Maybe I don’t understand... wrote:
Your son has been coached by a guy accused of pedophilia and the GREATEST concern is that he not quit XC and track?
Hebephilia, not pedophilia. Fifteen-year-olds aren't typically prepubescent.
Maybe I don’t understand... wrote:
Your son has been coached by a guy accused of pedophilia and the GREATEST concern is that he not quit XC and track?
Hebephilia, not pedophilia. Fifteen-year-olds aren't typically prepubescent.
Maybe I don’t understand... wrote:
Your son has been coached by a guy accused of pedophilia and the GREATEST concern is that he not quit XC and track? No concern that maybe - just maybe - your son was also a victim and you don’t know it? Recognizing that I am not in your shoes, I feel sure that would be MY first concern if I were...
That was my thought as well. It's appalling that a mother would think any differently.
After I read my post, I caught how it would read. I can sometimes get wordy and was attempting to keep it short. My concern about my son quitting has nothing to do with a "stage mom" type of thing. The reason is much sadder.
Over the past 5 yrs, our nuclear family has experienced tradegy after tradegy. If were to go into detail, you would either cry or wish I were lying. The chaos and pain of the past 5 yrs deeply impacted both of my children. I was doing all I could to get us through.
Prior to joining xcountry and track, my son was depressed and kinda lost. All that changed when he became part of the team. My son is probably one of the worst on the team, and he will proudly admit it. Therefore, its been pretty obvious he isn't on the team for the thrill of victory.
The group of kids on the team are all amazing!!! Its really hard to describe how much of a "family" they are. As much as it pains me to say...Steve was a huge part of this. For the past 3 yrs, I seen my son so dedicated and love the "team". Now this is threatened. Besides, losing Steve, some of the team mates are talking about moving (long story, but it is bc Steve's departure. ) I don't want my son to lose what has brought him so much happiness, sense of belonging etc.
There is much more I could say but gotta get to work.
This will be the last time I will respond to attacks .
I find it appalling that someone would jump to conclusions without checking for clarity. In addition, I find it kinda of scary stupid that you think you can seriously judge what kind of parent I am based on a parapgragh on the internet. Truth is..you can't. Lastly, if you haven't learned it yet, life will humble you. From the bottom of my heart, I hope you never have to go through as situation such as this...it really sucks. We entire family has been deeply hurt by this. What parent wants to see their child, crushed? What parent wants to see their daughter desperately try to comfort her little brother? Saturday, I was awoken to the sobbing of tears, at 2:30 am..not from my son but my daughter. The only words she was able to say through her tears is "my heart hurts for my brother".
For some, this may be just another side-show to the circus of life... But my family and some other families who have kids on the team...it hurts...
Sad Mom,
I cannot imagine the confusion and pain right now for your family. It is my opinion that you and your child(ren) should seek professional counseling in this matter. This shouldn't serve as an excuse, but these boards are perhaps the worst place for you to be right now.
I wish you the best in recovery and healing.
ZIPP
socal cush wrote:
Sad Mom wrote:
For those of who knew Steve, I appreciate and value your insight. Steve has coached my son for the past 3 years, that was until he was arrested. The news has devastated my son. ? My son really looked up to Steve, as did many of the other kids. Friday, when the news broke: many students teared up. We are still processing and trying to make sense of the situation. My greatest concern right now is that my son does not quit cross country and track. Again, thanks for any insight.
i knew steve for a short time, but remain best friends with his younger brother, my teammate/roommate at ucla. steve stayed with us while he was finishing his degree. the post above so far is the only one i'll respond to, not that i have the insight you may be looking for.
for what it's worth: i have a pretty negative opinion of steve in general that goes back only to the short time he stayed with us; despite that, this shocked me, but i can only speak for myself. don't trust what random anonymous people on these boards say (including me, but my profile is actually pretty public)--if your son likes running, he should continue. the coach should not define his enthusiasm for the sport, no matter how much the coach may influence it.
as for steve, i suspect the truth--good or bad--will win out. they've got hundreds of parents to interview, so my guess is if there is a pattern of criminal behavior, it'll be found out. with computers and cell phones, and the fact that people just aren't that smart or private with technology, if there are suspicious text messages/emails/snapchats/instagrams, they'll find them. and if they don't find them, well, here my negative opinion (mainly rooted in narcissism and selfishness) of steve may help: he ain't no criminal mastermind. so if they don't find a suspicious pattern, and if they don't find any suspicious evidence, then he's likely innocent of everything but poor judgment in driving a homeless minor alone ANYWHERE, though his reputation will probably never recover...
that's my story and i'm sticking to it,
cush
Great post Cush. I think you are right, if there was a pattern of behavior, it will come out. It is possible that Steve was being sympathetic, picked up the kid, and the kid fabricated a story. It will come down to corroborating evidence.
Sad Mom wrote:
The group of kids on the team are all amazing!!! Its really hard to describe how much of a "family" they are. As much as it pains me to say...Steve was a huge part of this.
You're not thinking clearly at this point.
Confusion .. wrote:
Sad Mom wrote:
The group of kids on the team are all amazing!!! Its really hard to describe how much of a "family" they are. As much as it pains me to say...Steve was a huge part of this.
You're not thinking clearly at this point.
Shut up
Yes, good point wrote:
myster900 wrote:
homosexual males molest children at far higher rates than the general population
33% of children molested are male while only 1% of the population is gay.
I used to be tolerant of gays but that was a long time ago.
No more.
Gays are perverts, dangerous to children, and should not be acceptable in modern society.
Go live in a hole you piece of garbage. There is quite a difference between being gay and being a molester. I don’t accept you in modern society.
Grow Up wrote:
Yes, good point wrote:
I used to be tolerant of gays but that was a long time ago.
No more.
Gays are perverts, dangerous to children, and should not be acceptable in modern society.
Go live in a hole you piece of garbage. There is quite a difference between being gay and being a molester. I don’t accept you in modern society.
Can't we all just get along.
Grow Up wrote:
Go live in a hole you piece of garbage. There is quite a difference between being gay and being a molester. I don’t accept you in modern society.
Someone is butt hurt.
Maybe I don’t understand... wrote:
Sad Mom wrote:For those of who knew Steve, I appreciate and value your insight. Steve has coached my son for the past 3 years, that was until he was arrested. The news has devastated my son. ? My son really looked up to Steve, as did many of the other kids. Friday, when the news broke: many students teared up. We are still processing and trying to make sense of the situation. My greatest concern right now is that my son does not quit cross country and track. Again, thanks for any insight.
Your son has been coached by a guy accused of pedophilia and the GREATEST concern is that he not quit XC and track? No concern that maybe - just maybe - your son was also a victim and you don’t know it? Recognizing that I am not in your shoes, I feel sure that would be MY first concern if I were...
MORON PROJECTION ALERT!!!
Grow Up wrote:
There is quite a difference between being gay and being a molester.
The former has been caught and the latter has not.
SoCal Cush or Pylon, I not sure of the fomat, but is there to "backchat" in a forum that is not public? If so, would one of you be willing? Honestly, trying to process the situation. I will admit, I was taken aback by some of the responses I got. I really hate the whole "online" stuff and often in trouble by my aunts for my lack of Facebook partipation. From the bottom of my heart, I really am trying to do the best for my son and I know myself well enough to know I have to process information. I understand if declined. Either way, the way both of you manage to not lose the humanity in such a painful is acknowledge and appreciated.
Letsrun.com doesn't have private messaging.
Nor does it have subscription of threads, the ability to save friends (can't contact them anyway), nor a multitude of common features that modern (for the last couple of decades) forums have. Perhaps one of them will post their email address, and you could communicate through email, but not here.
What you just wrote is false.
Lies, damn lies, statistics, then your statistics.
and that difference is... wrote:
Grow Up wrote:
There is quite a difference between being gay and being a molester.
The former has been caught and the latter has not.
Ummmm I think you have "latter" and "former" mixed up.
Indeed `' wrote:
Maybe I don’t understand... wrote:
Your son has been coached by a guy accused of pedophilia and the GREATEST concern is that he not quit XC and track? No concern that maybe - just maybe - your son was also a victim and you don’t know it? Recognizing that I am not in your shoes, I feel sure that would be MY first concern if I were...
That was my thought as well. It's appalling that a mother would think any differently.
Some parents can ask their children (AND SOME CHILDREN CAN ANSWER) if they were molested and when the child says, "No" they are being honest and the parent can believe them. Did it not occur to you that she had already done this?
Thank you and a gigantic YES to all your assertions. As you noticed, I can really get long winded...so again thank you.