Hmmmmmmm wrote:
Just need the cheating Belarusian and/or either of the two Ethiopians to get popped and Shalane will have an Olympic marathon medal!
The article states that they are not likely to lose their Olympic medals because the drug test occured after the Olympics.
Coevett wrote:
Wonder what Canova will have to say about this one?
Well, he just said this yesterday:
Renato Canova wrote:
Blood doping is more important in SHORT DISTANCES (800 - 1500m) than in long distances.
... for a race of 2 hours the negative effects are superior of the positive effects
So, no reason for a marathon runner to dope.
casual obsever wrote:
Coevett wrote:
Wonder what Canova will have to say about this one?
Well, he just said this yesterday:
Renato Canova wrote:
Blood doping is more important in SHORT DISTANCES (800 - 1500m) than in long distances.
... for a race of 2 hours the negative effects are superior of the positive effects
So, no reason for a marathon runner to dope.
Naturally, i mean EPO doesnt work on kenyans, i mean on top tier kenyans, i mean on kenyans that renato coaches. Now we know that EPO can only work on 8-1500 runners. So distance runners are mindweak, but does this mean kiprop wasnt mindweak since the God says it WILL work at 8-1500???? So many lies and loops to keep track of. Lolz
Coevett wrote:
Wonder what Canova will have to say about this one?
https://www.letsrun.com/news/2019/05/eunice-kirwa-becomes-second-2016-olympic-marathon-medalist-to-test-positive-for-epo/
What about rekrunner? ?
Coevett wrote:
3hr-marathoner wrote:
Has he written about her before?
I'm not sure, but him and Armstrong have been having a back and forth debate the last few days in another thread, in which Canova has been claiming that EPO actually makes female marathoners run slower.
What's a matter with that Canova saying stupid stuff like that?
Corvette Convertible with a Tire Rack wrote:
Matthew^ wrote:
lol
What is your obsession with this? I'm not annoyed or looking to pick a fight. You post about doping Kenyans all the time. We get it. They dope. Some one will argure with you. Blah blah blah. Why are you so into this? Totally non confrontational question.
Welcome back El Keniano! I can see you are working on your anger issues.
Shalane Flanagan implicating herself??
guhouy wrote:
Why don't you address racist Coevett's daily references to bestiality?
And no, Cuckvett, I am not your stalker.
I am someone really annoyed by the free pass you get here with your constant sexual posts.
Wait, WHAT!!!, bestiality is racist now? WTF.
Ah the irony, using Cuckvett as a play on words for çuck and stalker.
'çuck' - Its literal meaning references a submissive man sexually cuckolded by a woman.
Coevett wrote:
Wonder what Canova will have to say about this one?
https://www.letsrun.com/news/2019/05/eunice-kirwa-becomes-second-2016-olympic-marathon-medalist-to-test-positive-for-epo/
He'll tell you that drug use among E. Africans is a rarity, this is a witch hunt, and the samples must have been tampered with.
The E. Africans have been getting away with murder since '87. It will get worse before it gets better. The people who allowed this to happen have a lot at stake in keeping the charade going, and their reasons extend far beyond the sport.
Coevett wrote:
Wonder what Canova will have to say about this one?
https://www.letsrun.com/news/2019/05/eunice-kirwa-becomes-second-2016-olympic-marathon-medalist-to-test-positive-for-epo/
canova has no clue. zero. nada. he's out of the loop.
he's never taken epo, and his athlete's don't take EPO under his guidance, i recon.
Funny we are talking about the marathon being the dirtiest race for women at Rio 2016. The absolute dirtiest race in history was the women’s 10k there.
This Kenyan and Ethiopian domination on distance running not only has destroyed the sport, it has driven away talented other runners from other countries by setting the bar so high by cheating. It has destroyed interest from the general public. It has made a mockery of Junior championships.
This has happened because it pays for them to cheat because winning one race sets them up for life even if they get busted years later.
Anytime you guys see these ridiculous times these EPO runners put up, just think about the amount of training you think clean guys did back in the 1960s and 1970s. Or even think about dirty guys like the East German in the 1976 marathon. And he would be beaten by 8 or 9 minutes!
Alabama BS wrote:
Funny we are talking about the marathon being the dirtiest race for women at Rio 2016. The absolute dirtiest race in history was the women’s 10k there.
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The Rio 10k was a joke, but I'm going with the Women's 1500 in London for that title:
https://www.runnersworld.com/news/a20861806/update-how-tainted-was-the-womens-1500-in-london/Cranova wrote:
Coevett wrote:
Wonder what Canova will have to say about this one?
https://www.letsrun.com/news/2019/05/eunice-kirwa-becomes-second-2016-olympic-marathon-medalist-to-test-positive-for-epo/He'll tell you that drug use among E. Africans is a rarity, this is a witch hunt, and the samples must have been tampered with.
The E. Africans have been getting away with murder since '87. It will get worse before it gets better. The people who allowed this to happen have a lot at stake in keeping the charade going, and their reasons extend far beyond the sport.
I dare to say that without EPO, the marathon would have never gone under 2:05. Maybe 2:06? Just look at the date:
2:06:50 Belayneh Dinsamo Ethiopia April 17, 1988
It took a whopping 10 years to break that record:
2:06:05 Ronaldo da Costa Brazil September 20, 1998
Then it went downhill after that, the record being lowered at an average of what? every 2.5 years? Not to mention the plethora of runners running 2:04's?
It's just my opinion, but definitely smells like dead fish.
If you’re asleep right now you think doping is ok. Thank goodness I’m awake.
dopers r us wrote:
ncrecuvuer wrote:
1) Mare Dibaba
2) Tirfi Tsegay
3) Volha Mazuronak
4) Shalane Flanagan
5) Des Linden
6) Rose Chelimo
7) Amy Cragg
Wonder if Mare Dibaba or Rose Chelimo is more likely to be popped soon? I would put my money on Chelimo.
Anyway, they haven't stripped either of the top 2, so Flanagan isn't getting a medal. Maybe they should, but they won't.
Busts coming from 2 top athletes from London Marathon.
Bump. wrote:
cheaters going to cheat wrote:
Can we ban Kenya from international competition yet? How many more Kenyan athletes have to get busted before we say enough already?
When is the shoe going to drop on EPOpia? There is a reason Mo went there instead of Kenya.
I think I recall Mo saying he switched to get an even higher altitude lol.
It's certainly all very fishy and he claims he misses his family ,so why go ?
He went to Ethiopia because that's where Aden was.
I got banned wrote:
found the dunce wrote:
Yes I'm sure Athletics Kenya were behind pumping an athlete that defected to run for another country full of EPO.
Ok try this.....imagine that our sprinters were dropping like flies, coleman, lyles, sydney, etc and people down to 8th place....you thank just cause its different camps being protected that its not a problem? Testing got hard on Jamaica, where did all their horses go?
Well, Lamar Odom just said he cheated on his urine test with a prosthetic penis for the 2004 Olympic games. Are you calling for the entire USA to be banned from the Olympics? No. If an athlete gets caught, that athlete should be banned. Stop this punish an entire country nonsense.
Coevett wrote:
Corvette Convertible with a Tire Rack wrote:
What is your obsession with this? I'm not annoyed or looking to pick a fight. You post about doping Kenyans all the time. We get it. They dope. Some one will argure with you. Blah blah blah. Why are you so into this? Totally non confrontational question.
Not annoyed, LOL! Everybody knows here you'll be getting up in the middle of the night later and posting your bestiality fantasies again in a furious rage.
Whoa. Your response seems a bit out of proportion to the question. It's evening here and I'm not angry. Was just curious. I'm about as un east African as you can be and I figure doping is rampant there - I'd dope too if it lifted me and my family out of poverty. But if I did dope I'd still struggle to get a age group podium at a local 5k.
Other posts indicate you are a non competitive masters runner, which makes me all the more curious why you have so much passion for this subject.
You don't have to be mean about a simple question. Geesh.
I am not surprised by a Kenyan-Bahraini caught for doping, or that a Kenyan born women is able to run 2:21. Ingrid Kristiansen ran 2:21 way back in 1985. If only she, and Bahrain, listened to me, they would not have taken the risk of doping.
It's crazy out there wrote:
Coevett wrote:
Wonder what Canova will have to say about this one?
https://www.letsrun.com/news/2019/05/eunice-kirwa-becomes-second-2016-olympic-marathon-medalist-to-test-positive-for-epo/What about rekrunner? ?
Corvette Convertible with a Tire Rack wrote:
Coevett wrote:
Not annoyed, LOL! Everybody knows here you'll be getting up in the middle of the night later and posting your bestiality fantasies again in a furious rage.
Whoa. Your response seems a bit out of proportion to the question. It's evening here and I'm not angry. Was just curious. I'm about as un east African as you can be and I figure doping is rampant there - I'd dope too if it lifted me and my family out of poverty. But if I did dope I'd still struggle to get a age group podium at a local 5k.
Other posts indicate you are a non competitive masters runner, which makes me all the more curious why you have so much passion for this subject.
You don't have to be mean about a simple question. Geesh.
I spend about 15 minutes at most a day on this board talking about Kenyan doping, and I also post on other subjects, as you even just gave examples of. However, I would not be in the slightest bit ashamed of 'having an obsession' with Kenyan doping. I could think of less things worth of having an obsession with, many of which are demonstrated daily here by other posters. To give an example, how about Rekrunner's obsession, which he must spend about 2 or 3 hours a day on, in making the argument that doping does not work? Does Rekrunner have an obsession? Does Coe have an obsession with Kenyan doping? Maybe the Athletics Integrity Unit? How about all the athletics figures like Tim Hutchings I'm reading in my Twitter feed etc? who are talking about this, as they often do about Kenyan doping?
You're a dirty little doping apologist. What a thing to say - 'Kenyans dope, We get it'. You seriously think we shouldn't be talking about the women's Olympic silver medalist in the marathon being busted for EPO?
As to your doping apologist question as to why I, as somebody who loves the sport, am 'obsessed' with Kenyan doping, I refer you to the excellent answer given by Alabama above :
This Kenyan and Ethiopian domination on distance running not only has destroyed the sport, it has driven away talented other runners from other countries by setting the bar so high by cheating. It has destroyed interest from the general public. It has made a mockery of Junior championships.
This has happened because it pays for them to cheat because winning one race sets them up for life even if they get busted years later.
Anytime you guys see these ridiculous times these EPO runners put up, just think about the amount of training you think clean guys did back in the 1960s and 1970s. Or even think about dirty guys like the East German in the 1976 marathon. And he would be beaten by 8 or 9 minutes!
Who knows what the hell you are. I just wish you had the balls to post under a registered handle instead of using multiple names and proxies to pretend there's actually a sea of people here who think that talking about the East African doping problem that is killing our sport and turned the last 30 years of athletics history into a fraudulent circus act, is 'racist' or a weird 'obsession'. Go to hell. Hope if you are getting paid to do this, then the money will be drying up soon and you'll be out of a job.