How many miles do you put on your shoes before you change them out?

Yeah, lot of tread, but I'm pretty light and run on grass half the time. For me it's more about the structure of the shoe giving up (in an unbalanced way). Most of the guys I run with change out every three to six hundred miles.

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About 500 in the Asics 2000 series. I used to blow through the upper mesh but now (I think asics improved that part) I tend to wear through until there is little tread left.

For those who wear shoes to 2000 miles, do you have any tread left?

Yes the outsole is fine and has tread left (if there were any to begin with), for the couple shoes that I've had that have gone around 4000 miles, and others above 1400 miles (see my shoe list earlier in this thread). Outsole wear has never been a limiting factor for me. I don't scuff my feet at all. Some runners, like my GF, scuff their feet every stride, and you can hear it with every step on some surfaces.

As you can see from my shoe list, most of my shoes were retired due to the uppers falling apart. Partly, this is because shoe companies try to keep their shoes lighter these days, and use really thin materials. Sometimes their reinforcement overlays are poorly designed and cause stress risers in the thinner materials that are being reinforced. Some also has to do with my feet being wide in the forefoot, though I try to minimize that effect by not getting shoes that are too tight, and often run without insoles to give myself more volume.

I know shoes can be made with uppers that can stand up to 1500 miles of even my feet though because I've had some. My Puma Trailfox 4 with 1001 miles on it has uppers that look close to new. It's old school, stitched together rather than welded overlay, one piece designs common now. It's actually not that heavy either, and I'm sure it could be optimized to be lighter with the same durability (lighter back half/heel counter of the upper. I have only torn shoes in the front, never the back half). The Altra prototype test shoe that I wore to over 1400 miles had a generic, one piece, thicker mesh upper with no overlays at all that they said to ignore/was not the part being wear tested. That showed me that a durable upper could be made with just a durable mesh. The overlays and stuff are mostly for style and can sometimes even make things worse durability wise.

I care about the midsole shape and feel, but I can be perfectly happy with a EVA midsole with 1,000 miles in it already if it wasn't too thin to start with. It doesn't have to feel like new to still feel good to me. My 600 mile Cliftons and 800+ mile Huaka midsole feel better than most brand new shoes of other makes. Most others will care about midsole compression though. But apparently that durability problem has been solved with Adidas Boost type midsoles, that many have said basically don't wear out.

If shoe companies combine the Boost type midsole with the old school, well designed uppers that last, like the Puma Trailfox 4s, you'd see a lot more shoes that could last 1000-2000 miles for most runners, at least those who don't scuff their feet.

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I put about 500 miles on my Saucony Guides.

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Given we all make $250,000/year, have a model wife and a sub 16 5k on here, this is the only correct answer. There is no point in not using new shoes every time you run. You know what they say...the fresher the berry, the sweeter the juice.

I usually try to change my shoes at least 3 times a year depending on how hard I am training.

Pair for the summer, fall winter, spring into summer. Some last longer, but for the past 13 years I have stuck with the asics gel nimbus. Just try to find them on sale in my size and snatch up a few pairs. I have so many old pairs laying around.

I can almost always get at least 600 out of a pair. Typically the lower the stack height the less I get. NB Zantes and Brooks pure connects typically got the least, more traditional neutral trainers like NB 890 and Nike Pegasus got the most. I've gotten over 1000 on some NB 890s. Most I ever got was 1100 on a pair of Zoom Elite 5's only replaced them because the rubber was wearing off.

I go through a pair every season/off-season. One pair for summer running, usually about 400-500 miles, a new one at the start of the cross country season, usually a bit over 500, another new shoe for the winter, about 500-600 miles, and one more new pair for the track season, about 550 miles. I do it this way because it's better to avoid changing shoes during a racing season and if one of my shoes that I've been wearing for 4 months suddenly gives out on me before my state race, I don't want to have to change shoes and my form. I feel like this system is pretty safe. I have had teammates who run 400 miles on a pair of shoes and get shin splints, and I've had a friend who ran 1,500 miles on one pair and has never gotten injured. It really just depends on who you are and who used to running you are.

You are an OCD freak and potentially fit the profile of a domestic terror threat. That said, I like it.

Ha, not as OCD as that might appear. I didn't even keep a training for the decade before the shoes on the list. List came from the shoes page of my online training log.

How is this possible?? I don't get it. Every pair of running shoes I've ever worn are dead after, like, 300 miles. And when I mean dead, I mean the forefoot of the shoe is completely worn away and there might be holes or even chunks missing from parts of the forefoot area.

How can people get 1000+ miles out of their shoes?! That is incredible! I have to get new shoes every 3-4 weeks!

What are your secrets?

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I get light trainers.

There is not much to break down in the first place.

10oz or less.

So, I try and get 6-700 miles at least.

I get 800-1000 out of my Pegasus.

600-1,500 depending on the shoe. My Adidas https://stepadrom.com/best-of-adidas-sneakers-for-women-2017/ boosts tend to last quite a while. minimum 1,000. My golf nike https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008LXDAQY/?tag=stepadrom-20 and etc tend to get 600-1000. Maybe less if my legs really start feeling like crap and I think it might be the shoes, but that tends to be rare

200 miles in Assic Kayano. I retire them once the foam under the heal starts to flatten. Usually buy them online/last year's for $90 to $100. Once done running in them I use them as walk around then yard shoes. I would put 600-700 miles on them while in college and on a budget.

I usually go 400-500 miles per pair.

My trainers are Mizuno Wave Riders, and while they are long-time favorites, I find that they don't last as long as some others I tried in the past.

Also, if you care about how much you spend on running shoes, but are still paying $100+ per pair, maybe you should ask yourself how important it is to have the latest colors. Seriously, it's not that hard to find cheaper shoes. When the new models come out, the old ones go on sale. In November or December, after the new Wave Riders come out, I buy a year's worth of the old ones, typically at $50-$60 a pair.

I’m 45 years old, 5’9”, 172 lbs. I think y’all are crazy!

I only get 400 miles. Buy last years model online and save 40%.

Running shoes are cheaper then MRIs!!!

andicamp wrote:

I usually go 400-500 miles per pair.

My trainers are Mizuno Wave Riders, and while they are long-time favorites, I find that they don't last as long as some others I tried in the past.

Also, if you care about how much you spend on running shoes, but are still paying $100+ per pair, maybe you should ask yourself how important it is to have the latest colors. Seriously, it's not that hard to find cheaper shoes. When the new models come out, the old ones go on sale. In November or December, after the new Wave Riders come out, I buy a year's worth of the old ones, typically at $50-$60 a pair.

I also wear Wave Riders. I replace mine when they start to feel like they've lost something, which usually is around 450-500 miles.