This is the second thread I've seen in recent years claiming that Richard David Nerurkar wen to Harvard. I don't think that's the case.
Why do you keep claiming it?
Google his name and harvard and nothing comes up except these threads.
This is the second thread I've seen in recent years claiming that Richard David Nerurkar wen to Harvard. I don't think that's the case.
Why do you keep claiming it?
Google his name and harvard and nothing comes up except these threads.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-nerurkar-b31ba524/https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/nerurkar-on-a-new-mission-1276034.htmlhttps://www.si.com/vault/1988/12/05/118999/now-in-seventh-heaven-pat-porter-tied-the-record-for-consecutive-national-titlesrojo wrote:
This is the second thread I've seen in recent years claiming that Richard David Nerurkar wen to Harvard. I don't think that's the case.
Why do you keep claiming it?
Google his name and harvard and nothing comes up except these threads.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Nerurkar
All three sources indicate that he was a graduate student at Harvard; two state that he received a degree there.
rojo wrote:
This is the second thread I've seen in recent years claiming that Richard David Nerurkar wen to Harvard. I don't think that's the case.
Why do you keep claiming it?
I also just confirmed, through the official on-line Harvard Alumni Directory, that Richard D. Nerurkar received a MPA (Master in Public Administration) from Harvard's Kennedy School in 1989.
I guess the OP needs to specify if he means undergrad or grad student.
To me, I think of undergrad when you ask about Ivy athletes because graduate students are not allowed to compete on Ivy teams (conference rule).
Is Michael Cassidy's PR 2:18.52?
Avocado's Number wrote:
rojo wrote:
This is the second thread I've seen in recent years claiming that Richard David Nerurkar wen to Harvard. I don't think that's the case.
Why do you keep claiming it?
I also just confirmed, through the official on-line Harvard Alumni Directory, that Richard D. Nerurkar received a MPA (Master in Public Administration) from Harvard's Kennedy School in 1989.
Never competed for Harvard = never an Ivy League runner. You could give a pass to someone who went to Harvard undergrad if you want.
dfdafsadasdasd wrote:
I'd say only those who were undergrads/competed for an Ivy XC/Track team should be allowed.
Agree. The Ivy League is undergraduate only. I did my graduate work at Penn, but I do not consider myself to be an Ivy league graduate.
Richard Nerurkar was a graduate student, so should not be on the list.
Good point since the Ivy League is an athletic conference and he was never eligible to compete in that conference. Still interesting though.
I'm sure there are, more but we have 10 at 2:13 or better:
1. Bob Kempainen-2:08:47
2. Frank Shorter- 2:10:30
3. Dan Schlesinger 2:11:37
4. Paul Gompers 2:11:38
5. Pete Pfitzinger 2:11:43
6. Jon Anderson 2:12:03
7. Joe Stilin 2:13:20
8. Ed Sheehan 2:13:46
9. David Olds 2:13:48
10. Joe Lemay 2:13:55
12. Max King 2:14:36
Honorable mentions:
Richard Nerurkar 2:08:36
just trying to name 10 wrote:
1. Bob Kempainen-2:08:47
2. Frank Shorter- 2:10:30
3. Dan Schlesinger 2:11:37
4. Paul Gompers 2:11:38
5. Pete Pfitzinger 2:11:43
6. Jon Anderson 2:12:03
7. Joe Stilin 2:13:20
8. Ed Sheehan 2:13:46
9. David Olds 2:13:48
10. Joe Lemay 2:13:55
12. Max King 2:14:36
Honorable mentions:
Richard Nerurkar 2:08:36
That's a fair way to put it empirically speaking.
Subjectively, I'd go with:
1. Frank Shorter- 2:10:30
2. Pete Pfitzinger 2:11:43
2. Jon Anderson 2:12:03
2. Bob Kempainen-2:08:47
5. Dan Schlesinger 2:11:37
5. Paul Gompers 2:11:38
7. Joe Stilin 2:13:20
8. Ed Sheehan 2:13:46
9. David Olds 2:13:48
10. Joe Lemay 2:13:55
12. Max King 2:14:36
[quote]just trying to name 10 wrote:
Good point since the Ivy League is an athletic conference and he was never eligible to compete in that conference. Still interesting though.
I'm sure there are, more but we have 10 at 2:13 or better:
1. Bob Kempainen (Dartmouth)-2:08:47
2. Frank Shorter (Yale) - 2:10:30
3. Dan Schlesinger 2:11:37
4. Paul Gompers (Harvard) 2:11:38
5. Pete Pfitzinger (Cornell) 2:11:43
6. Jon Anderson (Cornell) 2:12:03
7. Joe Stilin (Princeton) 2:13:20
8. Ed Sheehan (Harvard) 2:13:46
9. David Olds (Princeton) 2:13:48
10. Joe Lemay (Princeton) 2:13:55
11 Max King (Cornell) 2:14:36
12. Tom Ratcliffe (Brown) 2:14:44
PS. I've added in schools.
If we score it, top 3 across the line. Here are the team scores.
Cornell - 22
Princeton - 26
Rest of league DNF
About the only other runner I can think of who could possibly crack that lineup is Ric Rojas (Hahvahd) , but I'm not so sure he ever ran a marathon.
Schlesinger went to Yale, Rojo.
I found another Cornell guy. Craig Holm at 2:14:43.
Cornell is crushing it. If we score 5, it looks like they will win as well. I added in Schlesinger's school - Yale. This is starting to remind me of the 1990 Heps xc meet when Yale put 3 in the top 8 but couldn't find a 5th to win.
1. Bob Kempainen (Dartmouth)-2:08:47
2. Frank Shorter (Yale) - 2:10:30
3. Dan Schlesinger (Yale) 2:11:37
4. Paul Gompers (Harvard) 2:11:38
5. Pete Pfitzinger (Cornell) 2:11:43
6. Jon Anderson (Cornell) 2:12:03
7. Joe Stilin (Princeton) 2:13:20
8. Ed Sheehan (Harvard) 2:13:46
9. David Olds (Princeton) 2:13:48
10. Joe Lemay (Princeton) 2:13:55
11 Max King (Cornell) 2:14:36
12. Criag Holm (Cornell) 2:14:43
13. Tom Ratcliffe (Brown) 2:14:44
2:20:35 San Diego 1979
malmo wrote:
About the only other runner I can think of who could possibly crack that lineup is Ric Rojas (Hahvahd) , but I'm not so sure he ever ran a marathon.
malmo wrote:
About the only other runner I can think of who could possibly crack that lineup is Ric Rojas (Hahvahd) , but I'm not so sure he ever ran a marathon.
I immediately thought of Rojas but then thought that I've never seen a marathon time for him. It's unlikely both of us would have missed one.
How did I not remember Holm or Ratcliffe? I'm in the doghouse now.
Maybe the top 3 by school would be helpful?
Rojo, did Phil Ritson ever run a marathon? How about Phil Collins? Both around the time of Jon Anderson.
malmo wrote:
Avocado's Number wrote:
I also just confirmed, through the official on-line Harvard Alumni Directory, that Richard D. Nerurkar received a MPA (Master in Public Administration) from Harvard's Kennedy School in 1989.
Never competed for Harvard = never an Ivy League runner. You could give a pass to someone who went to Harvard undergrad if you want.
It doesn't really matter to me; I was the one who initially raised the issue about whether "the top ten fastest marathoners who were Ivy League students" (the OP's phrasing) should be or was intended to include someone like Richard Nerurkar, who had been named by an earlier poster. I tend to think of the Ivy League as a sports league, less so a collection of eight undergraduate colleges, and much less so a collection of eight universities. In fact, the term "Ivy League student" sounds a little off to me -- kind of like "Little League student" or "National Football League student" -- especially if the student isn't even competing in Ivy League intercollegiate athletics. But popular and well-established usage does support broader interpretations.
Of all the names mentioned thus far, I believe that Nerurkar is the only one who was not an undergraduate at an Ivy League school.
malmo wrote:
About the only other runner I can think of who could possibly crack that lineup is Ric Rojas (Hahvahd) , but I'm not so sure he ever ran a marathon.
I had thought that Maksim Korolev (Harvard) was poised to do something impressive in the marathon, but I haven't seen any marathon results for him, and I'm not sure if he's even running seriously anymore.