How does running more mileage translates into running faster?

COACH J.S å ä ö wrote:

I must really "kill" that hypothesis that you get more aerobic fit the more mileage you run.There is absolutely NO evidence that so would be! There is probably a limit for every individual how much mileage is needed to reach the aerobic highest capacity. Also to reach optimal aerobic capacity is not only a question of running high distance mileage. Even the paces that we use to call anaerob or around the threshold will contribute to the aerobic power. Yuki Kawauchi is a great example that shows you can reach your optimal aerobic capacity on just singles in training and not very high weekly mileage.

we must consider different amateur and elite. Elite have probably already made their "aerobic house".

4'/km or 5'/km amateur are not yet optimized.

Zede,

While your answer is sound, the best way to respond to Coach JS is to not respond to Coach JS. He is a clown.

David S. Pumpkins wrote:

Zede,

While your answer is sound, the best way to respond to Coach JS is to not respond to Coach JS. He is a clown.

Haha! A very good "clown" then, with great coaching results so far.

Zede wrote:

COACH J.S å ä ö wrote:

I must really "kill" that hypothesis that you get more aerobic fit the more mileage you run.There is absolutely NO evidence that so would be! There is probably a limit for every individual how much mileage is needed to reach the aerobic highest capacity. Also to reach optimal aerobic capacity is not only a question of running high distance mileage. Even the paces that we use to call anaerob or around the threshold will contribute to the aerobic power. Yuki Kawauchi is a great example that shows you can reach your optimal aerobic capacity on just singles in training and not very high weekly mileage.

we must consider different amateur and elite. Elite have probably already made their "aerobic house".

4'/km or 5'/km amateur are not yet optimized.

Wrong. If your in good basic health and fitness, your cardiovascular funtion and thus aerobic capacity is already maximised.

As for doubling mitochondrial density?? If that was true we could run the same pace with half the amount of muscle fibers. Obvious nonsense.

not fred wrote:

Zede wrote:

we must consider different amateur and elite. Elite have probably already made their "aerobic house".

4'/km or 5'/km amateur are not yet optimized.

Wrong. If your in good basic health and fitness, your cardiovascular funtion and thus aerobic capacity is already maximised.

As for doubling mitochondrial density?? If that was true we could run the same pace with half the amount of muscle fibers. Obvious nonsense.

Hi Jon, still at it with this nonsense?

Jon Morange wrote:

ivorytowerology wrote:

Hi Weldon. I don't care who takes what, including you. Use an inhaler if you thing it's performance enhancing. Post a video of you dancing like a fool when drunk. I dare ya.

Hi Jon. Too ashamed to post under your name now, eh?

I can spell so clearly I'm not Weldon. Maybe you need some performance enhancing eye drops?

And when did you stop posting under your own name? And if you're not wejo or rojo, stop acting like this is your website.

registration doesn't work here wrote:

And when did you stop posting under your own name? And if you're not wejo or rojo, stop acting like this is your website.

I never post under my own name. Not sure what you're on about as far as acting like this is my website.

not fred wrote:

Wrong. If your in good basic health and fitness, your cardiovascular funtion and thus aerobic capacity is already maximised.

As for doubling mitochondrial density?? If that was true we could run the same pace with half the amount of muscle fibers. Obvious nonsense.

On a related note, you only need half a brain to post on LR.

not fred wrote:

Zede wrote:

we must consider different amateur and elite. Elite have probably already made their "aerobic house".

4'/km or 5'/km amateur are not yet optimized.

Wrong. If your in good basic health and fitness, your cardiovascular funtion and thus aerobic capacity is already maximised.

As for doubling mitochondrial density?? If that was true we could run the same pace with half the amount of muscle fibers. Obvious nonsense.

P=W/t

so TIME, not distance.

Yes Power = Work/Time

So if you had (as the fantasits tell you) double the mitochondria, you could magically do twice as much work in the same time, or the same amount with half the number of muscle contractions.

Obvious nonsense, but not to a few letsrun regulars who don't like being told that they need to re think their ideas. They are sticking with the fantasy that you can double your 'aerobic engine'. I hope there are some intelligent people reading these threads who want to learn some real physiology, but the same old idiots keep arguing the same old nonsense. I've been here a long time and I know they hate being told anything.

not fred wrote:

Yes Power = Work/Time

So if you had (as the fantasits tell you) double the mitochondria, you could magically do twice as much work in the same time, or the same amount with half the number of muscle contractions.

Obvious nonsense, but not to a few letsrun regulars who don't like being told that they need to re think their ideas. They are sticking with the fantasy that you can double your 'aerobic engine'. I hope there are some intelligent people reading these threads who want to learn some real physiology, but the same old idiots keep arguing the same old nonsense. I've been here a long time and I know they hate being told anything.

v = (F · VO2max )/ C

Bekele does nearly twice as much work in the same time vs a hobby jogger :-)

Obviously it's not only a question of mitochondria, but in average, a champion has more Vo2 max, use more fraction of it, has more efficiency (so lower C) than a hobby jogger.

Obviously maybe Kipchoge and a pro-tour cyclist have the same Vo2max, but the cyclist runs a marathon in 2h45'..... but that trained cyclist runs faster than many amateur runners.

All factors are important.

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David S. Pumpkins wrote:

Zede,

While your answer is sound, the best way to respond to Coach JS is to not respond to Coach JS. He is a clown.

Three and a half years later and this is still true. Coach JS is a clown.

COACH J.S å ä ö wrote:

David S. Pumpkins wrote:

Zede,

While your answer is sound, the best way to respond to Coach JS is to not respond to Coach JS. He is a clown.

Haha! A very good "clown" then, with great coaching results so far.

Fortunately on the dedicated thread, 99% of your claims have now been proven to be lies.

Clown!

Along with the aerobic endurance generally improving, your running economy via your neuromuscular fitness and you form has no choice but to get more efficient with that much running. Your body naturally adapts to handling the workload.

This is the best answer in my opinion.

Bigger aerobic foundation

The easy running does all the good adaptations

Enzymes

Mitochondria increase

Increase capillary beds

String lung function

Endurance

The fast running doesn’t do this

It builds other energy systems

Very few coaches and runners knows the secret of how to reach the runners optimum capacity on just ENOUGH mileage. Some tested it out and found the secret and became great runners.

Why try to see how much mileage your body can stand before breakdown, when instead to try out what`s ENOUGH when it comes to mileage is a much smarter way ?

SUPERIOR COACH JS wrote:

Very few coaches and runners knows the secret of how to reach the runners optimum capacity on just ENOUGH mileage. Some tested it out and found the secret and became great runners.

Why try to see how much mileage your body can stand before breakdown, when instead to try out what`s ENOUGH when it comes to mileage is a much smarter way ?

You know the secret to making athletes run slower. Well done.

Actually, this isn’t too far off from the truth, having seen it firsthand for seveeal years