RW says 43% of women - just 4% of men - have been harassed on their runs

"Fearing for your safety" is not a requirement for harassment.

I literally had a woman shout "I wanna f*ck!" at me during a run. I shrugged it off. Were the gender roles reversed, probably not so much. It is still harassment either way.

It's got to be 100%. It's not a gender issue here.

Back in school in the 90s, I got all the usual stuff of 'run Forrest, run', 'keep on running' etc.

However, running has become so trendy these days that I've not had any trouble that I can think of apart from a group of teenage girls being very silly when I ran past them with my shirt off.

Oh and some jerks dog took me out and the owner couldn't give a sh!t which made the red mist descend.

Stay safe out there fellow runners!

#metoo

So there are two issues with this study, that I see.

1. 4% versus 100% - how do you define this? If I get harassed once, as a man running, does that mean that I have been harassed? And that counts exactly the same as a woman who gets harassed twice a week on her runs? I'd say that those two situations are not in any way comparable, yet the study possibly does conflate the two. I have been harassed (as a man) while running, maybe it happens once every couple of years. My girlfriend, on the other hand, deals with comments like "hey beautiful" or "what do you have on under those shorts" on a weekly basis. To say that we have both been "harassed" does not do justice to the situation.

2. A man getting harassed and a woman getting harassed are not the same thing. Why? Simple reason that one is threatening and the other is humorous, or possibly even flattering. A man could kill a woman with his bare hands. A woman could not do that to a man. So the same comment directed at a woman from a man versus at a man from a woman is completely different, and not on the same level.

Easy. You are so high strung a wave would be sexual harrassment for you.

Btw, the poll doesn't explicitly define the harrassment as sexual. It's a broad encompassing of harrassment, most of which is the threat of violence for men, a luxury I doubt you've never experienced as a woman on the run.

Women for Sure get more harassement while running. Running with my sister we got honked at three times in one Run. Not harassement in my book but its close

Again rojo is stupid as f*ck wrote:

You guys are kidding right? I have a very, very hard time believing any guy had actually feared for his safety as a women might when guys say crude things to them. Run Forrest run, you idiots consider that harrassment? Being called a fag isnt even sexual harrassment, bullying maybe, but are you truly scared because of it. I'd be willing to bet in most cases of cars turning around and comi g back at one of you poor souls, you tried to man up and either shouted somethi ng at them or flipped them off. Either way that isn't sexual harrasment. F*cking rojo, way to be the victim, mansplain how we're so victimized some more. Idiot.

Truth right there. Smh at the amount of cluelessness in this thread, starting with rojo.

In my 30+ years, I have heard it all. Whistles and catcalls from both men and women. Nasty remarks from both. I guarantee, it more than 4% for men. I have had my XC runners (boys) finish a run and tell me about the stuff people yell out their car window at them.

Yeah, that's got to be way off. I can also speak for the group I used to run with. It was constant. Most in good fun some not so much. Most of the time when someone yelled out of the window at me I couldn't understand what they were saying.

I've even been harassed during races a few times.

The article should say that when people are yelled at while running, 43% of women, and 4% of men consider it to be harassment.

But then that would propagate the patriarchal construct that men and women are different, so no, the article can't say that!

Exactly. Men aren't scared when they are yelled at by strangers. Surprise, surprise. Men and women are different. We have larger muscles and stupid juice (testosterone) coursing through our veins. Rojo is not making himself the victim, he's "mansplianing" that he doesn't feel like a victim.

It's not a social construct that must be changed. It just is what it is. Get over it.

In high school we had a group of young kids who would pass us on our run frequently riding their bikes, almost always smoking cigarettes (this is buttf*ck Appalachia). One time they yelled, "where are the other half of your shorts"? My buddy immediately said, "where is the other half of your d*ck"? Without missing a beat the kid, who was probably 10-13yo, said, "in your mom". Best quip I've ever heard.

If harassed is some joker yelling something like Run Forrest run then nobody needs to be worried about harassment. Good grief. What a bunch of wimps.

Homophobic?

Phobic

Phobia

They were afraid of you because you were gay?

The manly way to jog is wearing a wool hat and throwing out one or two punches every 20-30m.

Of course you aren't really running, but more like shuffling along.

You guys don't seem to get it.

Yes, women probably count it as harassment when someone yells something like like "nice @ss" at them, while men probably don't. This is probably because it isn't as funny to have sexual comments made about you in public everyday, as opposed to the one or two times some lady says something like that to a guy. Men might be more subjected to remarks about their sexuality, but that is just ret@rded middle schoolers. And as for"Run Forrest, Run", that isn't harassment, just annoying.

However, you guys seem to miss the point, and I see it a lot running in a city and as a high school runner, and it's that men are not subject to the level of direct physical harassment and stalking behaviors men are. I see female runners have their butt smacked by someone walking on the sidewalk next to them more than I'd like to admit and I've seen local high school teams, although usually not mine, follow behind a woman for multiple blocks all while making sexual comments.

I mean, I've definitely heard the "Forrest" jokes and whistles and such but never anything that I'd label 'harassment.' I've been fortunate thus far.

That is not correct, if you have been a runner out on the roads training for more than ten years or so you will have been harassed. Personally I could care less about verbal abuse, it is the projectiles that have been thrown at me that are of more concern. Also the cars that have swerved at me that really shake you up. Bottom line is that there are some angry people out there and it is best to keep your composure and not react negatively.

FitzyXC wrote:

"Fearing for your safety" is not a requirement for harassment.

I literally had a woman shout "I wanna f*ck!" at me during a run. I shrugged it off. Were the gender roles reversed, probably not so much. It is still harassment either way.

Likely that's because you don't hear about too many women physically attacking or raping male runners. Sure, I've shrugged off plenty of comments too, but there is a lingering subconscious fear there.

As far as the person who asked what I consider harassment, well think of it like LetsRun, but in real life where people aren't hiding behind a computer. Aside from the usual honks and catcalls (which are often physically threatening), I've been followed by cars and followed by a cyclist who kept asking if I'd come over to his apartment.

Yes, harassment works both ways, to men as well. I've seen male teammates get physically threatened and attacked with beer bottles, etc.