This is probably Spivey’s mom lol
This is probably Spivey’s mom lol
mental retardation wrote:
{3.1}Miles Davis wrote:
Al turns 10:00 two milers into All Americans like a one-man factory. Dude is the best coach in D3 and its not even close. Thats why NCC wins every year. He doesn't need some scrub who doesnt understand its about effort level not exact pace telling him his reps are short.
I'm tired of this being parroted around here. He doesn't turn slow guys into fast guys. He gets already pretty fast guys and gets them to run 100 mile weeks. It's not fucking rocket science. Here are the high school times of the recent championship teams:
Dhruvil - 14:52/9:21
Baldonado - 15:32/9:34/4:27
Buechner - 14:48/1:57/4:26
Osmulski - 15:15/4:26
Z Hird - 14:52/4:25/9:41
Mckenna - 4:13 lol
Norvell - 15:28, couldn't find much but was already good on day 1 of freshman year at NCC
Borowsky - state champion two miler
O'Keefe - 15:35/9:53
Bailon - 15:23/4:37
And just for fun
Plank - 14:41 (was this short?)/4:25/9:40
So yeah, just a bunch of slow, untalented 10 minute two milers. Pretty sure any of the better D3 programs would have turned that first group into a few 60 point team titles. These kids do work very hard. They are driven by a cult like social structure and a holier-than-thou mentality lead by their head coach. Al does know his running. I just felt like the life lessons portion of the coaching was unnecessary and mostly wrong. Running is not like life. Running does not teach you life lessons (unless you were too stupid to realize working hard at something would make you better at it). Cross Country is a normal sport just like any other.
I didn't know of the story with the alcoholic turned all American, so I must not be who you think I am Mr. IthinkIknowwhoyouare. Although if you have to guess from a group of people you think were disenfranchised by the program, that would only prove my point.
And of course I am mad/venting. This is an anonymous message board. I don't understand why people don't abuse this more. I'm sad no one made any guesses, but I guess I'm only talking to North Central boys at this point so you probably already know the answers.
You sound mad. Maybe if you ran 0.9 mile repeats you would have gotten a flotrack video made about you too.
The sheer amount of energy you invested into this post brings me great joy. I can only imagine what you are going to do to your rage bone-r, right now. Please, for god sake, find a lubricant. Perhaps the tears, as a last resort.
Judy Pendergast ran the hill at Blackwell enough times for Naperville North to take it all the way to Harvard.
mental retardation wrote:
I'm tired of this being parroted around here. He doesn't turn slow guys into fast guys. He gets already pretty fast guys and gets them to run 100 mile weeks. It's not fucking rocket science. Here are the high school times of the recent championship teams:
Dhruvil - 14:52/9:21
Baldonado - 15:32/9:34/4:27
Buechner - 14:48/1:57/4:26
Osmulski - 15:15/4:26
Z Hird - 14:52/4:25/9:41
Mckenna - 4:13 lol
Norvell - 15:28, couldn't find much but was already good on day 1 of freshman year at NCC
Borowsky - state champion two miler
O'Keefe - 15:35/9:53
Bailon - 15:23/4:37
And just for fun
Plank - 14:41 (was this short?)/4:25/9:40
So yeah, just a bunch of slow, untalented 10 minute two milers. Pretty sure any of the better D3 programs would have turned that first group into a few 60 point team titles. These kids do work very hard. They are driven by a cult like social structure and a holier-than-thou mentality lead by their head coach. Al does know his running. I just felt like the life lessons portion of the coaching was unnecessary and mostly wrong. Running is not like life. Running does not teach you life lessons (unless you were too stupid to realize working hard at something would make you better at it). Cross Country is a normal sport just like any other.
I was about to come onto this to finally post and tell these guys to stop feeding the troll, but I guess you're not a troll. You're just a sad person.
Look, I never liked NCC when I was in college. I thought the guys on their roster back then were cocky pr****. But I never went on to LetsRun and attacked them just because I was mad those pr**** beat me.
I will bite on two things:
1.) Those high school times you listed are nothing special. Beside Dhruvil and the two guys that transferred from DI powerhouses, none of those guys would have qualified for state in the biggest division in Illinois. And you know that Illinois runs only 3 miles, not 5k in XC, right? I ran 9:29 in Illinois and was the #4 recruit on my non-NCC D3 team. Sub-9:30 guys are a dime a dozen now, even in D3.
2.) Running does not just teach you to work hard. Importantly, it teaches you that just hard work isn't enough to be truly great at anything. Running teaches you discipline. It teaches you not only to put the work in, but to build your life around that work. To be great at running, you have take care of your body. You have to stretch. You have to sleep. To have to eat right (most of the time). The reason why the NCC guys can handle that such high mileage is because Al encourages them to live like clocks. Wake up same time every morning, eat meals at the same times, go to bed at the same time every night, repeat x365. By dedicating their non-training hours to taking care of themselves, to recovering for the next run, is what makes them so good. Granted, a big reason why they're able to do that is because they don't have as much schoolwork as guys at the really good universities, but that level of discipline is admirable all the same. Plenty of college runners work hard, but very few of them do this. That's why NCC beats them. I can assure you that that type of discipline also lends itself well to being a great doctor, lawyer, or CEO, not just a runner. Not that any NCC grads are CEOs, but the point stands.
American men regularly now run sub 13 5k and sun 27 10k but marathons stuck at 2:07. What gives?
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