ALBERTO SALAZAR BANNED FROM ATHLETICS FOR FOUR YEARS FOR DOPING VIOLATIONS

not good

Shady Al goes bye bye wrote:

What a scumbag this guy is. Glad it happened

Alberto is a sociopath. However, does anybody believe that WOODY KINCAID is clean and running faster than doped Galen Rupp. If so, you have drunk the Koolcaid.

What does it really mean? I'm sure Alberto could convey workouts to Galen in some fashion. Carrier Pigeon? Encrypted phones? Some intern can handle the PED distribution if that still is a thing.

LetsRun.com wrote:

The main details:

-Salazar had been under investigation by USADA since the BBC/ProPublica report in 2015

-Salazar and Dr. Jeffrey Brown were charged by USADA in March 2017. They fought the case with Nike-paid lawyers and it went to arbitration.

-Per the BBC's Mark Daly, "the violations relate to banned steroids, prohibited methods and tampering with evidence to thwart investigators."

How is it that no athlete is getting a ban from this????

One time, running around a track, Paula Radcliffe ran past me. A drop of her sweat landed on my skin. I tested positive the next day for 27 different PEDs.

Don’t want to quote the above but:

Sounds like very similar information to what we already had. They were running L-Carnitine infusions at a rate above the accepted limit, Salazar was importing testosterone, and now it sounds like they attempted to change records to cover up their transgressions.

I would be shocked if this resulted in any retroactive actions against NOP athletes (I mean, nothing happened to Jama Aden’s athletes ...)

This doesn’t hugely change my opinion of Salazar. He seems to be

a) a win at all costs kind of guy

b) probably doesn’t think he was cheating, but constantly trying to push that grey zone (and crossed it)

c) lacking in the honesty and transparency category given how he lied and tried to cover things up

d) weirdly into medical interventions that aren’t evidence based

This doesn’t significantly tarnish my appreciation of what NOP athletes have done. As someone else said, a LOT worse is being done elsewhere and it wouldn’t shock me if Jerry’s group was similarly pushing boundaries. This comes done to AlSal being a bit of an ass and running some athletes/ex athletes the wrong way, leading to them coming clean.

I’m only surprised that they had the nards to suspend him. The results of his athletes made it obvious. Good on ya, USADA!

No athletes tested positive. They can't prove who was doping or not

Some missing former members:

Alan Webb

Amy Yoder Begley

Jackie Areson

Josh Rohatinsky

Am I missing anyone?

Unclear what's new here. This is all stuff from the reports from years ago. Most saw it as grey-area maneuvering so good luck convincing people otherwise today.

Surprising this managed to stay secret for so long

4 year ban is weak. Without serious compassionate grounds doping should be a lifetime ban.

And what about Jama Aden? When will his time come?

Without having read the article I would assume this will be appealed vigorously with the CAS

hellonerth wrote:

Shady Al goes bye bye wrote:

What a scumbag this guy is. Glad it happened

Alberto is a sociopath. However, does anybody believe that WOODY KINCAID is clean and running faster than doped Galen Rupp. If so, you have drunk the Koolcaid.

This sums up my disappointment with the whole situation. I have always had blinders on for NOP especially Salazar and Rupp. Mostly because if you believe that the kid who was pretty talented and was receiving world class coaching and utilizing Nike resources since high school has to dope to compete with the best in the world than how can you think that anyone else is clean. To me this casts suspicion on most other pro runners at that top tier. Maybe that is wrong but this certainly killed my zeal for the sport.

The Times has a couple of articles up:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-key-players-involved-in-the-alberto-salazar-doping-scandal-cmvdhnrsj

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/alberto-salazar-the-disgraced-guru-who-made-mo-farah-world-class-athlete-lvg9v9z7l

Idea ridiculous wrote:

And what about Jama Aden? When will his time come?

He's in hiding from the Spanish.

Alberto will now find, like Lance before him, that being an A-hole might feel awesome when you’re on top of the world, but when that comes crashing down, every person you ever dissed will have kicks aimed at your balls.

...because l-carntine is not a banned substance!