Even with a just okay performance, Team USA wins the medal count (if you value every medal the same), but is second to Jamaica and Kenya in terms of golds (7, 7, 6)
If you value golds at 3 points, silver at 2, bronze at 1, USA wins the medal count.
Even if you value golds at 4, silver at 2, bronze at 1, USA wins the medal count.
USA always trying to change the count to suit them. At the Beijing Olympics, the whole world was going with the usual method and China won the overall table with more Gold than USA. But American networks were having none of it and decided to county every medal equally regardless of colour.
Go to the official IAAF site and there's no changing the fact that Kenya finished first, Jamaica second and USA third.
Also worth noting is Alysson Felix and the men's 4X400m won team USA's only golds on the track. That is something to think about.
Renato Canova wrote:
One world for you :
IDIOT
We all know that drugs don't work in top Kenyans. Renato and other Italian dottores must know it firsthand.
USA 18
Kenya 16
(in worst US performance in history)
better luck in rio...usa will beat kenya by ten in rio, not two
Mighty super power USA is on the wane, Mike. Just like Russia. Kenya and Jamaica are encroaching fast and when both countries have access to the same training facilities and infrastructure it will be game over.
El Keniano wrote:
Mighty super power USA is on the wane, Mike. Just like Russia. Kenya and Jamaica are encroaching fast and when both countries have access to the same training facilities and infrastructure it will be game over.
Considering that they already have the best conditions for all-year round doping, the possible impact of training facilities and infrastructure would be relatively negligible.
Sports Physiologist wrote:
Considering that they already have the best conditions for all-year round doping, the possible impact of training facilities and infrastructure would be relatively negligible.
American bitterness at its worst. Shameless Americans continue to put known dopers on their teams. American relays teams are chock full of known dopers. You will never see Kenya putting a known doper on their teams.
amusing at an american boasting about beating kenya in medals, points. the united states sends probably thousands of mostly average athletes to events just to shore up points. a country with stupendous wealth and technological advantages struggling to beat poor kenya. lol.
El Keniano wrote:
USA always trying to change the count to suit them. At the Beijing Olympics, the whole world was going with the usual method and China won the overall table with more Gold than USA. But American networks were having none of it and decided to county every medal equally regardless of colour.
Go to the official IAAF site and there's no changing the fact that Kenya finished first, Jamaica second and USA third.
Also worth noting is Alysson Felix and the men's 4X400m won team USA's only golds on the track. That is something to think about.
You're right, golds should count for more. But, other medals shouldn't count for anything? I mean, the name of the created "competition" is "the medal count" not the "gold medal count." If a country wins 2 golds, 7 silver and 7 bronze, that's worse than a country that just wins 3 golds, or exactly the same as a country that just wins 2 golds?
if kenya loses in medals next year in rio, you need to come on here and apologize for prematurely annointing kenya the new WORLD TRACK POWER...the usa track program has been the best in the world for decades and decades...in the 20s and 30s it was britain who challenged...in the 50s and 60s the ussr...in the 70s and 80s it was east germany....in the 90s canada...and then jamaica and kenya...the us has its ups and downs...but always bounces back....so maybe tap the brakes on the imminent and total collapse of american track and field..
when you have a few minutes go look up medal totals and gold totals all-time...pretty nice track record for the us of a
funny you said 'bitterness'...america is used to bitterness from haters...for its prosperity...its military might...its sports success...nothing new...
you mentioned dopers...did you know that over 20 countries have busted dopers...you act like america is the only one - that makes you sound stupid/uninformed
D-Nice wrote:
Even with a just okay performance, Team USA wins the medal count (if you value every medal the same)...
WFT would you do this for? In a track meet does third place earn the same points as first?
Medal Count, USA style wrote:
D-Nice wrote:Even with a just okay performance, Team USA wins the medal count (if you value every medal the same)...
WFT would you do this for? In a track meet does third place earn the same points as first?
Read the rest of the post, duh.
El Keniano wrote:
We're coming for the field events, sprints and hurdles next.
The KENYAN HURDLERS already got the hurdles
They'll easily get the HJ if they treat it like a big hurdle
El Keniano wrote:
USA always trying to change the count to suit them. At the Beijing Olympics, the whole world was going with the usual method and China won the overall table with more Gold than USA. But American networks were having none of it and decided to county every medal equally regardless of colour.
Go to the official IAAF site and there's no changing the fact that Kenya finished first, Jamaica second and USA third.
That's true, and nobody can deny the great performances logged by the athletes from Kenya and Jamaica throughout the competition. But it is also true that the USA team finished with the most medals overall, and if you want to utilize the official IAAF web site as your reference, you will notice that their weighted placing table shows the USA team in first place:
http://www.iaaf.org/Competitions/iaaf-world-championships/15th-iaaf-world-championships-4875/placingtableHow so typically American of you to come up with that. No one cares about placings based on points for the first eight finishers in each event. In fact, this is the first I\'ve had of it. Still, the richest country in the world with, by far, the largest team, should win such a scoring system easily.
So incase you missed it, here\'s a tweet by Kenya\'s president Uhuru Kenyatta of the actual medal table that shows Kenya on top:
https://twitter.com/presidentke/status/637969941350752257
And here\'s another tweet by him celebrating all 16 medalists:
https://twitter.com/presidentke/status/637999110277234688
This kind of appreciation will only fire up the future generation of world-beaters.
It's called "the medal count." It's not called "the gold medal count." So, the norm is to count medals. However, if you compare this to a diamond league race, the only thing anyone really cares about is the victory, so if they weren't giving out the consolation prizes in championships, only the golds would count. But, of course, they do give out the consolation prizes in championships and we all value silvers and bronzes quite highly, just not as much as golds.
jjjjjj wrote:
It's called "the medal count." It's not called "the gold medal count." So, the norm is to count medals.
A medal count? Who calls it that? It's called a medal table and this is what it looks like:
https://twitter.com/iaaforg/status/637972471237357568NativeSon wrote:
El Keniano wrote:The fight to top the medal table is turning out to be quite a nail biter. A three way dash for the finish with Kenya, Jamaica and USA the only countries with double digits medals. One of these three countries wins two golds tomorrow, they win overall. Who's chances do you like?
RANK COUNTRY TOTAL
1 KENYA 6- 4- 3 = 13
2 JAMAICA 6- 2- 3 = 11
3 UNITED STATES 5- 5- 6 = 16
4 GREAT BRITAIN & N.I. 4- 1- 0 = 5
5 POLAND 3- 1- 4 = 8
6 RUSSIA 2- 1- 1 = 4
7 CUBA 2- 1- 0 = 3
8 PR OF CHINA 1- 5- 1 = 7
9 CANADA 1- 3- 3 = 7
9 GERMANY 1- 3- 3 = 7
11 ETHIOPIA 1- 2- 1 = 4
12 NETHERLANDS 1- 1- 1 = 3
Kenya will win 7 gold medals and have the most medals.
US will be second with 7 gold but fewer overall medals by 1.
Now, the US could mess up the baton handing over. I know it is the 4x400 but come on guys, thi sis the United States of America and botched relays.
America,
That ship of topping the medal table has sailed.
Kenya had a great week in office.
Everyone I've talked to is elated.
I can't wait for the Olympics.
skewered wrote:
Jamaica is skewed by a few big stars. Take away Bolt and SAFP and their medal count plummets, esp gold. Probably 5 less golds.
JUst because your pop is 20x of Jamaica does not mean you have 20 undiscovered Bolts.
Considering that most of the best athletes in the US play basketball, football, baseball, soccer, tennis, etc it is entirely possible that we have 20 undiscovered "Bolts" busy excelling in other sports, though unlikely. I would say we definitely have some.
Did you see the story of Earl Manigault? The 6'1" basketball player who could touch the top of the backboard and two hand dunk from the free through line in the 1950's. What could he have done in the high jump or long jump or maybe even the sprints? We'll never know. He wouldn't do track events.
How many phenomenal athletes do we see in other sports that look like they could excel in track and field?
In Jamaica, Kenya, and Ethiopia running is the national sport so the best athletes will be identified and they will stick with it. Not so in the US. Comparing the populations of the countries is an interesting stat but it doesn't tell the whole story.