Official 2016 World Live Pole Vault Discussion Thread

In The Rio window

1 Jenn Suhr USA 5.03 Brockport NY (USA) 30.01.2016 Q

2 Sandi Morris USA 4.95 Portland OR (USA) 12.03.2016 Q

3 Yarisley Silva CUB 4.91 Beckum (GER) 02.08.2015 Q

4 Ekateríni Stefanídi GRE 4.90 New York NY (USA) 20.02.2016 Q

4 Demi Payne USA 4.90 New York NY (USA) 20.02.2016 Q

6 Fabiana Murer BRA 4.85 Beijing (CHN) 26.08.2015 Q

7 Nikoléta Kiriakopoúlou GRE 4.83 Saint-Denis (FRA) 04.07.2015 Q

8 Eliza McCartney NZL 4.80 Dunedin (NZL) 05.03.2016 Q

9 Alana Boyd AUS 4.77 Sippy Downs (AUS) 28.01.2016 Q

10 Silke Spiegelburg GER 4.75 Cheboksary (RUS) 20.06.2015 Q

10 Nicole Büchler SUI 4.75 Bad Oeynhausen (GER) 04.03.2016 Q

She's jumping with the big girls.

WiT wrote:

In The Rio window

1 Jenn Suhr USA 5.03 Brockport NY (USA) 30.01.2016 Q

2 Sandi Morris USA 4.95 Portland OR (USA) 12.03.2016 Q

3 Yarisley Silva CUB 4.91 Beckum (GER) 02.08.2015 Q

4 Ekateríni Stefanídi GRE 4.90 New York NY (USA) 20.02.2016 Q

4 Demi Payne USA 4.90 New York NY (USA) 20.02.2016 Q

6 Fabiana Murer BRA 4.85 Beijing (CHN) 26.08.2015 Q

7 Nikoléta Kiriakopoúlou GRE 4.83 Saint-Denis (FRA) 04.07.2015 Q

8 Eliza McCartney NZL 4.80 Dunedin (NZL) 05.03.2016 Q

9 Alana Boyd AUS 4.77 Sippy Downs (AUS) 28.01.2016 Q

10 Silke Spiegelburg GER 4.75 Cheboksary (RUS) 20.06.2015 Q

10 Nicole Büchler SUI 4.75 Bad Oeynhausen (GER) 04.03.2016 Q

She's jumping with the big girls.

oops

rojo wrote:

[quote]no wonder our sport isn't popu wrote:

The last thing she should do is get hurt trying to get a WR - that would be the equivalent of a footballer blowing out his knee in a TD celebration.

Footballers score goals, not TDs. You're thinking of a "football player."

She probably wants Olympic gold a lot more than the WR, so she's smartly playing it safe.

The women were epic and Sam Kendricks did great. Jenn Suhr and Renaud Lavillenie were equally impressive in winning gold. Kendricks was right there but I think he PRed at 5.91 last week in winning the U.S. Championship and as easy as the Frenchmen's jump over 5.90 looked, Sam would probably have had to PR again to win Gold. Hard to do just a few days apart.

Floyd Pink wrote:

The women were epic and Sam Kendricks did great. Jenn Suhr and Renaud Lavillenie were equally impressive in winning gold. Kendricks was right there but I think he PRed at 5.91 last week in winning the U.S. Championship and as easy as the Frenchmen's jump over 5.90 looked, Sam would probably have had to PR again to win Gold. Hard to do just a few days apart.

I looked back and Kendricks PRed at 5.90 last week. With his misses, he would definitely have had to PR again to win Gold.

I wonder if the american women would have swept the medals if Demi Payne had been allowed to compete

roper wrote:

I wonder if the american women would have swept the medals if Demi Payne had been allowed to compete

Probably. It's a shame that the men's pole vault got a wild card and the women's didn't. Even dipping way below the standard, the IAAF couldn't fill the field.

runnerdnerd wrote:

not a pole vault regular wrote:

So they just said that Greece's Ekaterini Stefanidi went to Stanford. How smart must she have been to gotten into Stanford while being Greek, with English as a second langauge. Very impressive.

Back when toby was coaching there. That's why he left stanford, to move to Greece with her after she graduated.

lol what? Toby married a Swedish girl and moved to Sweden for a bit. Katerina never moved back to Greece, she went on to grad school at Arizona State and still lives and trains in the US.

wejo wrote:

I was disappointed she didn't go for the World Record.

She said this was a quick turnaround from USAs and her calf was tight.

The sport would be slightly better off if world records were set at a meet like this instead of a tiny meet with no one watching.

Do Pole Vaults usually last 3 hours? We're 2+ hours in and the men have a ways to go.

The atmosphere has left this place but we're at the 2 hour mark. Fans could have gone to a Timbers game and watched the whole thing and be leaving now.

Looks like some people may have even left. The arena wasn't completely full so I can't say for sure.

No... this dragged on longer than necessary. I'll copy and paste what I wrote on Track & Field News...

The format (one jump for women, one jump for men) assumes that the two fields are equal sizes of 12 (which they should have been). But they weren't...

The men started with 14, all but maybe two of whom who had jumped 5.77 this indoor season and all had achieved the standard within the window. The women started with 10, 2 of whom were below the 4.71 standard and would likely be exiting early. Then Boyd got hurt in warmups and DNS so you were at 9 and 14... and really 7 and 14 if you take out the lower women.

So what would have helped, is to have the men take 2 jumps for every 1 of the women... especially if one of the men made the bar and it didn't need to be reset. The women had such a small field at every height, that a little extra time between jumps would not have hurt them, but the men were definitely impacted by the extra wait between attempts.

I wouldn't say it was the reason Barber did poorly, but it didn't help him, or any of the other men, that they had such a long wait between attempts. But that's also life at the elite level sometimes... Kendricks and Lavillenie rose above it.

From my standpoint, it would have been nice if they finished around the same time, because the women came through the mixed zone while the men were still competing.

Overall the whole experience was awesome, it's great to see the IAAF willing to try something a little different. It was nice that the high school kids got to sit on the track to watch. The music wasn't everyone's taste, but if you want to market to a younger crowd, that high energy music tends to be the way to go.

It was wonderful for the vaulters to have the full attention of the fans and the media. Obviously pole vault always gets my full attention, but I think for most, in a major track meet, they don't really pay much attention until the final bars and miss a lot of the exciting back and forth.

PVP thanks agree 100%

and no need for announcers can follow it perfectly well

kept a screen with the live results page open so could click and see the Xs and Os chart

gdm wrote:

rojo wrote:

[quote]no wonder our sport isn't popu wrote:

The last thing she should do is get hurt trying to get a WR - that would be the equivalent of a footballer blowing out his knee in a TD celebration.

Footballers score goals, not TDs. You're thinking of a "football player."

She probably wants Olympic gold a lot more than the WR, so she's smartly playing it safe.

You mean soccer players. The correct term.

wejo wrote:

I wonder what a vaulter would say to be insightful instead of "he missed, she made it".

Sandi Morris did clear her first height on her first attempt.

Sam Kendricks made his with ease.

I try to describe if it was close or not, but it does get tedious to try and describe 100 jumps that were similar, especially on Twitter with 144 characters and trying to pace myself to stay out of Twitter jail...

Bad Wigins wrote:

Lisek is previously banned doper

I thought you were getting confused with Filippidis, but I see that you are correct. Lisek wasn't a very good vaulter when he got busted, totally off my radar.

Agree. Poor form not going for WR.

The real question is will Ashton go for the WR in Rio?

That's the reason Bruce made Wheaties and Ashton didn't.

Ashton will be a legend if he breaks WR.

He'll be just another gold medalist, if he stops vaulting like Suhr did last night. What's his plan in RIO?

yes, know he has WR already.

BUT.. it needs to be done on the largest stage. The Olympics! Or world indoors.

WRs ARE exciting wrote:

Agree. Poor form not going for WR.

They made it clear since last fall that Rio was the priority. They weren't even planning on doing USATF indoors/Worlds. I'm not surprised she stopped.