I checked there too - saw other events, but no 204 NYC marathon, or am I misssing something?
I checked there too - saw other events, but no 204 NYC marathon, or am I misssing something?
I gained weight when I quit marathon training.
I lost it when I started again.
Should I call the paper and get a jump to conclusions story written about my experience?
Everyone gets hurt from running. But if you add something small, consistently, you'll get high mileage within a couple years without any major increases at any time. To do this, you should seek out soft well-graded trails at first and do lots of preventive exercises when you get tweaks. The mileage itself doesn't necessarily lead to injuries. I couldn't run much more than two weeks in a row in high school without getting injured and I was doing 20-40 mpw at the time. And aside from one nine week period where I got all my pr's and upped my mileage to 60 average and a high of 91, I was constantly injured in college as well on mileage that aside from that period was probably at a max of 40.
Mis-read thread title, was expecting this to be about flatulence. So disappointed.
run for 30-45 minutes, believe that you need to consume a gel and drink sugary sports drinks before, during and after. Spike blood glucose levels, with a spike in insulin levels to follow. Increased insulin inhibits the body from burning fat, and a hunger response follows shortly after. Hmmmm....I think I'll eat something starchy or sugary....the cycle continues.
Wow.
If that's all their miles...
How to train for Boston:
18 miles for Feb, 0 miles March, 20 miles for April. That's total for the month, not per week.
Can one call that training for a marathon? Dumb article. No correlation.
"But sometimes, eating too little can also help pack on the pounds. Elbaz attributes her double-digit weight gain to consuming too few calories"
Just WOW. How can you be that stupid? How is that possible?
I qualified for Boston and ran Boston, where I re-qualified.
After every Boston, I gain about 7 pounds when I take a brief break (2-3 weeks). It takes me almost a full year to lose it again. When I'm training, I lose a pound every two months. In order to do this, I have to eat very little. I don't drink any sugary sports drinks. I don't drink any recovery drinks. I don't eat before I do my runs. I try to eat very little after my run is over. I don't eat cupcakes
This is the life of an older female runner, when it becomes harder for us to qualify than men, judging by age and gender graded standards.
I read a study that demonstrated that when men want to lose weight, all they have to do is increase their exercise. When women want to lose weight, they need to increase exercise AND cut calories. This is a general rule. I'm sure there are exceptions to the rule.
From the comments on this thread, it appears we have all males responding. Have more sympathy for situations you don't understand. Thanks.
jjjjjj wrote:
according to people who study obesity, running doesn't do as good a job as diet because people increase their calories as much or more than the extra calories they burn from running. However, those are people doing limited mileage and not burning a lot of calories and probably drinking lots of sports drinks. I have yet to meet an overweight person running 100 miles per week.
Depends on "overweight".
I've run that before and been 5'8" 150. From eyeballing it, probably around 14-15% BF. Lean to most people, but no where near abs of any kind and definitely hints of love handles. I.e. fat compared to most serious runners.
Even riding 20 hours a week I've managed to out eat my riding. It seems that for some people eating food isn't that big of a deal or they just get full fairly easily and are in tune with that. Those people don't outeat high mileage. Others like myself, we can just keep eating and weight must always be watched. I'll know I'm satisfied, but if I'm not attentive I'll keep eating until I'm quite full, or to fufill cravings. I can, without any difficulty, start pounding back 5,000, 6,000, even 7,000+ kcal days if I just eat everything I want, and you can't outrun that.
I weighed 312lbs when i started running 3 years ago. I'm up to about 10 miles a week of running and i recently weighed myself at 386lbs. ( 75lbs gain in weight) I always use the same scale and my diet hasn't changed all that much except i started eating more rubarb pie after my runs. I tried wrapping a garbage bag around my body to help sweat out some calories but didn't help too much I just gained more weight back. I don't know where to turn. I always read on this site how runners are always breaking marathon world records and one day I want to do the same but I feel like my day will never come. It's very frustrating to put so much effort into my running and it just feels like i'm going backwards in life. I don't know what to do anymore.
LetsRun.com wrote:
The key to a thread is the title.I just posted the other responses from your thread in this one and deleted the other thread.
Just STOP!
Runningart2004 wrote:
You don't get fit by running, but you have to be fit to run.
I bet everyone on this board who is a runner was already relatively skinny and fit looking before they started running.
This concept is not new.
https://runningugly.com/tag/rachel-cosgrove/Alan
I agree with a version of this. Problem with these folks is they are new to running and seemingly fitness in general. I wouldn't think just taking to marathon training is the right thing to do. Rather slowly and progressively and comprehensively developing and educating the life tool kit:
Sprints, mid distance, long distance, very long distance.
Many other kinds of exercise, maintenance, physical fitness, recreation, sport, etc
Life management skills
Nutrition, cooking, food acquistion skills
Stress management skills
Time management, housekeeping skills, sleep and resting practice
Financial health
The list goes on and on
We have IMO a screwed up society: cultural media, social scenes and social media, and work life, which in each case is encouraging low common denominator, quick gratification, compare oneself to others quick versions and urges for things. In the case of social and work life, it is not just an influence but a obligatory force sponsoring bad processes.
oh my dear lord wrote:
xcrunner6 wrote:If i run 100 miles a week I can. and do.
You really can't, and shouldn't. But keep on ruining your training, no worries bro.
Look, not everyone is craving to eat shit. There's so much food that's delicious and healthy. Find out how to have balanced eating habits naturally and joyfully, not because you need to force yourself.
LetsRun.com wrote:
We came across an interesting article in the NY Post where many women say arathon training caused them to gain a lot of weight - between 15 and 30 pounds.
http://nypost.com/2016/10/03/marathon-training-made-me-fat/Have any of you put on major weight while training?
All of these porkers were running very low mileage and using it as an excuse to gorge themselves. No one who is running under 60 miles a week is doing any kind of "marathon training." Over 60 real miles a week at a training pace, fat people basically do not exist.
John QP wrote:
most guys on here have the skinnyfat physique. Never going to get any girls with that. Hit the gym and lift. You don't want to be a scrawny little runt
Has the idea of "skinnyfat" ever stood up to a Body Fat test ?
marafun wrote:
I qualified for Boston and ran Boston, where I re-qualified.
After every Boston, I gain about 7 pounds when I take a brief break (2-3 weeks). It takes me almost a full year to lose it again. When I'm training, I lose a pound every two months. In order to do this, I have to eat very little. I don't drink any sugary sports drinks. I don't drink any recovery drinks. I don't eat before I do my runs. I try to eat very little after my run is over. I don't eat cupcakes
This is the life of an older female runner, when it becomes harder for us to qualify than men, judging by age and gender graded standards.
I read a study that demonstrated that when men want to lose weight, all they have to do is increase their exercise. When women want to lose weight, they need to increase exercise AND cut calories. This is a general rule. I'm sure there are exceptions to the rule.
From the comments on this thread, it appears we have all males responding. Have more sympathy for situations you don't understand. Thanks.
I'm a female that you assumed was a male responding.
My experience is that it is not the mileage itself, but rather the intensity of the workouts that makes a big difference.
When I do a high-intensity workout, I need to have your bowel on empty, that means not having eaten a thing for (at least) 3-4 hours before the workout. After the workout, my metabolism is so messed up that I do not really feel like eating much.
On easy days, I can run right after lunch and an easy pace for long miles makes me incredibly hungry (same for biking). I can easily see how people only doing easy and long miles may be putting up weight rather than losing it.
Guy With Wife wrote:
I'll add a little anecdotal but personal story to the mix.
I ran in college and was a XC/10k/5k guy. I am pretty thin and have never had issues putting on excess weight, even in lower mileage times (work, kids, etc.) My wife is also think and pretty fast, to boot. She ran in college, too, but she was a XC/1,500/5k runner.
I immediately started running marathons after college while she stopped racing and just ran. After a while, she started doing other forms of working out (elliptical, yoga, barre classes, etc.). She actually lost weight after she started doing other forms of working out. She got leaner and less muscular, especially in the legs.
So fast forward a few years and we are married. She decides that she wants to run Boston with me, so she needs to train for a BQ. So she starts running more and we both go and race a marathon. She runs an easy 3:34 and qualifies for Boston the following year. She steps up training and probably maxes out at like 70 mpw leading up to Boston. She runs under 3:30 at Boston but over the entire 18-month process gains about 10-15 pounds.
After Boston, she goes back to her normal workout routine and the weight comes off. She was very aware of it at the time and she never looked bad, but it was something we discussed because it was so odd.
With regard to food, we didn't really do anything differently. This was before kids, so we had a pretty set routine and it wasn't like she was sneaking burgers or something. Yeah, calorie intake probably went up with the harder workouts but nothing crazy.
I cannot see this happening to me, but maybe it is specific to women?
Is this a serious conversation?! Marathon training made me fat? Next article, eating pizza for every meal made me skinny.
People who gain weight regardless of exercise are taking in more calories then they are burning that day/week/month.
Stop eating like its your job and eat to fuel your body. Training for a marathon isn't an excuse to binge eat after each run.
I am normally 190 pounds I lift weights, etc, when I start to train for a marathon and get to race day I am around 175pounds.... so no marathon training doesn't make you fat. Next question
Runningart2004 wrote:
You don't get fit by running, but you have to be fit to run.
I bet everyone on this board who is a runner was already relatively skinny and fit looking before they started running.
This concept is not new.
https://runningugly.com/tag/rachel-cosgrove/Alan
I started at 175 lbs on a 5-8 frame. Got down to 125. You don't have to be fit to run, you just have to pay attention to what you eat at first.