Broken Back v Fractured Back wrote:
Broken Back: Spinal cord injury due to broken bone.
Fractured Back: No spinal cord injury.
Is this terminology something you just made up? Because it's not true, at all.
Broken Back v Fractured Back wrote:
Broken Back: Spinal cord injury due to broken bone.
Fractured Back: No spinal cord injury.
Is this terminology something you just made up? Because it's not true, at all.
Spotter of BSer wrote:
Broken Back v Fractured Back wrote:Broken Back: Spinal cord injury due to broken bone.
Fractured Back: No spinal cord injury.
Is this terminology something you just made up? Because it's not true, at all.
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The OP implied the rider might be dead because of the fall, and that she severed her spine. But, she is alive and the back injury is not one that makes her a paraplegic.
The OP is guilty of excessive drama. This thread should be removed.
That cyclist looked like she broke her neck/back!!1
This video is unreal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyxgToqzKR0
From a spectator on the side of the road.
rojo wrote:
This video is unreal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyxgToqzKR0From a spectator on the side of the road.
Unreal.
PROPS to the spectator for not trying to move her. The impulse is to pull someone to their feet. Props to everyone to not move her. They did everything right, IMO.
If they tried to move her too quickly she could have had more damage. (Spinal injury) Best to leave her alone until help/medics arrived unless she was not breathing. By the looks of this video, she was using accessory muscle to breath by seeing the movement of her stomach.
Seeing that cellphone video of her crash and just laying there on the curb is eerie. When I saw it on NBC, I noticed that there was one lone guy there with his cell phone videoing it. And this is the video. Yeah, props that he didn't try to move her. But how horrible. Such an awkward position to land and with such severe injuries and when you've been giving an all-out exertion for 75 miles. All the best to a full recovery for her.
where is medical? wrote:
Unbelievable how long it took to get medical help to her after she crashed.
https://www.facebook.com/marcelo.demattosgomes/videos/918206821641894/?pnref=story
Crash in the video Wejo posted a link to.
Crash at 1:43
Medics at 3:37
Less than two minutes
At least they didn't have the same crew helping her that helped that French gymnist guy who broke his leg. That was a gruesome leg break, and then the team carrying him on the stretcher DROPPED him as they were trying to put him in the ambulence. Un-freaking-believable. Compound fracture and they dropped him from the stretcher.
From her twitter account:
Annemiek van Vleuten â€@AvVleuten 41 minutes ago Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
Still in the hospital. Waiting for some research&hope I can leave today. Knowing that this chance is 1 in 4 years, doesn't make it easy.
She shore is kute.
where is medical? wrote:
Unbelievable how long it took to get medical help to her after she crashed.
https://www.facebook.com/marcelo.demattosgomes/videos/918206821641894/?pnref=story
Do you think it's possible for there to be instant medical attention for every rider that crashes at a point in the race where there is literally miles between first and last rider?
This isn't a case of a physio/doctor just running onto the pitch after an injury.
2 minutes is pretty quick.
rojo wrote:
This video is unreal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyxgToqzKR0From a spectator on the side of the road.
For the riders behind her, this must have been like passing a dead body on Everest - a warning.
Why did the guy with the camera spend all his time videoing her, instead of standing out on the road making sure incoming riders didn't approach her?
Spotter of BSer wrote:
Broken Back v Fractured Back wrote:Broken Back: Spinal cord injury due to broken bone.
Fractured Back: No spinal cord injury.
Is this terminology something you just made up? Because it's not true, at all.
You can have a back fracture without breaking your spine, idiot.
MelInColosseo wrote:
Glad she isn't irreperably injured. But this type of crash is always a risk for road racers going 100%.
Listen to what Boardman said - both before and after the mens and womens' races. There is a risk of skidding and crashing in any bike race. But normally you'd have a dirt edge and if a wheel goes off an inch there is a chance to recover, and/or the cyclist would end in the bushes. In this case, there was a foot-deep hole and a concrete wall behind it, just about guaranteeing a hugely dangerous crash.
Given the huge cost of the Games, you would think they could have filled the trench and put netting or something on the steepest downhill bends.
eurodonkey wrote: Listen to what Boardman said - both before and after the mens and womens' races. There is a risk of skidding and crashing in any bike race. But normally you'd have a dirt edge and if a wheel goes off an inch there is a chance to recover, and/or the cyclist would end in the bushes. In this case, there was a foot-deep hole and a concrete wall behind it, just about guaranteeing a hugely dangerous crash.
Given the huge cost of the Games, you would think they could have filled the trench and put netting or something on the steepest downhill bends.
Dude, I agree with your/Boardman's points.. F1 is a parade of narcissistic wannabes but the safety protocols, track furniture and design, and energy management analyses have improved survivability greatly in a very dangerous sport. Watch Rush and see for yourself if you're too young to remember Niki Lauda for real.
In commercial aviation, these aspects have been considered for decades. Survivability is enhanced by systemic co-design for risk reduction, not only by high-viz specific technical improvements.
The Rio bike road course was clearly not subject to any such analysis and improvement. No skull- or spinal-severing kerbs should be in place in high-likelihood, high-energy rider-bike separation/tumble situations... like the geometry of that downhill curve.
Like all sports, if actual athletes were responsible for design validation, we'd have a lot fewer of these events.
MelGibboInColosseo wrote:
eurodonkey wrote: Listen to what Boardman said - both before and after the mens and womens' races. There is a risk of skidding and crashing in any bike race. But normally you'd have a dirt edge and if a wheel goes off an inch there is a chance to recover, and/or the cyclist would end in the bushes. In this case, there was a foot-deep hole and a concrete wall behind it, just about guaranteeing a hugely dangerous crash.Given the huge cost of the Games, you would think they could have filled the trench and put netting or something on the steepest downhill bends.
Dude, I agree with your/Boardman's points.. F1 is a parade of narcissistic wannabes but the safety protocols, track furniture and design, and energy management analyses have improved survivability greatly in a very dangerous sport. Watch Rush and see for yourself if you're too young to remember Niki Lauda for real.
In commercial aviation, these aspects have been considered for decades. Survivability is enhanced by systemic co-design for risk reduction, not only by high-viz specific technical improvements.
The Rio bike road course was clearly not subject to any such analysis and improvement. No skull- or spinal-severing kerbs should be in place in high-likelihood, high-energy rider-bike separation/tumble situations... like the geometry of that downhill curve.
Like all sports, if actual athletes were responsible for design validation, we'd have a lot fewer of these events.
Be realistic. Brazil is third world dump. Period. Look at the majority of the population. Go to LiveLeak.com and look at the number of videos featuring armed killers shooting left and right lol. Stop applying European or E. Asian logic and values to a population that is majority ...neither. lol
nope,, wrote:
Spotter of BSer wrote:Is this terminology something you just made up? Because it's not true, at all.
You can have a back fracture without breaking your spine, idiot.
You should be nicer. Did your mom not throw some slop down into the basement for you to feed on while you troll?
The initial reports yesterday did say that she had "slight fracture to the spine." That was probably a direct translation from a hospital report, and the nuance between spinal cord and vertebrae was not differentiated. So eat your slop that mom fixed for you and give the poster a break.
From the news this morning:
Concussion and three small fractures to the vertebrae in the lumbar region.