So Mazaheir and Cotton are already faster than anyone was last year? Is Mazaheri better at track than xc? Or did he just peak late? Or is Lamere going to run 13:50 this season?
This is going to be nuts.
So Mazaheir and Cotton are already faster than anyone was last year? Is Mazaheri better at track than xc? Or did he just peak late? Or is Lamere going to run 13:50 this season?
This is going to be nuts.
Cotton ran faster than the winner of DIII nationals in 2015, as well as ran under the NESCAC Championship record.
Flat like beer wrote:
So Mazaheir and Cotton are already faster than anyone was last year? Is Mazaheri better at track than xc? Or did he just peak late? Or is Lamere going to run 13:50 this season?
This is going to be nuts.
How about Mazaheri came out of XC super strong and fresh. Not a bad thing to race now, then put in a solid 45-50 days of training before indoor conference. I am not an east coast guy, but hard to doubt how things are done at Williams.
Flat like beer wrote:
So Mazaheir and Cotton are already faster than anyone was last year? Is Mazaheri better at track than xc? Or did he just peak late? Or is Lamere going to run 13:50 this season?
This is going to be nuts.
You would be surprised if he ran 13:50? After his cross season I'd expect it.
As for Bijan, he had LaMere on the ropes in the 10k last spring before losing by less than 1/100th of a second. At cross nationals this fall he lost by a little more. So yeah, he's better at track.
Or LaMere just imporved a ton this year, and Bijan has gotten just slightly better. Lets not forget Bijan was close to Tiernan at Paul Short, so I'd say he's pretty good at cross.
Bijan just ran his PR 2 weeks after his peak on a crappy flat track. Do you know how effing hard it is to reset like that after a hard cross country season? Is that just "slightly better" than last year?
I think Bijan, Cotton, and Lamere will all break 14 minutes in the 5k this season. Bijan and Cotton will do it at BU, Lamere will do it on a flat track (he will be ~13:50 shape, so he should be able to do it on a normal track).
Thorson and Campbell will be there with them at nationals, but they lack access to meets and tracks like BU valentine.
The division 3 scene is definitely strong this year, but I think ya'll are being a bit ambitious with all this sub 14 talk. I would be very surprised to see anyone but Lamere break 14 indoors or outdoors this year.
That being said, the 5k at indoor nats this year should be very entertaining. If Thorson opts for the 5k/3k double, I'd call it a toss up between him, Lamere, Campbell, Bijan, and Cotton. Tactics favor Thorson and Campbell, but Lamere is always up for taking it out hot.
3 Ds wrote:
Bijan just ran his PR 2 weeks after his peak on a crappy flat track. Do you know how effing hard it is to reset like that after a hard cross country season? Is that just "slightly better" than last year?
A peak lasts more than one week. Bijan was still on his last weekend. It's not like he took the week after nationals off, then trained for a week and ran his 5K. He extended his season by two weeks and took advantage of his peak fitness by running one more race.
Really? He probably started his peak for regionals and then ran nationals. He could have squeezed a great race in a week after, which is the tail end of the peak, and that would be tough. 2 weeks after the peak though, yeah right, I'd like to see you do that.
For reference, Bijan did the same thing Sophomore year. Ran 15:01 at Smith, after prolonging his peak from nationals, and ended up running 14:41 that season. Do I think he will drop 20 seconds? Probably not, but it shows that when he is peaking for the 5k late in the season he could get under 14:10 easily.
Looking ahead to outdoor...who is going to win the steeple? With Dawson Miller leaving it seems kinda wide open. Will Nick Boyce from Wabash be using his eligibility? He would be the top returner if so
Beware of Jordan "Biggest Douche of the WIAC" Carpenter. Took a year off last year in track.
I love how that Carpenter kid who took home the elite 90 award is taking a 5th year, I laughed even harder when they gave him the damn award in track over some kid from MIT because he accumulated more credits.
No way Carpenter will win any nationals titles this year
uh uh wrote:
No way Carpenter will win any nationals titles this year
yeah but have you seen his girlfriend? He can go home sad and be happy in 10 seconds!
Dat Face Doe wrote:
yeah but have you seen his girlfriend? He can go home sad and be happy in 10 seconds!
Girls are a major distraction for good running boys. They need to learn early on that it is essential to leave the girls OUT and let the coach IN.
Boyce won't be back, but his former teammate Adam Togami is.
I'm going to list 9 names.
Lamere, Cotton, Mazaheri, Thorson, Campbell, Hussein, Plank, Horner, Marquardt. Each one of these guys js an absolute stud. Lamere, Thorson, Campbell are national champions. Cotton, Mazaheri, and Marquardt have been runners up. Hussein and Horner are multiple time all Americans who have consistently run with these guys (Horner doubled 3rd, 5th in the 5k, 10k last year and Hussein beat Mazaheri for a whole cross country season).
You can also add Paul Esher in if we are talking about the mile, because he has won that twice.
So now, when you bring up no-name guys as if they are relevant, I really don't know what the heck you are talking about. Are you joking? Or are you just delusional. Because there are 9-10 guys who are on another level who are all going to contend to win nationals, and 1-2 of them are not even going to be all American.
I's just tradition in these threads to hype up average teammates
The elite 9. wrote:
I'm going to list 9 names.
Lamere, Cotton, Mazaheri, Thorson, Campbell, Hussein, Plank, Horner, Marquardt. Each one of these guys js an absolute stud. Lamere, Thorson, Campbell are national champions. Cotton, Mazaheri, and Marquardt have been runners up. Hussein and Horner are multiple time all Americans who have consistently run with these guys (Horner doubled 3rd, 5th in the 5k, 10k last year and Hussein beat Mazaheri for a whole cross country season).
You can also add Paul Esher in if we are talking about the mile, because he has won that twice.
So now, when you bring up no-name guys as if they are relevant, I really don't know what the heck you are talking about. Are you joking? Or are you just delusional. Because there are 9-10 guys who are on another level who are all going to contend to win nationals, and 1-2 of them are not even going to be all American.
Mazaheri ran 15:20...lets hope thats because he was hungover. I would guess it was a slow course but a 50 year old ran 16:07....
starting the year off right wrote:
https://my.racewire.com/results/32168Mazaheri ran 15:20...lets hope thats because he was hungover. I would guess it was a slow course but a 50 year old ran 16:07....
It's called.....a tempo. Commonly used training method amongst various levels of coaching.