Holy snot Brandon Miller just ran 1:49.87 to win aau

He reminds me of Granville from CA in the mid 90s. I think this kid might have a 1:46 or better in him in HS. But I just sense he won't see much improvement into college.

Hope I'm wrong though. He's gutsy AF.

not a track coach plz wrote:

TrackCoach wrote:

Wow, that's amazing, I always thought penultimate means next to last.

Then why would you type "the 3rd 200 is where you gather yourself for the penultimate 200 which is usually the fastest"? That makes zero sense....the 3rd 200 IS the penultimate 200!!

Also, you know nothing about 800m running if you think the 3rd 200 of a race is the fastest lol.

Yes, so much wrong with TrackCoach. Penultimate means 2nd to last which is equivalent to next to last - which in this case is the 3rd 200 of the 800 (since there are 4 of them).

Boogieman wrote:

Um..... wrote:

5th

I'm trying to figure out why this was brought up? Lol. They are different sports and it is much easier to be a teen and elite in swimming.

Lol

This is a lie.

Sorry had to call you out.

not a track coach plz wrote:

TrackCoach wrote:

Wow, that's amazing, I always thought penultimate means next to last.

Then why would you type "the 3rd 200 is where you gather yourself for the penultimate 200 which is usually the fastest"? That makes zero sense....the 3rd 200 IS the penultimate 200!!

Also, you know nothing about 800m running if you think the 3rd 200 of a race is the fastest lol.

I actually know quite a bit about the 800; I ran it and coached it for a combined 26 years. Personally, I never won an NCAA individual championship and never made a national team, but I've done just about everything else short of that. For nearly 2 decades, I've had the pleasure of watching athletes I coached (coach of record -or worked with) at some level compete in H.S. National meets, NCAA and even global championships.

Here we go, a classic 800m race...

1. Get out as fast as you need to positon yourself; the first 50 meters is a controlled sprint. You should be in position by the time you reach the first straight. Your position could be in the lead, mid-pace or the rear, it depends your qualities and what you expect to accomplish. You want to hit the 1st 200 about a second faster than the 2nd 200 and your 1st 400 should be about 2 seconds faster than your 2nd 400. Always be aware of your 400m split, which if you are right on it, it should give you confidence that your race plan is in effect. If you got out too fast, see it as a sign of big PR, but you can't slow down, because you can't get back what's already been put into your legs.

2. 'If possible', don't make any hard moves in the first 400. Only make a subtle move if necessary in the 3rd 200 if runners are slowing down and blocking your path to the leaders. 'Only make one hard move in a race.'

3. The first 400 should feel like you just ran a 400, but no so hard that you can't keep going. Maintain your speed and position through the 400 to 500 and stride down the backstretch from 500-600. You should not purposely slow down, but make a slight break from your sprint posture by opening up your stride. Some people call it striding down the final backstretch or gathering yourself.

5. At the 600, make your first and only hard move and begin your push for home. From 600-700 you should be practically flat out as hard as you can.

6. Coming off the final turn, at around 710, you should be lactic. Fight off fatigue by maintaining your form, lift, pump your arms and fight for each step to the finish line.

...every athlete and every race is different, but this is classic 800 racing

Let me know if you have any question?

Ignore the grammatical idiot.

penultimate has always meant "next to last"

The word for the one before that, the "third from last" is antepenultimate.

These are both commonly used and extremely well-known in Latin poetry.

Anyone got an idea of his 400m ability?

What a pompous ass you are.

"Not a perfect race?" The kid is 15 no one runs perfect races at 15.

I have no idea where you are coming from calling me a self-important donkey. (that was not necessary) Of course no one runs a perfect race and certainly not at age 15. I said it was not a perfect race in the same way I would say it if someone got bumped, boxed in or went out way too fast, etc. Saying someone ran horrible is being critical, saying it was not a perfect race is a compliment, as in saying the athlete is capable of running faster. I think what Brandon did is incredible and I think he is capable of running faster...I am not sure how you misunderstood that.

I am pretty certain you are a member of Brandon's camp, perhaps a friend or family member. Please note, Brandon like any star athlete is going to get a lot of attention. People will be positive and critical, either way, learn to keep your emotions in check and not chase after everyone who doesn't sing his praises.

He opened the season with a 48 open 400. He has run 47.xx splits in 4 x 4 relays on multiple occasions (including yesterday when his club team ran 3:12 to set the 15-16 club team record). I heard he split 46.xx in a close race against Hasani Barr (a standout sophomore 200-400 runner who also runs for the same club team as Brandon Miller). He ran a leg on a 1:27 state champ 4 x 200 squad.

He ran 4:02 for 1500 as an 8th grader. Earlier this week he ran 4:02 for 1500 again but in a tactical race with a 56 last lap (suggesting capability closer to 3:56-3:58 in an evenly paced all out effort). He ran 16:55 in a flat 5k XC race but was in the mid 17s on normal courses.

He's definitely stronger in the 400 than in longer races, but his 1500 ability is not bad. There's more room for improvement if he works a little in building endurance gradually.

Awesome runner but who knows how good he will ultimately be.

"..your position could be in the lead, mid-pace or the rear..."

I don't buy this for a single second. There's no way one would either be leading the race, in the pack, or last in a race...

"penultimately be"

Bet he'll run 1:45.24 indoors in 2022.