m, 1,600 & 5,000 in Tokyo!!
He's going to break Hicham El Guerrouj's 1,500m and 1600m and Bekele's 5,000m record for sure!
He even ran and kept pace with Kipchoge in the INEOS marathon. Proof that he is next in line to be the running GOAT!
Wow did you just start watching track last year?
Bekele is knees and toes over jakob and eluid in terms of accomplishments lol
Unfortunately for you, Jakob HAS accomplished more than what Bekele & Kipchoge have for an
Jakob is the goat wrote:
westsouthrunner wrote:
Wow did you just start watching track last year?
Bekele is knees and toes over jakob and eluid in terms of accomplishments lol
Unfortunately for you, Jakob HAS accomplished more than what Bekele & Kipchoge have for an
false. Bekele had a World Junior title. Jakob has nothing.
WOW!
Not an easy course and he was so controlled and powerful. He could probably go sub-27:40 on a fast course and in better conditions, if not faster.
Great race and footage. Basically a tempo run with a progression at the end.