What will you do if Evan Jager breaks the steeple world record?

coach d wrote:

This is El Guerrouj's WR in the mile:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvCsj7eJKKA

This is the 3:26.0:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyoRtYr8mdc

Notice how many people were watching. That tells you all you need to know about the popularity of distance events.

What will I do if Jager breaks the WR? I will do the same thing I did about the 1500 gold. I will do my own workout on Friday and ignore it like just about everyone else. Morris in the PV may be interesting as may Schippers vs Thompson in the 100m, and if so, I will watch the video replay on watchathletics. But a SC is not something I or just about anyone else cares about.

Yet you care enough about it to comment on how little you care about it. If you did not care at all, you wouldn't have opened the thread. Unless, you have no life to speak of...

Why are certain people always coming here to tell everybody how much they don't care about what this website is about?

Well I'm kinda into these distance events, and I think the steeplechase is pretty neat. And if Jager set the world record I for one would probably s*** my pants, jump up and down, and run out of my house screaming. The neighbors would be very confused and afterwords I'd be sad I had no one to share the excitement with, but for that one moment I would be through the roof. You got to live life with some passion, you know?

Ujay wrote:

Unless, you have no life to speak of...

That sums it when it comes to coach d(ick).

If umlautless Jager breaks the steeplechase world record I will probably be too excited, shouting at the screen and punching the air.

Depending on my level of drunkenness, I may go for a run.

Ujay wrote:

The ghost of Pat Davey wrote:

It is just "Evan Jager", there is no umlaut over the "a" in his last name. Stop writing it that way.

Any thoughts on how Jäger will perform?

I called it last year when I said Jagёr had missed his one shot at sub 8.

historian wrote:

wejo wrote:

It's got to be the highest percentage an American (not named Khalid Khannouchi) has to break a distance world record since I've followed the sport.

Wejo, rephrase in English?

Jager is the highest percentage American (100% White)

here you go wrote:

Thank you. Hopefully malmo gets this now. Jager has the ability but that race made it look like his form is going the wrong way currently.

Plus we also saw how his missed sub 8 last year was not rectified in later races.

Jager doesn't seem to go from strength to strength over a series of races.

You don't make any sense at all. YOUR opinion is that his form going the wrong way. MY opinion on his race is the same as Jager's -- “I just came up 100 meters short, which is brutal, but I’m happy with how I raced for sure,”

You guys spend way too much time looking at every race trying to read into something that's not there. If a runner runs fast, you think they should run just as fast in every race thereafter or else they're a failure, a wimp a pu$$y, etc. If a runner runs poorly, you think they're done and of course, a wimp or a pu$$y, etc... You micro-analyze every stumble, every push, every bump, every smile and every grimace, and try to attribute things to character flaws. If someone like Jager runs a fantastic race, your fetid imaginations blind you and you see something else that the rest of us didn't see.

here you go wrote:

Because it didn't seem like a strong enough race. Have you really forgotten that much about running?

Rone for example would have crushed that 5k and he never sniffed 8.

You're all over the place. What the hell does Rono have to do with Jager?

FWIW, when Rono set the WR he did it in front of 200 people in a windy, rainy day...it even hailed right before the start. No rabbits, just Rono against the wind and rain. I doubt there is any other runner in history who could have done the same. Sub 8 would have been nothing to Rono. He ran 52 races that year, all of them a joyous expression of human mobility. The 40th race of 1978 was 13:16 -- in Zurich.

Little known facts wrote:

Brahim Boulami has broken the steeplechase record twice, with times of 7:55.28 and 7:53.17.

The previous double record breaker was Moses Kiptanui with times of 8:02.08 and 7:59.18, also the first man under 8 minutes, in 1995.

Anders Gärderud broke the record on 4 occasions, with times from 8:20.8 to 8:08.2.

Boulami's second WR (faster than Shaheen's official WR) was thrown out because of doping (and his first should have been as well).

Wow. No, I just casually observed that based on seeing Jager run for a few seasons.

You got carried away a bit there.

malmo wrote:

here you go wrote:

Because it didn't seem like a strong enough race. Have you really forgotten that much about running?

Rone for example would have crushed that 5k and he never sniffed 8.

You're all over the place. What the hell does Rono have to do with Jager?

FWIW, when Rono set the WR he did it in front of 200 people in a windy, rainy day...it even hailed right before the start. No rabbits, just Rono against the wind and rain. I doubt there is any other runner in history who could have done the same. Sub 8 would have been nothing to Rono. He ran 52 races that year, all of them a joyous expression of human mobility. The 40th race of 1978 was 13:16 -- in Zurich.

Rono and Jager both run flat races and steeple.

Sounds like you are also pretty good at analysing and getting carried away with your imagination.

malmo wrote:

here you go wrote:

Because it didn't seem like a strong enough race. Have you really forgotten that much about running?

Rone for example would have crushed that 5k and he never sniffed 8.

You're all over the place. What the hell does Rono have to do with Jager?

FWIW, when Rono set the WR he did it in front of 200 people in a windy, rainy day...it even hailed right before the start. No rabbits, just Rono against the wind and rain. I doubt there is any other runner in history who could have done the same. Sub 8 would have been nothing to Rono. He ran 52 races that year, all of them a joyous expression of human mobility. The 40th race of 1978 was 13:16 -- in Zurich.

Got to agree with Malmo. Rono would be sub-8, possibly WR holder on today's tracks with good weather and rabbits. I remember Geoff Hollister saying he saw Rono ran a solo 8:1x on cinder track at altitude in Kenya, and one of the barriers was too high.

hahahahahaha yesssss

That guy... wrote:

Agreed. WTF would anyone do? I'll say, wow, a new WR. Then probably not think about it again until it's broken.

I'll race to the birds to write either "Evan MF Jager" or "Kipruto goes home DEVASTATED"... jK, I won't even know about it until either of those threads are already started.

Do I think he will? No.

Do I think he could? As crazy as it sounds, possibly.

He ran 8:00-flat last year falling down. Watching that video, I estimate that the fall cost him at least three seconds. Take out the fall and he runs 7:57 or so in what wasn't even an attempt on the record. In the shape that he was in that day in ideal conditions and a perfectly paced race, it is not absurd to think that someone who has run 7:57 could run 7:53.

Jager was better last year! He will not break 8 ever!

Personally I would cheer Evan for his achievement. LR would probably crash with so many posters creating threads asserting Jager was an "obvious doper".

Despite what Malmo says, Zurich was not a positive indicator of fitness for Jager.

He may have had a bad day but he really fell apart there, which is something that a person in world record shape would not do.

But maybe he just needed to get settled in Europe.

I do give him a fair shot at breaking 8.

As far as an American's chance at a distance world record.

The last time an American held a distance world record on the track was Sydney Maree, who had the 1500m record in 1983 for one week.

America's best chance since then was Johnny Gray who ran 1:42.6 when the record was 1:41.7.

No American has run world record pace or made any attempt outside of that for any distance race since.

Webb's 3:46 mile was never an attempt at 3:43.

So does Jager have a better shot than Webb did?

Possibly down the line. Doesn't look like it now.

Centro isn't going to break a world record.

Rupp isn't going to either.

We have to see what future Clayton Murphy has to offer as far as known runners right now.

Skips Arm Day wrote:

Why are certain people always coming here to tell everybody how much they don't care about what this website is about?

Well I'm kinda into these distance events, and I think the steeplechase is pretty neat. And if Jager set the world record I for one would probably s*** my pants, jump up and down, and run out of my house screaming. The neighbors would be very confused and afterwords I'd be sad I had no one to share the excitement with, but for that one moment I would be through the roof. You got to live life with some passion, you know?

That sums up how excited and sad I was when Centro won the 1500m in Rio. At least I was able to get the kids excited that an American won a gold medal, but I admit they were somewhat desensitized to how special that is because they are more interested in swimming.

Lenny Leonard wrote:

roberto baggio wrote:

Donavan Brazier will break the 800m world record.

Harharhar

Nope.

Kipketer, Rudisha, Brazier. Wait