Anton Krupicka talks about being perma-injured

Anton is a great example how overtraining can kill the best talent.

I hope some will learn because Anton never did.

What are some things,

specifically, that you don’t agree on?

One of you is a Bekele fan and the other isn't? I hope you agree with my side on Bekele Sage

John Utah wrote:

You don’t know that at all. One could make an argument that if he would have had a different training system that included lower mileage (lower than 200) and smart recovery he could actually have performed better that what he did. Maybe he got his wins in spite of his overtraining, not because of them.

Many athletes succeed despite garbage training. It's amazing to see what natural talent can do even when you're doing your best to waste it - just look at how many NFL players totally ignore diet and recovery. That being said, Tony had quite a bit of success before his training caught up with him, and he was definitely an inspiration to me back when I was just getting into running. Someone had to see what happened at 200mpw.

asdjgaskdg wrote:

John Utah wrote:

You don’t know that at all. One could make an argument that if he would have had a different training system that included lower mileage (lower than 200) and smart recovery he could actually have performed better that what he did. Maybe he got his wins in spite of his overtraining, not because of them.

Many athletes succeed despite garbage training. It's amazing to see what natural talent can do even when you're doing your best to waste it - just look at how many NFL players totally ignore diet and recovery. That being said, Tony had quite a bit of success before his training caught up with him, and he was definitely an inspiration to me back when I was just getting into running. Someone had to see what happened at 200mpw.

Derek Clayton and Gerry Lindgren already taught that lesson.

Did Anton ever do a block of say 130 mile weeks?

Yin and Yang wrote:

What are some things,

specifically, that you don’t agree on?

Damm it, came here to post this and you beat me to it.

Perma-injured? That's a funny way of saying "disabled." Thanks to his own stupidity.

That said, he got what he asked for. Gravity always wins, indeed.

In one conversation he pretty much said that he thought every elite marathon road runner (i.e. sub 2:06-2:08 guy) was probably doping. But when I brought up the fact that I thought some top level ultra runners were also doping and that ultra running was not clean he argued that the sport is basically 100% clean and that I was being "self righteous" (his words). I also do not consider myself to be a "hipster." Finally, as much as I love running shirtless in the Colorado sun as well, skin cancer is an actual concern for me. To tell you the truth I don't know the guy very well and have only interacted with him a few times in person over the years. It requires a certain mindset want to camp out in your truck and crush mountains all day (for like 4-10 hours everyday!) for days and weeks on end. I don't have that mindset. Anton seemed to be really into that...which is fine,...but like I said it is a certain mindset. So far Anton has run a faster times than me at Western States and UTMB (I ran horribly in those races)....and I have yet to run Leadville (he still has the 3rd fastest time there I believe). However, racing head-to-head I did beat him....as well as got his White River 50-mile CR. To be fair, I think Anton had to run super high mileage to be competitive....maybe not 200mpw but certainly well over 100mpw. He wasn't super fast or talented at college XC/track and I doubt he could have ever broken 2:25 in the marathon. I wish him all the best with his health and recovery (and I also just realized this thread originated a pretty long time ago!)

Arrrrrrrg wrote:

Yin and Yang wrote:

What are some things,

specifically, that you don’t agree on?

Damm it, came here to post this and you beat me to it.

S. Canaday wrote:

In one conversation he pretty much said tha...

God, you are such a flake. LOL But I guess that's why we love you.

And yeah, you are not a hipster, nobody considers you a hipster. Nerd maybe, or a geek, or more realistically, a neo maxi zoom dweebie.

Keep up the good work Sage!

I can remember a Tony Kroopika posting here before he got famous!!

Anton K fanboy wrote:

Anton is a great example how overtraining can kill the best talent.

I hope some will learn because Anton never did.

You are wrong.

He knew (even said so few times) he had no talent.

That is why he thought he needed to overcompensate with high mileage.

S. Canaday wrote:

In one conversation he pretty much said that he thought every elite marathon road runner (i.e. sub 2:06-2:08 guy) was probably doping.

From how you talk about Anton. It sounds like he is somebody I would like to hangout with. And you sound like a Hillary supporter. Need I say more?

So, he said ultra is 100% clean? Ok. He is a certified Boulder clown. You, Sage, you're a nerd.

Anton Krupicka wrote:

suddenly, I found that, in my 20s, I could handle up to 200 miles per week of running, for at least a few weeks at a time, before something broke down."

So what He's saying is that he's a complete f****ing idiot.

Interesting that you shifted into a “me vs him” in terms of times run and how “you’ve beaten him” - attempting to validate yourself? In terms of U.S. ultrarunning greats - he’s probably top-5/top-7 - you’re probably, maybe, 20th?

MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:

When he said, in some article I read, some bulls*t about "I found out my body could handle 150 miles a week for a few weeks before I got hurt", I just laughed and said "this guy doesn't get it at all".

That's moronic thinking. Your body COULDN'T handle 150 miles per week, hence why you got hurt.

Then he would rest/recover and within a few weeks of coming back, be doing 150 mile weeks again for a few weeks before getting hurt again.

Rinse. Repeat.

If you don't learn from past failures, you're doomed to repeat them..or in his case be perma-injured and a "shell" of what he was at his peak (although to be fair he was always light years faster than what I could do...ha).

So you thought it was necessary to repeat what 2 others guys just said in this thread?

beat me to it. i was reading this thread and it's funny how on two posts sage you had to point out that you once beat anton and list the places he's beat you, then your alibis, then the places you were faster than him. i don't recall a single person on any of these posts asking you, but you filled in the space with your narcissism anyway.

i bet you want so badly for this guy to be your friend. clown.

go ahead, coach sandy, report this comment and get it deleted. let's get the discussion back on anton.

ronald mexico, esq wrote:

you filled in the space with your narcissism anyway.

making an appearance on a thread about Krupicka is a great opportunity for visibility and marketing

ronald mexico, esq wrote:

go ahead, coach sandy, report this comment and get it deleted. let's get the discussion back on anton.

Who is coach sandy?