McHenry runs one of the Therapeutic Associates offices here in Portland. The office is in a completely different part of town, is very busy with "regular" people, and is very much independent of NOP. He's not an "independent contractor" in name only.
casual obsever wrote:
Barrel of Laughs wrote:
Agreed...that 3:50 is absurd!
+1
agreed, get real
she lost me on this....... wrote:
Now I have no respect for her at all... and I don't care how fast she runs in the future. She is apparently not honoring commitments due to public opinion based on a lot of uninformed hearsay. I have FAR more respect for Hasay and Rupp sticking with team that has supported them through thick and thin.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't right here.
Muir colluding with NOP is right up there with Trump colluding with the Russians. I think Mueller should take a look at this.
she lost me on this....... wrote:
Now I have no respect for her at all... and I don't care how fast she runs in the future. She is apparently not honoring commitments due to public opinion based on a lot of uninformed hearsay. I have FAR more respect for Hasay and Rupp sticking with team that has supported them through thick and thin.
Muir is hypocrite.
Just a quid gov wrote:
Does McHenry have anything with the doping going on at NOP? No.
Does he work with doped athletes? Yes.
I know a coach of a pretty well-known cyclist (now retired) who I think was genuinely shocked to learn that his client was doping. The cyclist was not doping when they started, but like so many other cyclists (and ok athletes) he succumbed.
It is conceivable that a S&C might not know--maybe suspect though.
That's an astute observation. The public really isn't that smart. Laura Muir was going to work with Dave McHenry, not Salazar or NOP. Laura Muir has bowed to public pressure from a public that isn't that smart.
rojo wrote:
I'm sorry . It is a big deal from a PR stunt. It's just INCREDIBLY stupid. Totally tone deaf.
You don't run your mouth about about others being dopers and then have any association whatsoever with Salazar's group. There are plenty of strength coaches in the world.
The public isn't smart enough to understand why Muir believes one of coaches under investigation with big time ties to Nike and Farah is clean (Salazar) but another is dirty (Aden).
Look at some of the comments below the article. Her endorseability just took a hit.
You may know that working with the strength coach isn't nearly the same thing but average joe public doesn't.
rekrunner wrote:
That's an astute observation. The public really isn't that smart.
Laura Muir was going to work with Dave McHenry, not Salazar or NOP.
Laura Muir has bowed to public pressure from a public that isn't that smart.
rojo wrote:
I'm sorry . It is a big deal from a PR stunt. It's just INCREDIBLY stupid. Totally tone deaf.
You don't run your mouth about about others being dopers and then have any association whatsoever with Salazar's group. There are plenty of strength coaches in the world.
The public isn't smart enough to understand why Muir believes one of coaches under investigation with big time ties to Nike and Farah is clean (Salazar) but another is dirty (Aden).
Look at some of the comments below the article. Her endorseability just took a hit.
You may know that working with the strength coach isn't nearly the same thing but average joe public doesn't.
Not very astute of Muir either. I perceive the main issue here is not the association itself. rather the hypocrisy in publicly denouncing her primary competitor for her "associations" and then aligning herself (however tenuously) with another controversial coaching/training stable.
British athletics and their pundits have long garnered a reputation for jingoistic hypocrisy with doping allegations. Muir is simply wearing the fallout from this.
rekrunner wrote:
That's an astute observation. The public really isn't that smart.
Laura Muir was going to work with Dave McHenry, not Salazar or NOP.
Laura Muir has bowed to public pressure from a public that isn't that smart.
rojo wrote:
I'm sorry . It is a big deal from a PR stunt. It's just INCREDIBLY stupid. Totally tone deaf.
You don't run your mouth about about others being dopers and then have any association whatsoever with Salazar's group. There are plenty of strength coaches in the world.
The public isn't smart enough to understand why Muir believes one of coaches under investigation with big time ties to Nike and Farah is clean (Salazar) but another is dirty (Aden).
Look at some of the comments below the article. Her endorseability just took a hit.
You may know that working with the strength coach isn't nearly the same thing but average joe public doesn't.
This McHenry chap, is he the guy that runs the PACE gym in Portland?
rekrunner wrote:
Laura Muir has bowed to public pressure from a public that isn't that smart.
What's the evidence for that (the bowing part)? Laura says otherwise... historically you pretend to believe the athlete's word.
Please troll more consistently.
She never worked with him, only had an introduction.
The British Press decides who she can work with or not?
Sad day when they can control an athletes life!
Not much of backbone in this woman!
I agree. Add to this how big a deal the Rojo brothers make of this and it's so bad for the sport.
https://sharedmedia.grahamdigital.com/photo/2017/01/18/21108_high_res_8825484_ver1.0_1280_720.jpgIagreetoo wrote:
I agree. Add to this how big a deal the Rojo brothers make of this and it's so bad for the sport.
Oh well.
Les wrote:
Dibaba in the off season trained in remote parts of Ethiopia where it was difficult for testers to reach. She could basically dope as much as she wanted and surprise, surprise, beat the best runners in the world by 5 seconds when she set her WR. Athletes in the UK and USA are not so fortunate as Dibaba so they can only do micro doses and gray area drugs so 7 second PRs like Dibaba set when she ran her WR are probably not in the cards, but 2-3 second improvement I can see happening.
One voice of reality in a cacophony of craziness.
Les is more in this case.
Well, I'm not defending her previous comments, but she was going to align herself with Dave McHenry.
Hill Run wrote:
Not very astute of Muir either. I perceive the main issue here is not the association itself. rather the hypocrisy in publicly denouncing her primary competitor for her "associations" and then aligning herself (however tenuously) with another controversial coaching/training stable.
British athletics and their pundits have long garnered a reputation for jingoistic hypocrisy with doping allegations. Muir is simply wearing the fallout from this.
Her tweet. I believe Laura Muir. Is "caved-in" a better term?
casual obsever wrote:
rekrunner wrote:
Laura Muir has bowed to public pressure from a public that isn't that smart.
What's the evidence for that (the bowing part)? Laura says otherwise... historically you pretend to believe the athlete's word.
Please troll more consistently.
https://media.giphy.com/media/vhkDolh4DV4RO/giphy.gifrekrunner wrote:
Her tweet. I believe Laura Muir. Is "caved-in" a better term?
casual obsever wrote:
What's the evidence for that (the bowing part)? Laura says otherwise... historically you pretend to believe the athlete's word.
Please troll more consistently.
I am back from a short vacation...feeling refreshed.
Laura Muir's stupid coach Andy Young was the stupid person who had the really stupid idea to spend way too much money on some stupid overpriced exercise videos with rubber bands by David McHenry.
David McHenry has his own "rubber band exercise video" business... which is separate from the NOP.
I called Ms. Muir as soon as I saw the "fake news" in the "Fake British Tabloid Press."
For example:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-5060239/Jemima-Sumgong-handed-four-year-doping-ban.htmlhttp://i4.irishmirror.ie/incoming/article6915888.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200/PaulaMain.jpgI told Ms. Muir that even though she is located in Scotland...that is still way too close to Coach Alberto and the NOP in Oregon...even with just a Rubber Band Exercise Video By David McHenry-Coach Alberto Possible Suspicious Association™.
Ms. Muir quickly reversed the REALLY STUPID IDEA...by her Coach Andy Young.
In conclusion:
1) Ms. Laura Muir (The Flying 'Wee Sparra' Scot) is the squeaky clean 1500m WR Holder for women...and is the most exciting female runner on this planet at the present time.
It's not a big surprise.
It turns out that Coach Alberto "Albuterol-Androgel-Cytomel-Levothyroxine-Intravenous-L-carnitine-Salbutamol" Salazar...is also radioactive.
Coach Alberto has a long half-life.
I heard a rumor that there is a high prevalence of MALARIA in Kenya...and at the NOP in Oregon.
For example:
ArmChair.Expert.For.Forever.Karma.com wrote:
https://media.giphy.com/media/vhkDolh4DV4RO/giphy.gifrekrunner wrote:
Her tweet. I believe Laura Muir. Is "caved-in" a better term?
I am back from a short vacation...feeling refreshed.
Laura Muir's stupid coach Andy Young was the stupid person who had the really stupid idea to spend way too much money on some stupid overpriced exercise videos with rubber bands by David McHenry.
David McHenry has his own "rubber band exercise video" business... which is separate from the NOP.
I called Ms. Muir as soon as I saw the "fake news" in the "Fake British Tabloid Press."
For example:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-5060239/Jemima-Sumgong-handed-four-year-doping-ban.htmlhttp://i4.irishmirror.ie/incoming/article6915888.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200/PaulaMain.jpgI told Ms. Muir that even though she is located in Scotland...that is still way too close to Coach Alberto and the NOP in Oregon...even with just a Rubber Band Exercise Video By David McHenry-Coach Alberto Possible Suspicious Association™.
Ms. Muir quickly reversed the REALLY STUPID IDEA...by her Coach Andy Young.
In conclusion:
1) Ms. Laura Muir (The Flying 'Wee Sparra' Scot) is the squeaky clean 1500m WR Holder for women...and is the most exciting female runner on this planet at the present time.
It's not a big surprise.
Update NOP and Brits:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1136327.Precor_Presents_Alberto_Salazar_Treadmill_Training_And_Workout_Guidehttps://eatrunswag.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/salazar.jpghttps://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/sep/10/paula-radcliffe-release-blood-test-bordering-abusehttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-5033617/Mo-Farah-ditches-controversial-coach-Alberto-Salazar.htmlOh boy.
It's not a big surprise.
ArmChair.Expert.For.Forever.Karma.com wrote:
Iam back from a short vacation...feeling refreshed.
Laura Muir's stupid coach Andy Young was the stupid person who had the really stupid idea to spend way too much money on some stupid overpriced exercise videos with rubber bands by David McHenry.
David McHenry has his own "rubber band exercise video" business... which is separate from the NOP.
I called Ms. Muir as soon as I saw the "fake news" in the "Fake British Tabloid Press."
Feel free to elaborate some more.
