Bike riding coach on track - who's more to blame

Mountain ultra runner...... wrote:

Flagstaff guy wrote:

). No idea why these people would be walking on the track instead of at the park.

I'm still trying to figure out why any self respecting runner would be running around a track instead of a park or up and down a mountain.

Along with the user name this was a great troll post. If deserved more attention from the track runner( real runner) vs ultra crowd.

6/10

Walking on running tracks has to be an American thing. I have never seen that in my country.

Bad Wigins wrote:

Walkers should never be in any lane other than 8, and preferably outside lane 8. That has been the convention since forever. They should especially never walk side by side.

If you're doing reps of more than one lap, you shouldn't be on the track any more than the walkers should, you should be out on the roads or paths.

Sprinters are the ones usually walking on the track.

I've never seen a sprinter run more than 1 lap of the track without walking.

Therefore, sprinters should never be on a track.

Bad Wigins wrote:

Doing long repeats in trainers is like doing laps in scuba gear at a pool.

No - it's actually nothing like that.

notafatty wrote:

Who the hell needs a pacer when doing track work? You can get your splits ever 50 meters if you want.

You can get your time every 100M in a real 10K race also. You can look at your watch every 10M if you want.

Walkers in L1 (and 2 at the same time here) suck..It sure doesn't make the biker right though. I've run thousands of distance miles on tracks. DO NOT walk in lane one. Period.

I was told that the Physical education teacher was a substitute teacher, which explains why this happened. If there are people running in lane one, then the students should be walking in the outer lanes. Even if the bike was not on the track, the runners would have still run into the students.

Sooner Boomer wrote:

I was told that the Physical education teacher was a substitute teacher, which explains why this happened.

No, the reason it happened was because an idiot was riding a bike on a track. Said bike rider was not allowed to be on track since it was during school hours. The incident happened 100% because idiot rider disregarded multiple rules: no riding on track, no use during school hours. On top of that, the idiot bike rider should have the courtesy to NOT PLOW INTO THE PEOPLE ON THE TRACK. What an absolute moran.

If I'm running a workout and there are people on the track who are not moving, I MOVE AROUND THEM. That is what humans do for other humans. This attitude that the track belongs to the fastest runner is idiotic. And I say this as a person who usually is the fastest person on the track.

The substitute teach has nothing to do with this happening.

If I'm running a workout and there are people on the track who are not moving, I MOVE AROUND THEM. That is what humans do for other humans. This attitude that the track belongs to the fastest runner is idiotic. And I say this as a person who usually is the fastest person on the track.

This! My group of runners are usually always the fastest runners on the track. Before we start our workouts we will ALWAYS let the walkers/joggers know we are doing a workout and if they are in lane one we ask them to either just remain where they are when we pass them or if they could move out to the outer lanes before we get started that would be great. We let them know know we are coming and we have ZERO problem going around them. We only get frustrated when dumbasses are on the track with bikes, I've kicked them off as I have been given permission by the high school AD to do so, and I also tell dumb ass cross fitters not to run the wrong way on the track....and yes they have tried to do it in lane one. Our tracks in San Antonio are pretty much open to the public, but not during school hours.

Obvious walker's fault. The coach on the bike is at the same speed as the runner, so we should not see this as cyclist vs pedestrian but as athlete vs pedestrian. No one should walk/jog on lane 1. Athletes doing +400m reps should have the way on lane 1

The moronic coach and trailing runners are clearly at fault here. The bike is so not right, especially if there was a PE class. The coach and athletes needed to communicate, as noted by an earlier person. If you are doing workouts, talk to others who are sharing the track. The only times I've had an issue on an indoor track was when a visiting college team comes to the track and starts running the opposite direction, and told NO ONE. I nearly obliterated a girl coming around the corner who wasn't looking or communicating. It's 400 meters - he clearly could have seen this coming and reacted with some brain activity. Basic common sense - talk to people ahead of time, especially if there might be traffic jams. Coach thinks he's too special.

everyone's guilty. "GET DOWN AND GIVE ME 25 GOOD ONES RIGHT NOW. EVERYONE!"

Here's the dummy again wrote:

Bad Wigins wrote:

If you're doing reps of more than one lap, you shouldn't be on the track any more than the walkers should, you should be out on the roads or paths.

Sprinters are the ones usually walking on the track.

I've never seen a sprinter run more than 1 lap of the track without walking.

Therefore, sprinters should never be on a track.

See the part about tracks not being for running more than 1 lap in training.

If sprinters are walking outside lane 8, they have very bad manners and are a hazard to the other sprinters, and probably get yelled at quite a bit. A sprinter moving faster than 20mph can get injured pulling up to avoid a collision. 20mph is fast enough for a 160lb cyclist to wreck badly, and a 180lb sprinter has the same momentum.

So much blame to go around!

1. No bikes on the track. It’s bad for the track and not safe. Especially little kids on bikes, but coaches also.

2. If you need a bike to pace you, just give up running because you’re pathetic. Haven’t these people heard of a watch?

3. No walking in lane 1. If you want to walk on the track and someone is doing a workout walk in lane 8.

Not only were students walking in lane one, but lanes two and three...

Has terrorism been ruled out? One can't be too careful these days.....

A bike should not be on a track period.

If the reason for this is not obvious, you don't belong on a track either.

Bike is 100% at fault. If that clown isn't there, none of this happens. Pure jackassery.

Walkers in lane 1 are annoying, but it's no more acceptable to run than over than it's OK far cars to run over cyclists who are taking up more road than they should.

The bike is irrelevant because he didn't crash into them or cause the crash in any way. 100% walkers' fault and let that be a lesson to every other track walker in the world!

waaaaaah I'll suuuuuue you wrote:

I also think it is stupid that you jump to "I would sue him" and talking about "paying damages"? (Do you even know if there are damages?) Americans are so funny that way.

There does not need to be real damages in America.