I am super happy Galen Rupp won Chicago! I met him on a pre-Chicago Marathon shakeout run outside of the Chicago Hilton and got a picture with him. Some of his speed must have rubbed off on me because I just ran a 2:52 PR by over 17 minutes with a positive split on the 2nd half of only 10 seconds. I saw and took a pic of Hasay training too and I am happy she did so well too!
scorpion_runner wrote:
Yes! I would be a 2:04 marathoner and not a 2:09 marathoner. Thats a huge difference. 2:04 will get me invites( appearance fees) to all the major marathons. 2:09 will not even with a win!
So you don't think winning an Olympic medal gets you appearance fees?
Do you honestly not think Rupp had the highest appearance fees in this race?
SEDave wrote:
scorpion_runner wrote:Yes! I would be a 2:04 marathoner and not a 2:09 marathoner. Thats a huge difference. 2:04 will get me invites( appearance fees) to all the major marathons. 2:09 will not even with a win!
So you don't think winning an Olympic medal gets you appearance fees?
Do you honestly not think Rupp had the highest appearance fees in this race?
Yeah, I think scorpion has proven himself to be a fool, and not really worth arguing with. He's either a troll, obtuse, or an idiot... possibly all three.
Yes, keep hating these Olympic medalists because they are "slow". What an idiot!
scorpion_runner wrote:
No one hates rupp. No one. If he was a fast marathoner, he would be appreciated, but he isn't, and that is the problem.
After what Ryan Hall did, and what KK did, no one is going give Rupp a pass for winning slow races, and running 2:09 on a fast course ( especially after he stated that he was going to go after 2:06)
Mo farah is the same thing. Mo ran slow races, and coming after Bekele, Lets run wasn't and isnt going to accept that.
If you run like crap, no matter if you win or lose, you will be called out. Period
Bekele does not have a lot of marathon wins, but people love him because they know he is going to RACE. same thing with Kipchoge and Kipsang.
it was the same thing with Ryan Hall as well . He never won a marathon, but he raced like a Kenyan and always showed up to race....
And then Rupp comes in with the snail, scripted races? No. You said you can run fast, then run fast. And go after the elites.
He could win dozens of marathons, but if they are all around 2:08 and 2:09. He will not be rewarded for it, and will always live in the shadows of Ryan Hall, KK, and possibly even Meb
You sexist pig. wrote:
IndyJ wrote:Again, it isn’t that complicated. It is hot here today.
Again, it is complicated when you take in to account the women's times.
It isn't that complicated; he destroyed the competition with a blazing last 5
Congrats to Rupp, but winning in 2:09:18 is still less impressive than Ritz coming in 9th at Chicago in 2:07:47 in 2012.
That's not hating, it's just pointing out that Chicago was soft this year and Rupp took advantage of it. I would like to see Rupp run London or Berlin against a solid field and see what he can do against real competition.
Nice, but still... wrote:
Congrats to Rupp, but winning in 2:09:18 is still less impressive than Ritz coming in 9th at Chicago in 2:07:47 in 2012.
That's not hating, it's just pointing out that Chicago was soft this year and Rupp took advantage of it. I would like to see Rupp run London or Berlin against a solid field and see what he can do against real competition.
Rupp likely would have been 3rd in Berlin. Probably 2nd at Worlds behind Boston champ G. Kirui. And looking at the NYC field, he could most likely win that race. So no, Rupp didn't pick a soft race, it's just that he's one of the best marathoners in the world right now.
As for Rupp's win being less impressive than Ritz's 9th (4 minutes behind the winner), well that's your opinion, but it is a strange one.
It was soft despite having the defending champ, the WR holder, and the Olympic Silver medalist?
The win is nice. A win is a win.
But really, it's like he's celebrating a 12.4 100 meter win at the Special Olympics.
Rupp has to go a bit quicker to at least get closer to the men's WR than the women's WR.
I didn't like it when Gatlin won this Summer either. This sport has become the 1998 MLB or the Tour de France of the early 2000's. Kind of entertaining to watch, but you're not really celebrating true sportsmen.
lucky ducky wrote:As for Rupp's win being less impressive than Ritz's 9th (4 minutes behind the winner), well that's your opinion, but it is a strange one.
It's strange to think that 2:07:47 is better than 2:09:18 on the same course? That's not my opinion, it's math.
Rupp may turn out to better than Ritz or Hall at the marathon, but so far he has just had better timing.
Beautiful Day wrote:
The win is nice. A win is a win.
But really, it's like he's celebrating a 12.4 100 meter win at the Special Olympics.
Rupp has to go a bit quicker to at least get closer to the men's WR than the women's WR.
How did the men's WR holder do yesterday?
lucky ducky wrote:
How did the men's WR holder do yesterday?
That WR was set over 3 years ago. Kimetto hasn't been the same since. Not really worth bragging about beating a has-been.
lucky ducky wrote:
Beautiful Day wrote:The win is nice. A win is a win.
But really, it's like he's celebrating a 12.4 100 meter win at the Special Olympics.
Rupp has to go a bit quicker to at least get closer to the men's WR than the women's WR.
How did the men's WR holder do yesterday?
how's he done in the last THREE years, numbnuts?
please keep up.
One small step for man; one giant leap for Caucasians.
I don't think devastating is quite the right term. The posts by some of the adamant Rupp haters are downright disturbing.
Tyrone Green wrote:
One small step for man; one giant leap for Caucasians.
I'm a Rupp hater and not only have I gone home "DEVASTATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" (I've only just got home by the way as I've been at the 24 hour bar drowning my sorrows) but I'm down in my basement feeling absolutely HUMILIATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
All I can hope for now is that something comes out of the USADA NOP investigation.
COELHO64 wrote:
NEVER UNDERSTOOD WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS THE GREATEST AMERICAN RUNNER OF ALL TIME. NOW, THEY LOVE THE EPO KING AMERICAN KENYAN LAGAT. WTF??
Uncle Juice wrote:Let this win sink in Rupp haters. He WON!
No go back to your hobby jogging group runs.
Quotes like yours are the reason for much of the hate. Over-exaggerated claims just anger people and they start to root against the poor guy. Truth is that he ran for the win: stayed with the pack and then laid down the hammer when he was supposed to. Equally true, however, is that the competition was limited and he has yet to run a great marathon time in his career. Hopefully he progresses to more competitive marathons in future years and improves his times. But if people stopped making ridiculous claims regarding Rupp's historical greatness, I think there would be more supporters hoping that he continues to advance.
[quote]zohan wrote:
Anyone using an Adam Sandler character for a handle ought to be banned for life
Rupp neutral wrote: Quotes like yours are the reason for much of the hate. Over-exaggerated claims just anger people and they start to root against the poor guy. Truth is that he ran for the win: stayed with the pack and then laid down the hammer when he was supposed to. Equally true, however, is that the competition was limited and he has yet to run a great marathon time in his career. Hopefully he progresses to more competitive marathons in future years and improves his times. But if people stopped making ridiculous claims regarding Rupp's historical greatness, I think there would be more supporters hoping that he continues to advance.
+1
2:09 and a win is good. It's not a breakthrough. Hall ran faster, Ritz ran faster in Chicago, and Meb won New York and Boston.
I expect Rupp to improve and run faster than 2:09, but he actually needs to do it before he gets credit for it.